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akmx17 wrote:
I only made it through page 2. I see everyones point, from why its wrong and P's point. [b]The real point is the video is 9...
I only made it through page 2.
I see everyones point, from why its wrong and P's point.
The real point is the video is 9 years old.
People make mistakes.
Jay-Z was brought up in a not so good place and I am sure he has made more then he can count.

IF you really hate this guy so much then start getting around the rap media, and join the Game as he is starting beef with Jay-Z.

Had P said that it was a mistake, but, it was 9 years ago from a guy that came from a rough background, it would have been a different discussion.

Per P's response, it makes no difference when it was. It's just horsing around.
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No all P is saying that J says he was just horsing around.
You know what it might of been I highly doubt it.
But if it really was horseplay, its easy to say how you guys would blow it way out of proportion, like now seeing how the video is 9-10 years old.
And you guys are stabbing him like it happened yesterday
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7/20/2009 3:46pm
akmx17 wrote:
I only made it through page 2. I see everyones point, from why its wrong and P's point. [b]The real point is the video is 9...
I only made it through page 2.
I see everyones point, from why its wrong and P's point.
The real point is the video is 9 years old.
People make mistakes.
Jay-Z was brought up in a not so good place and I am sure he has made more then he can count.

IF you really hate this guy so much then start getting around the rap media, and join the Game as he is starting beef with Jay-Z.

Is that a Metal Mulisha sign he's throwing?
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7/20/2009 4:09pm
akmx17 wrote:
No all P is saying that J says he was just horsing around. You know what it might of been I highly doubt it. But if...
No all P is saying that J says he was just horsing around.
You know what it might of been I highly doubt it.
But if it really was horseplay, its easy to say how you guys would blow it way out of proportion, like now seeing how the video is 9-10 years old.
And you guys are stabbing him like it happened yesterday
I would even accept that, as wrong as it is and looks, but P preferred to bring in the racial issues with saying it's because he comes from a "diverse background" trying to make it into a cultural issue and continuing that plan of defense by stating:

P wrote: Dave, like I said some of you aren't diverse enough to relate and I don't really expect you to understand. I can relate.

I'm not "diverse enough" to understand that smacking a woman around is acceptable.

He continues his "cultural diversity" spin and excuses by asking me:

P wrote: It's not about your race Dave.

How many hustlers from the hood do you know?

How many hustlers from the hood of say NY or Baltimore do you know?

How many chick hustlers from the hood of say NY or Baltimore do you know?


P


If he had said, "It's a friend of his, he was fucking around and it was ten years ago" and left it at that, this would've been long done

That is why I suggested SEVERAL TIMES to "walk away"
He chose to keep going and try to defend a stupid act by using race and "cultural diversity" as an excuse for a man manhandling a woman

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I want to fight Lenny's wife. I think I can taker her.
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crowe176 wrote:
I want to fight Lenny's wife. I think I can taker her.
you would get icepicked before you could even get started!
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Really funny how they were "playing" yet not a damn person is smiling. Pick your battles P, you cant win this one, no one is gonna...
Really funny how they were "playing" yet not a damn person is smiling. Pick your battles P, you cant win this one, no one is gonna believe the BS spin you put on this
P wrote:
Look at Loon to Jay-Z's left and the body guard is just about to smerk as he looks over Jay-Z's shoulder.


P
my mistake, you are right, the one guy is smiling
Bullshit,

That bodyguard on JayZs left is moving forward to see if she is going to hit back.
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Excellent for those wishing to live the wigger lifestyle.
P wrote:
"Wigger lifestyle"? What exactly is that?


P
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Skinny white kids who wear their pants down around their knees, spin their hats sideways, flail their arms around like Joe Cocker, butcher the english language...
Skinny white kids who wear their pants down around their knees, spin their hats sideways, flail their arms around like Joe Cocker, butcher the english language when they speak, ride around in POS rice burners with 1,000,000 watts of base rattling the fasteners out of it, who turn into limp puddles of pussy goo when confronted...Those guys.
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Can you really blame Michael for the bleaching?
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If he carried a concealed weapon he could have popped that biatch instead.
No she could have popped a cap in him.

lol
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jmar wrote:
He's a piece of shit and a very bad role model for young African Americans.

Void Main wrote:
What sort of role model is he for young White Americans?
Come on void,

Quit stirring the shit. If you don't realize that people like JayZ are role models for young African Americans then you are either stupid or blind.

Which is it, stupid, blind or just stirring the shit?
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7/20/2009 5:43pm
akmx17 wrote:
I only made it through page 2. I see everyones point, from why its wrong and P's point. [b]The real point is the video is 9...
I only made it through page 2.
I see everyones point, from why its wrong and P's point.
The real point is the video is 9 years old.
People make mistakes.
Jay-Z was brought up in a not so good place and I am sure he has made more then he can count.

IF you really hate this guy so much then start getting around the rap media, and join the Game as he is starting beef with Jay-Z.

I think you missed "the point" , maybe you should read a few more pages. Don't feel too bad about it, you are not alone.

