Double 450 Champs - the last 20 years

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Wonder if Eli’s knee will hold up well enough to make him the first double champ (SX and National in the same year) since Dunge? Crazy that Bubba never did it, dabbing his knee at washougal in 07 ended his best shot.

2015 - Dunge
2013 - RV
2011 - RV
2010 - Dunge
2006 - RC
2005 - RC
2003 - RC
2002 - RC
2001 - RC

Honorable Mention:
1997 - Fro
1995 - Showtime
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Hank_Thrill 5/6/2022 9:42am
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edit: i get what your saying.
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TropicPilot 5/6/2022 9:55am
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Crazy to think that three guys did it 9 times in 15 years but it hasn't been done in the last six years. I like the parity and relative unpredictability of this current era.

I appreciate a dominant career much more after it's over. It gets boring watching the same guy win all the time.
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TropicPilot wrote:
Crazy to think that three guys did it 9 times in 15 years but it hasn't been done in the last six years. I like the...
Crazy to think that three guys did it 9 times in 15 years but it hasn't been done in the last six years. I like the parity and relative unpredictability of this current era.

I appreciate a dominant career much more after it's over. It gets boring watching the same guy win all the time.
I actually went away from following pro moto in 2003 and got real into following motogp at that time, Hayden and Edward's first year in that series. Of course Rossi was fairly dominant at that time too.
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Park Boys 5/6/2022 12:17pm
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IMO doing the double is the hardest thing to accomplish in this sport. As it takes so much more than just speed. Ricky made it normal which is why he is on a completely different planet than everyone else.
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bodean123 5/6/2022 4:50pm
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It’s amazing people still question Dungey’s status as one of the greatest.
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Poppanator 5/7/2022 4:33am
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bodean123 wrote:
It’s amazing people still question Dungey’s status as one of the greatest.
Do ”people” really do that though?
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mx313 5/7/2022 4:38am
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bodean123 wrote:
It’s amazing people still question Dungey’s status as one of the greatest.
Poppanator wrote:
Do ”people” really do that though?
I believe most ppl believe dungey is up there.
But the response from a lot of ppl is. Villopoto is better. And that's fair. Dungey didn't beat Villopoto head to head as much as Villopoto.
Villopoto is top 3 in modern times and dungey top 5
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Johnny Ringo 5/7/2022 6:08am
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bodean123 wrote:
It’s amazing people still question Dungey’s status as one of the greatest.
Poppanator wrote:
Do ”people” really do that though?
mx313 wrote:
I believe most ppl believe dungey is up there. But the response from a lot of ppl is. Villopoto is better. And that's fair. Dungey didn't...
I believe most ppl believe dungey is up there.
But the response from a lot of ppl is. Villopoto is better. And that's fair. Dungey didn't beat Villopoto head to head as much as Villopoto.
Villopoto is top 3 in modern times and dungey top 5
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Frank Tuesday 5/7/2022 6:22am
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bodean123 wrote:
It’s amazing people still question Dungey’s status as one of the greatest.
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top 5. You can only race who else lines up beside you, but Dungey got lucky that year with who his competition was.
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Park Boys 5/7/2022 6:45am
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Frank Tuesday wrote:
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top...
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top 5. You can only race who else lines up beside you, but Dungey got lucky that year with who his competition was.
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of 12 races and throughly dominated. Then in 2011 his bike had to DNF while he is gone in Freestone and then his bike had to start a lap down at southwick for RV to win the title.
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Johnny Ringo 5/7/2022 6:47am
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Frank Tuesday wrote:
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top...
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top 5. You can only race who else lines up beside you, but Dungey got lucky that year with who his competition was.
Park Boys wrote:
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of...
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of 12 races and throughly dominated. Then in 2011 his bike had to DNF while he is gone in Freestone and then his bike had to start a lap down at southwick for RV to win the title.
Dunge was not the best guy in 2011 outdoors. Neither was RV. They both got lucky Chad went into orbit at Millville and double DNFd southwick
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Spagina767 5/7/2022 6:59am
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bodean123 wrote:
It’s amazing people still question Dungey’s status as one of the greatest.
People mix up talking about who they “like” vs who is “good”.

