Carbon Monoxide Issues at Minneapolis SX?

profeshenal125 wrote:

I was told by a dr that after 24 hrs your blood stream is nearly cleaned out. I failed the lung test 1 day later. Not...

I was told by a dr that after 24 hrs your blood stream is nearly cleaned out. I failed the lung test 1 day later. Not allowed to work for 30 days CDL rules. Prednisone and strong antibiotics for 30 days. Then another lung test where you sit in a booth . The exhaling at your max for quite a few seconds is hell.

MX Dad #27 wrote:

I rode up in the elevator, in our hotel, with Zach Osbourn, he looked like he could bleed to death from his eyes! I have been...

I rode up in the elevator, in our hotel, with Zach Osbourn, he looked like he could bleed to death from his eyes!
I have been to dozens of SX and AX races and never been sick from air quality (both my daughter & I) were this time.

MX Dad #27 wrote:

I rode up in the elevator, in our hotel, with Zach Osbourn, he looked like he could bleed to death from his eyes! I have been...

I rode up in the elevator, in our hotel, with Zach Osbourn, he looked like he could bleed to death from his eyes!
I have been to dozens of SX and AX races and never been sick from air quality (both my daughter & I) were this time.

moto348 wrote:

Yikes. I assume this was after the races were done for the night?

Verysuperpumped wrote:

The amount of fuel in there was pretty minor. Most of the factory teams filled the bikes outdoors. Does anyone think maybe… just maybe it’s the...

The amount of fuel in there was pretty minor. Most of the factory teams filled the bikes outdoors.
Does anyone think maybe… just maybe it’s the dozers and skidsteers, forklifts semis, side by sides and more running almost non stop through the day?
A single cylinder engine produces plenty of exhaust but let me tell you Diesel engines put out plenty more and I know those things are running when they don’t need to be as I’m pushing a bike by them.

Spergen wrote:

Has anyone been to the doctor's and had blood samples taken if you felt that bad?

profeshenal125 wrote:

I was told by a dr that after 24 hrs your blood stream is nearly cleaned out. I failed the lung test 1 day later. Not...

I was told by a dr that after 24 hrs your blood stream is nearly cleaned out. I failed the lung test 1 day later. Not allowed to work for 30 days CDL rules. Prednisone and strong antibiotics for 30 days. Then another lung test where you sit in a booth . The exhaling at your max for quite a few seconds is hell.

moto348 wrote:

Same generic response that they had on social media: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/23/535158/s1200_Untitled_design.jpg[/img] I replied with a portion of my original question when I submitted the form that wasn't...

Same generic response that they had on social media:


I replied with a portion of my original question when I submitted the form that wasn't answered and I referenced the guidelines about "...Arena staff are required to make air quality records available to the public upon request." https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/air/arenas/enclo…

"Can you send over the "Log of Air Quality Testing for Motorsports" and any reports of Exceedance for both CO and NO2. Also wondering if there are tests within the facility for VOCs in the air? Many of the race fuels used by participants can produce them either from vapors or unburned from the tail pipe."

OrangeJuice158 wrote:

Any response from those guys? Seems nuts that something like this can happen in todays crazy litigious world.

Spergen wrote:

Has anyone been to the doctor's and had blood samples taken if you felt that bad?

profeshenal125 wrote:

I was told by a dr that after 24 hrs your blood stream is nearly cleaned out. I failed the lung test 1 day later. Not...

I was told by a dr that after 24 hrs your blood stream is nearly cleaned out. I failed the lung test 1 day later. Not allowed to work for 30 days CDL rules. Prednisone and strong antibiotics for 30 days. Then another lung test where you sit in a booth . The exhaling at your max for quite a few seconds is hell.

Spergen wrote:

Just to clarify I downloaded your comment not because I disagree with you but because it's shit what your going through. Had a lung cancer scare...

Just to clarify I downloaded your comment not because I disagree with you but because it's shit what your going through. Had a lung cancer scare few years ago and know how frightening it is not being able to breathe

moto348 wrote:

@profeshenal125 if I decipher what you've wrote, acetic anhydride was in the dirt, can explain how that would happen?

moto348 wrote:

Nothing. I'm guessing a lack of response is because of aforementioned litigious world we are in. Perhaps they didn't take air quality readings, or someone dropped...