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ProMed wrote:
Can you really blame Michael for the bleaching?
With Lenny and P, No. I'd want to look like a white thing too.
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I feel dumber for having read this thread. P and BL need to seriously rethink some shit. And P needs to be dick slapped for having...
I feel dumber for having read this thread. P and BL need to seriously rethink some shit. And P needs to be dick slapped for having the nerve to reply to this the way he has. This is the shit that has society fucked up as a whole.Sad
You know, normally I would lay into those two pukes, but you guys are doing a fine job so carry on.Wink
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7/20/2009 6:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:00am
P wrote:
"Wigger lifestyle"? What exactly is that?


P
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Skinny white kids who wear their pants down around their knees, spin their hats sideways, flail their arms around like Joe Cocker, butcher the english language...
Skinny white kids who wear their pants down around their knees, spin their hats sideways, flail their arms around like Joe Cocker, butcher the english language when they speak, ride around in POS rice burners with 1,000,000 watts of base rattling the fasteners out of it, who turn into limp puddles of pussy goo when confronted...Those guys.
Dogger wrote:
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Half of these cats are whiter than Wayne Brady....




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I've yet to see a black man P and Lenny could not defend.
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Jay Z is a punk and that bitch Beyonce should be ashamed to be seen with him after a video like this.
The funniest part of all this for me, is that the only time I actually saw Jay Z in person he was having dinner at Nobu in NYC with his gal and Martha Stewart.

Real Street Cred there.
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7/20/2009 8:37pm
akmx17 wrote:
No all P is saying that J says he was just horsing around. You know what it might of been I highly doubt it. But if...
No all P is saying that J says he was just horsing around.
You know what it might of been I highly doubt it.
But if it really was horseplay, its easy to say how you guys would blow it way out of proportion, like now seeing how the video is 9-10 years old.
And you guys are stabbing him like it happened yesterday
flarider wrote:
I would even accept that, as wrong as it is and looks, but P preferred to bring in the racial issues with saying it's because he...
I would even accept that, as wrong as it is and looks, but P preferred to bring in the racial issues with saying it's because he comes from a "diverse background" trying to make it into a cultural issue and continuing that plan of defense by stating:

P wrote: Dave, like I said some of you aren't diverse enough to relate and I don't really expect you to understand. I can relate.

I'm not "diverse enough" to understand that smacking a woman around is acceptable.

He continues his "cultural diversity" spin and excuses by asking me:

P wrote: It's not about your race Dave.

How many hustlers from the hood do you know?

How many hustlers from the hood of say NY or Baltimore do you know?

How many chick hustlers from the hood of say NY or Baltimore do you know?


P


If he had said, "It's a friend of his, he was fucking around and it was ten years ago" and left it at that, this would've been long done

That is why I suggested SEVERAL TIMES to "walk away"
He chose to keep going and try to defend a stupid act by using race and "cultural diversity" as an excuse for a man manhandling a woman

No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue, I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had experience with people from that background (meaning hustlers).

Don't make it a race thing.

Dave just admit that you have no experience with people that run in that culture.


P
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akmx17 wrote:
No all P is saying that J says he was just horsing around. You know what it might of been I highly doubt it. But if...
No all P is saying that J says he was just horsing around.
You know what it might of been I highly doubt it.
But if it really was horseplay, its easy to say how you guys would blow it way out of proportion, like now seeing how the video is 9-10 years old.
And you guys are stabbing him like it happened yesterday
flarider wrote:
I would even accept that, as wrong as it is and looks, but P preferred to bring in the racial issues with saying it's because he...
I would even accept that, as wrong as it is and looks, but P preferred to bring in the racial issues with saying it's because he comes from a "diverse background" trying to make it into a cultural issue and continuing that plan of defense by stating:

P wrote: Dave, like I said some of you aren't diverse enough to relate and I don't really expect you to understand. I can relate.

I'm not "diverse enough" to understand that smacking a woman around is acceptable.

He continues his "cultural diversity" spin and excuses by asking me:

P wrote: It's not about your race Dave.

How many hustlers from the hood do you know?

How many hustlers from the hood of say NY or Baltimore do you know?

How many chick hustlers from the hood of say NY or Baltimore do you know?


P


If he had said, "It's a friend of his, he was fucking around and it was ten years ago" and left it at that, this would've been long done

That is why I suggested SEVERAL TIMES to "walk away"
He chose to keep going and try to defend a stupid act by using race and "cultural diversity" as an excuse for a man manhandling a woman

P wrote:
[u]No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue[/u], I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had...
No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue, I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had experience with people from that background (meaning hustlers).

Don't make it a race thing.

Dave just admit that you have no experience with people that run in that culture.


P
I've been around the hoods.
I've hung with some of the nasties on the South side of Chicago and seen the guns laid out on the tables during discussions.

w3rd.

They all said "anyone who does that is a punk bitch, he get shot."

You're wrong P. Or you don't have any experience yourself.
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7/20/2009 9:39pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:01am
flarider wrote:
I would even accept that, as wrong as it is and looks, but P preferred to bring in the racial issues with saying it's because he...
I would even accept that, as wrong as it is and looks, but P preferred to bring in the racial issues with saying it's because he comes from a "diverse background" trying to make it into a cultural issue and continuing that plan of defense by stating:

P wrote: Dave, like I said some of you aren't diverse enough to relate and I don't really expect you to understand. I can relate.