So those who don’t “like” Dungey, act like he wasn’t the man… nobody had it worse than worse than James in that regard.
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mxb2 5/7/2022 7:32am
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Frank Tuesday wrote:
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top...
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top 5. You can only race who else lines up beside you, but Dungey got lucky that year with who his competition was.
Park Boys wrote:
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of...
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of 12 races and throughly dominated. Then in 2011 his bike had to DNF while he is gone in Freestone and then his bike had to start a lap down at southwick for RV to win the title.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Dunge was not the best guy in 2011 outdoors. Neither was RV. They both got lucky Chad went into orbit at Millville and double DNFd southwick
If if if if doesnt count, if tomac didnt wreck his shoulders he wd be 2015 champ also. See how that works
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Frank Tuesday 5/7/2022 9:46am
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Park Boys wrote:
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of...
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of 12 races and throughly dominated. Then in 2011 his bike had to DNF while he is gone in Freestone and then his bike had to start a lap down at southwick for RV to win the title.
So you agree with me. Dungey had a great season, especially for a rookie, but was helped by the lack of top name talent at most of the rounds.
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mxb2 5/7/2022 9:52am
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bodean123 wrote:
It’s amazing people still question Dungey’s status as one of the greatest.
Frank Tuesday wrote:
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top...
Dungey is a legend, but his competition in 2010 MX wasn't exactly a list of all-time greats. Metcalfe, Short, Townley and Alessi filled out the top 5. You can only race who else lines up beside you, but Dungey got lucky that year with who his competition was.
Like stewarts 24-0 season? Dungey will go down as top. 4-5. Of all time. Stats dont lie.
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gt80rider 5/7/2022 10:07am
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Some guys specialize indoors, and some specialize outdoors.... makes it that much harder for one guy to win both...
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Park Boys 5/7/2022 10:10am
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Park Boys wrote:
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of...
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of 12 races and throughly dominated. Then in 2011 his bike had to DNF while he is gone in Freestone and then his bike had to start a lap down at southwick for RV to win the title.
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So you agree with me. Dungey had a great season, especially for a rookie, but was helped by the lack of top name talent at most...
So you agree with me. Dungey had a great season, especially for a rookie, but was helped by the lack of top name talent at most of the rounds.
I couldn’t disagree with you more, a ROOKIE came in and dominated these guys. Reed was there for half a season and pulled out, without RD he wins that title. Windham came in after winning multiple Supercross races and was easily beat every single time outside of a mechanical DNF. Short is a SX winner and multi time MX winner, Townley a former World champ, etc. Was 2010 “stacked” no. Was it weak? No. It can not be stressed enough about how badly RD beat these guys 20 second plus wins were the norm.
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Johnny Ringo 5/7/2022 10:31am
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Park Boys wrote:
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of...
Dungey was also a 20 year old 450 rookie that reeled off 9 straight wins before his bike broke at Steel city. He won 10 of 12 races and throughly dominated. Then in 2011 his bike had to DNF while he is gone in Freestone and then his bike had to start a lap down at southwick for RV to win the title.
Frank Tuesday wrote:
So you agree with me. Dungey had a great season, especially for a rookie, but was helped by the lack of top name talent at most...
So you agree with me. Dungey had a great season, especially for a rookie, but was helped by the lack of top name talent at most of the rounds.
Park Boys wrote:
I couldn’t disagree with you more, a ROOKIE came in and dominated these guys. Reed was there for half a season and pulled out, without RD...
I couldn’t disagree with you more, a ROOKIE came in and dominated these guys. Reed was there for half a season and pulled out, without RD he wins that title. Windham came in after winning multiple Supercross races and was easily beat every single time outside of a mechanical DNF. Short is a SX winner and multi time MX winner, Townley a former World champ, etc. Was 2010 “stacked” no. Was it weak? No. It can not be stressed enough about how badly RD beat these guys 20 second plus wins were the norm.
There’s no shame in admitting the field was weak, it isn’t dungey’s fault. He can only race who is there. Same thing for Chad in 09, Stew in 08. There was an obvious void of elite riders in that time span. The titles still count. But to say the field was strong is just being dishonest. Windham was 6 years passed his prime, same with Townley.

And yes, Dunge worked those guys all summer.

I know you’re a a dunge mega fan so you’ll probably disagree, and that’s fine.
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