Nothing.

I'm guessing a lack of response is because of aforementioned litigious world we are in. Perhaps they didn't take air quality readings, or someone dropped the ball and still let the event go on, not sure. I gave them 24 hours since my reply was around 4pm yesterday and nothing. So I'm going to forward this to the MN Dept of Health. And hopefully they'll follow through to get some answers because it's a bit ridiculous IMO.

Also going to reach out to Feld. I don't think they'd want their source of revenue to be pissed off & never attend a race again because it made them insanely sick.

I saw a comment on the stadium's FB post (https://www.facebook.com/usbankstadium/photos/a.374697982739172/1919998…) from a lady who sat in section 119 (behind the right side of the gate) who stated she has been sick with a sore throat, cough & muscle aches & last night she broke out in a rash (she shared the photo in the cmnts), doctor confirmed it was from carbon monoxide.

After some thought, I remember my nose lightly running the entire duration of the racing. Nose has been slightly stuffed up all week as well. Part of that could be because temps have been single digits & the air is very dry, but I'm sure fumes don't help.

moto348 wrote:

Nothing. I'm guessing a lack of response is because of aforementioned litigious world we are in. Perhaps they didn't take air quality readings, or someone dropped...

Nothing.

I'm guessing a lack of response is because of aforementioned litigious world we are in. Perhaps they didn't take air quality readings, or someone dropped the ball and still let the event go on, not sure. I gave them 24 hours since my reply was around 4pm yesterday and nothing. So I'm going to forward this to the MN Dept of Health. And hopefully they'll follow through to get some answers because it's a bit ridiculous IMO.

Also going to reach out to Feld. I don't think they'd want their source of revenue to be pissed off & never attend a race again because it made them insanely sick.

I saw a comment on the stadium's FB post (https://www.facebook.com/usbankstadium/photos/a.374697982739172/1919998…) from a lady who sat in section 119 (behind the right side of the gate) who stated she has been sick with a sore throat, cough & muscle aches & last night she broke out in a rash (she shared the photo in the cmnts), doctor confirmed it was from carbon monoxide.

After some thought, I remember my nose lightly running the entire duration of the racing. Nose has been slightly stuffed up all week as well. Part of that could be because temps have been single digits & the air is very dry, but I'm sure fumes don't help.

moto348 wrote:

Nothing. I'm guessing a lack of response is because of aforementioned litigious world we are in. Perhaps they didn't take air quality readings, or someone dropped...

Nothing.

I'm guessing a lack of response is because of aforementioned litigious world we are in. Perhaps they didn't take air quality readings, or someone dropped the ball and still let the event go on, not sure. I gave them 24 hours since my reply was around 4pm yesterday and nothing. So I'm going to forward this to the MN Dept of Health. And hopefully they'll follow through to get some answers because it's a bit ridiculous IMO.

Also going to reach out to Feld. I don't think they'd want their source of revenue to be pissed off & never attend a race again because it made them insanely sick.

I saw a comment on the stadium's FB post (https://www.facebook.com/usbankstadium/photos/a.374697982739172/1919998…) from a lady who sat in section 119 (behind the right side of the gate) who stated she has been sick with a sore throat, cough & muscle aches & last night she broke out in a rash (she shared the photo in the cmnts), doctor confirmed it was from carbon monoxide.

After some thought, I remember my nose lightly running the entire duration of the racing. Nose has been slightly stuffed up all week as well. Part of that could be because temps have been single digits & the air is very dry, but I'm sure fumes don't help.

lostboy819 wrote:

I am sure they are preparing a complete and very detailed report just for you because you emailed them.

steezenation wrote:

I appreciate your efforts so far. 6 days later and my brain fog is mostly cleared, my lungs are still not back to 100%. Saturday and...

I appreciate your efforts so far. 6 days later and my brain fog is mostly cleared, my lungs are still not back to 100%. Saturday and Sunday nights I had a migraine and spent the night over the toilet. Monday getting up for work felt just like a concussion, except I could taste exhaust.

Hate that the assumption is that if someone were held accountable, we will lose the race. Doing it the right way isn’t impossible, and this is unacceptable.

AgentOrange wrote:

This is the third time we've had supercross in US Bank stadium, don't remember this being an issue in previous years. My family and friends were...