I'm not "diverse enough" to understand that smacking a woman around is acceptable.

He continues his "cultural diversity" spin and excuses by asking me:

P wrote: It's not about your race Dave.

How many hustlers from the hood do you know?

How many hustlers from the hood of say NY or Baltimore do you know?

How many chick hustlers from the hood of say NY or Baltimore do you know?


P


If he had said, "It's a friend of his, he was fucking around and it was ten years ago" and left it at that, this would've been long done

That is why I suggested SEVERAL TIMES to "walk away"
He chose to keep going and try to defend a stupid act by using race and "cultural diversity" as an excuse for a man manhandling a woman

P wrote:
[u]No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue[/u], I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had...
No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue, I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had experience with people from that background (meaning hustlers).

Don't make it a race thing.

Dave just admit that you have no experience with people that run in that culture.


P
I've been around the hoods. I've hung with some of the nasties on the South side of Chicago and seen the guns laid out on the...
I've been around the hoods.
I've hung with some of the nasties on the South side of Chicago and seen the guns laid out on the tables during discussions.

w3rd.

They all said "anyone who does that is a punk bitch, he get shot."

You're wrong P. Or you don't have any experience yourself.
So you showed them the vid and let them read the response from Jay-Z's represenative? I doubt it.

I know horseplay and that was horseplay. Like I said, if you want to see a guy hit a chick look at the Gucci Mane vid., that's hitting a chick.

P
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7/20/2009 10:30pm
A lot of self righteous dudes in here... Ready to condemn someone for what you saw on a 2 second loop? Video editing is very powerful.

Is he rough? Appears that way but he didn't punch here, imo. But, it is also just a 2 second loop. No one could tell from that clip what was really happening.

So now that we know everyone's ideals, can we move this to the dumbgeon? Seriously? 7 pages?
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7/20/2009 10:42pm
Just look at his face expression as he does it!

He is not playing around. He is pissed.

Loser!
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P wrote:
[u]No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue[/u], I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had...
No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue, I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had experience with people from that background (meaning hustlers).

Don't make it a race thing.

Dave just admit that you have no experience with people that run in that culture.


P
I've been around the hoods. I've hung with some of the nasties on the South side of Chicago and seen the guns laid out on the...
I've been around the hoods.
I've hung with some of the nasties on the South side of Chicago and seen the guns laid out on the tables during discussions.

w3rd.

They all said "anyone who does that is a punk bitch, he get shot."

You're wrong P. Or you don't have any experience yourself.
P wrote:
So you showed them the vid and let them read the response from Jay-Z's represenative? I doubt it. I know horseplay and that was horseplay. Like...
So you showed them the vid and let them read the response from Jay-Z's represenative? I doubt it.

I know horseplay and that was horseplay. Like I said, if you want to see a guy hit a chick look at the Gucci Mane vid., that's hitting a chick.

P
Doesn't matter if they saw the vid or not...
you were saying people with 'experience' in that culture would see it differently - I'm telling you I've been there, and they don't.

You were trying to act all knowledgeable because you had this 'experience' that others didn't.... now that someone who HAS had that experience is here to tell you you're wrong - you start singing an even more different tune - that you 'know' horseplay, and now you're basing it off of just your 'personal knowledge of 'horseplay'...

At least you stopped claiming you understand a whole 'background' of people and what they all would think of the video and have now narrowed it down to your own personal belief that abuse is tolerable if you can rationalize it as 'horseplay'.

I feel sad for any woman that you marry - heaven forbid she call 911. Because guess what - legally? That right there was dom. battery. Don't take my word for it - go try it out.

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7/21/2009 5:45am
P wrote:
[u]No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue[/u], I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had...
No I didn't say that that it was a racial issue, I simply said that you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had experience with people from that background (meaning hustlers).

Don't make it a race thing.

Dave just admit that you have no experience with people that run in that culture.


P
Please explain what this means;

"...you can't relate relate because you diverse enough to have had experience with people from that background (meaning hustlers)."

Maybe clarify "diverse enough"
What does "diverse enough" mean?


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7/21/2009 5:51am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:01am
I've been around the hoods. I've hung with some of the nasties on the South side of Chicago and seen the guns laid out on the...
I've been around the hoods.
I've hung with some of the nasties on the South side of Chicago and seen the guns laid out on the tables during discussions.

w3rd.

They all said "anyone who does that is a punk bitch, he get shot."

You're wrong P. Or you don't have any experience yourself.
is P for poser? Better watch out for Jim...




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7/21/2009 6:28am Edited Date/Time 7/21/2009 6:28am
P wrote:
Look at Loon to Jay-Z's left and the body guard is just about to smerk as he looks over Jay-Z's shoulder.


P
my mistake, you are right, the one guy is smiling
jmar wrote:
Bullshit,

That bodyguard on JayZs left is moving forward to see if she is going to hit back.
Not the bodygaurd, but the one guy is smiling. Still I dont think 1/7 smiling makes it carefree horseplay

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