This is the third time we've had supercross in US Bank stadium, don't remember this being an issue in previous years. My family and friends were there for 4 hrs, we did not experience any health issues. It was dusty in there though, as expected.

moto348 wrote:

Nothing. I'm guessing a lack of response is because of aforementioned litigious world we are in. Perhaps they didn't take air quality readings, or someone dropped...

Nothing.

I'm guessing a lack of response is because of aforementioned litigious world we are in. Perhaps they didn't take air quality readings, or someone dropped the ball and still let the event go on, not sure. I gave them 24 hours since my reply was around 4pm yesterday and nothing. So I'm going to forward this to the MN Dept of Health. And hopefully they'll follow through to get some answers because it's a bit ridiculous IMO.

Also going to reach out to Feld. I don't think they'd want their source of revenue to be pissed off & never attend a race again because it made them insanely sick.

I saw a comment on the stadium's FB post (https://www.facebook.com/usbankstadium/photos/a.374697982739172/1919998…) from a lady who sat in section 119 (behind the right side of the gate) who stated she has been sick with a sore throat, cough & muscle aches & last night she broke out in a rash (she shared the photo in the cmnts), doctor confirmed it was from carbon monoxide.

After some thought, I remember my nose lightly running the entire duration of the racing. Nose has been slightly stuffed up all week as well. Part of that could be because temps have been single digits & the air is very dry, but I'm sure fumes don't help.

lostboy819 wrote:

I am sure they are preparing a complete and very detailed report just for you because you emailed them.

moto348 wrote:

Just checked my email and they responded. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/25/535446/s1200_stadium.jpg[/img] I bet you'd think differently if you attended the race, but based on the fact that you have...

Just checked my email and they responded.

I bet you'd think differently if you attended the race, but based on the fact that you have 10,000 posts on a message board that nets very little return on your time & effort, you probably wouldn't. I can predict your response which is something along the lines of [insert South Park took our job style yelling] "to suck it up, rub some dirt in it, etc."

Perhaps you should read up the requirements set by the MN Dept of Health for indoor venues with motorsports since fumes can be bad enough to kill a person: https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/air/arenas/enclo… especially the part about sharing the readings with the public upon request.

Last night I reached out to MDH (as well as Feld) regarding this. It's not in the best interest of any state-level govt agency, promoter or a high-profile venue to have fans, stadium staff & participants getting sick at an event.

lostboy819 wrote:

And then what are you going to do when you get the data ?

TeamGreen wrote:

If…if you ever get the data. It may be available thru some “public records” law in MN; but, the responsibility to figure that process out may...

If…if you ever get the data. It may be available thru some “public records” law in MN; but, the responsibility to figure that process out may not be the stadium’s. It may be on the individual to figure out the process thru whatever MN calls their state “EPA”.

Also, it may involve some sort of report or claim process.

TeamGreen wrote:

If…if you ever get the data. It may be available thru some “public records” law in MN; but, the responsibility to figure that process out may...

If…if you ever get the data. It may be available thru some “public records” law in MN; but, the responsibility to figure that process out may not be the stadium’s. It may be on the individual to figure out the process thru whatever MN calls their state “EPA”.

Also, it may involve some sort of report or claim process.

moto348 wrote:

To figure out what process? MN's "EPA" seems to be governed by the Dept of Health & the rules for venues seem pretty clear here: https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/air/arenas/enclosed.html...

To figure out what process? MN's "EPA" seems to be governed by the Dept of Health & the rules for venues seem pretty clear here: https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/air/arenas/enclo… (read thru the PDFs of each form)

The venue has to collect the data & keep it on hand for 3 years and then provide the data to the public upon request. If the numbers are skewed/false then unless MDH is a corrupt organization, the stadium will be in massive trouble & lawsuits would probably pile up because there would be some very opportunistic lawyers that would jump on this.

https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/environment/air/docs/arenas/…
"Recordkeeping
Arenas must maintain a recordkeeping log and keep it in the building. This log must be made available for MDH and the public to review at all times the arena building is open to the public. Required documents include:
▪ Training records
▪ Air quality measurement logs
▪ Air testing equipment maintenance
logs

All documents must be retained for 3 years."