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Isn’t his brother or half brother one of the head guys at star as well? Jeremy Coker. Point being he’s been on great equipment since before...
Isn’t his brother or half brother one of the head guys at star as well? Jeremy Coker. Point being he’s been on great equipment since before he retired and since he’s came back. I fail to understand the whole “nobody’s had a career like me” crap. Canard had way gnarlier injuries and titles 🤷🏻‍♂️
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So have Pourcel and Doug Henry. I also fail to see his point with the "nobody has had a career like me". He came back from...
So have Pourcel and Doug Henry.

I also fail to see his point with the "nobody has had a career like me".

He came back from big injuries, but he's not the only one. Left the sport and came back to win races, again he's not the only one. Not only that, but he came back to a factory ride because of who he's married to.

Barcia, Wilson, Malcolm, etc. all had to put their own efforts together to earn back a ride.

Not denying his talent, but the whole adversity thing is laid on pretty thick, IMO.
I agree with the whole “nobody has had a career like me”
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What was Treys career ending injuries that didn’t happen?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjPoPzsYxs

That’s just one of them. Broke his femur at Washougal from coming back from a broken femur if I remember correctly.
Yeah same jump. Personally, I’ll take a broken femur 2x over a broken back any day. I’m saying this with experience.
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This thread reads like a romper room paste eating contest.

What does the winner get for his effort?
And upgrade to the big boy glue.

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Ozy wrote:
This thread reads like a romper room paste eating contest.

What does the winner get for his effort?
“Mint chocolate chip ice cream” 😂
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Craig is a generational talent
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Zycki11 wrote:
What was Treys career ending injuries that didn’t happen?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjPoPzsYxs

That’s just one of them. Broke his femur at Washougal from coming back from a broken femur if I remember correctly.
Zycki11 wrote:
Yeah same jump. Personally, I’ll take a broken femur 2x over a broken back any day. I’m saying this with experience.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjPoPzsYxs
We just gonna forget about canards broken back?
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Isn’t his brother or half brother one of the head guys at star as well? Jeremy Coker. Point being he’s been on great equipment since before...
Isn’t his brother or half brother one of the head guys at star as well? Jeremy Coker. Point being he’s been on great equipment since before he retired and since he’s came back. I fail to understand the whole “nobody’s had a career like me” crap. Canard had way gnarlier injuries and titles 🤷🏻‍♂️
moto_on wrote:
Welcome to 2022 where everybody is soft and common sense doesnt exist anymore. I fully agree but you will get shouted down for saying anything negative...
Welcome to 2022 where everybody is soft and common sense doesnt exist anymore. I fully agree but you will get shouted down for saying anything negative about the Craig darlings. Canard had twice the career as Craig and suffered way more possible career ending injuries. Craig is like Hansen lots of talent been on great equipment full of excuses and an army of people supporting them.
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What was Treys career ending injuries that didn’t happen?
Lol for real, this moto-on dude is such a clown. Has to be trolling because no one could possibly be so dumb.
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Matthes and others are going to be so overly outraged by this incident to let cool kid Craig know that they are bros
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They are using personalities to sell the sport. It’s called promoting… see boxing, mma, nfl etc
Feld should honestly try and grow their YouTube channel with more stories like that.

Would be cool to see short documentaries on some of the riders. Shimoda comes from Japan. That's a story I'm sure plenty of people would be interested in hearing. Supercross doesn't get much further away than Japan.

Same goes for Ken in Germany, Musquin/Ferrandis from France, Lawrence brothers from Australia. Anderson from New Mexico, not exactly the hot bed of the sport. Bonus if they can actually get it done where they're from.

I'd much rather watch something like that than "What's your middle name?", "Where did you meet your wife?", etc. Glad they ditched that segment.

It would also be better than watching "How to jump a triple". If you're new to the sport, great, but I'd imagine the amount of people that actually care about things like that is low.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjPoPzsYxs

That’s just one of them. Broke his femur at Washougal from coming back from a broken femur if I remember correctly.
Zycki11 wrote:
Yeah same jump. Personally, I’ll take a broken femur 2x over a broken back any day. I’m saying this with experience.
riderz6969 wrote:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AWjPoPzsYxs
We just gonna forget about canards broken back?
That was nasty for sure, forgot about the broken back. Again, I'm not stating Craig has had the worst go.
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I really hope the amount of people giving Craig a hard time about how much time he has spent in the 250 class, are going to be consistent and give somebody like RJ Hampshire the same love considering RJ has been in the class for a very long time himself.
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JJO741 wrote:
I really hope the amount of people giving Craig a hard time about how much time he has spent in the 250 class, are going to...
I really hope the amount of people giving Craig a hard time about how much time he has spent in the 250 class, are going to be consistent and give somebody like RJ Hampshire the same love considering RJ has been in the class for a very long time himself.
X2. What about. Blose, jmart. Etc. Who cares let these dudes ride what makes them $ not what social media wants them to do . Their life,there choices. I doubt if craig cares what a vital poster does with his working career.
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2/6/2022 1:54pm
JJO741 wrote:
I really hope the amount of people giving Craig a hard time about how much time he has spent in the 250 class, are going to...
I really hope the amount of people giving Craig a hard time about how much time he has spent in the 250 class, are going to be consistent and give somebody like RJ Hampshire the same love considering RJ has been in the class for a very long time himself.
This...and what about the dude from Ecuador, that was lites for like, 15 years?
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JJO741 wrote:
I really hope the amount of people giving Craig a hard time about how much time he has spent in the 250 class, are going to...
I really hope the amount of people giving Craig a hard time about how much time he has spent in the 250 class, are going to be consistent and give somebody like RJ Hampshire the same love considering RJ has been in the class for a very long time himself.
This...and what about the dude from Ecuador, that was lites for like, 15 years?
Good point. Nobody had anything to say about Davolos
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2/6/2022 4:09pm
Windham, Canard, Pourcel, Henry, Osbourne, Mookie, Reed, j mart, Ryno, Ferry, Vohland, Cianciarulo…what do they have in common? 12 guys off the top of my head that either retired or got extremely close to calling it quits, and then went on to do exponentially more impressive things than Craig’s “comeback”.
Also the sandbagging wouldn’t bother me nearly as much if they didn’t act like it’s such a huge accomplishment to be doing what he’s doing. Kinda like how J Mart has commented multiple times about how it sucks to still be in this class but had no other factory options. And you can’t even put those two in the same sentence when it comes to outdoors.
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moto_on wrote:
God man all you do is dumb everthing down with zero logic. I have no hate against Craig i used to cheer for his dad back...
God man all you do is dumb everthing down with zero logic. I have no hate against Craig i used to cheer for his dad back in the day. I just dont feel its right for him to take a potentional championship away from the 3 kids i listed. Example when craig turned pro in eitther 09 or 10 his competion was Canard, Wiemer, Dungey, Seely all around his experience level and age. Why cant that make sense to you at least?
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Coming into this season Craig only had like 45 starts on a 250. There have been plenty of people with way more starts than him. He’s...
Coming into this season Craig only had like 45 starts on a 250. There have been plenty of people with way more starts than him. He’s just had a unique career that’s had mostly fill-in rides and time off for lots of reasons.
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I believe it was 34 starts 1 behind J-Mart…these same trolls will attack J-Mart when we go east…
48 starts before this season for Craig and 49 for J Martin
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So what Craig has been in the class longer than the kids. Until 2021 he had 1 career win. Last year he was fast and won...
So what Craig has been in the class longer than the kids. Until 2021 he had 1 career win.

Last year he was fast and won a few times but suffered what looked like a lack of fitness and some mental breakdowns that kept him from the title. This year he has the total package and is for the first time ever is the top guy in the class.

I am not even a Craig fan, I was all in for Colt to win last year. What I do not get is all the negativity being thrown at him this season. In the end he will likely end up with 2 strong years in the 250 class and then move up next year.
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But but but….it’s not ethical and his wife has designer bags…
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God man all you do is dumb everthing down with zero logic. I have no hate against Craig i used to cheer for his dad back...
God man all you do is dumb everthing down with zero logic. I have no hate against Craig i used to cheer for his dad back in the day. I just dont feel its right for him to take a potentional championship away from the 3 kids i listed. Example when craig turned pro in eitther 09 or 10 his competion was Canard, Wiemer, Dungey, Seely all around his experience level and age. Why cant that make sense to you at least?
You must really hate that Dowd dropped down and won a 125 SX title. Many riders have retired for good at Craig’s age. Usually it’s a case if he’s winning despite being so old. Not the other way around. Craig will be on a 450 next year and likely only has a few years left racing. In the meantime stop worrying about what he’s got.
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Windham, Canard, Pourcel, Henry, Osbourne, Mookie, Reed, j mart, Ryno, Ferry, Vohland, Cianciarulo…what do they have in common? 12 guys off the top of my head...
Windham, Canard, Pourcel, Henry, Osbourne, Mookie, Reed, j mart, Ryno, Ferry, Vohland, Cianciarulo…what do they have in common? 12 guys off the top of my head that either retired or got extremely close to calling it quits, and then went on to do exponentially more impressive things than Craig’s “comeback”.
Also the sandbagging wouldn’t bother me nearly as much if they didn’t act like it’s such a huge accomplishment to be doing what he’s doing. Kinda like how J Mart has commented multiple times about how it sucks to still be in this class but had no other factory options. And you can’t even put those two in the same sentence when it comes to outdoors.
Looking at your list of guys off the top of your head who either retired or came close to it……wtf are you talking about? I see guys who had big injuries, I see guys who did impressive things after having injuries but I’m not sure what that has to do with Craig. I mean I love Robbie Reynard but he never got a chance to do anything in his career other than be injured. Doug Henry is a god but again, that means Craig’s story is shit? No one is comparing Craig’s story to anyone else’s except the people who seem to dislike him. Most of us love all these guys and each of their stories is a good one. Impressive ones. It’s not a pissing contest except to you.
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moto_on wrote:
Why is this not a common opinion? Its called sand bagging. It makes the 250 racing damn near unwatchable.
DonM wrote:
Actually no….winning is not sandbagging…it’s when someone controls their results to stay in a classification…I suggest you stop watching…
moto_on wrote:
Alright man if Craig wants to feel good about his championship this year he will win against 20 something year olds by all means have at...
Alright man if Craig wants to feel good about his championship this year he will win against 20 something year olds by all means have at it. I for one would not feel good about that. Just because the rules are the rules doesnt make it right morally or ethically. He knows he should not be in that class. I remember when i raced beginner and whooped everyones ass by like 20 seconds not even trying i moved up to novice next weekend. All you are doing is hiding behind the "rules" instead of looking at the reality.
If CC turned down a factory 450 ride your comments might actually have some merit but given that isn't the case you just sound like an idiot.
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You know its more than likely he races 2023 in the 250 class.
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JB479 wrote:
You know its more than likely he races 2023 in the 250 class.
How? He's pointed out. I don't see them making a CC rule for 23.
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JB479 wrote:
You know its more than likely he races 2023 in the 250 class.
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How? He's pointed out. I don't see them making a CC rule for 23.
He can defend his championship if he wins it….Both Nichols and Cooper pointed out but had this year to defend their championship…it’s why they have to move up next year
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moto_on wrote:
Why is this not a common opinion? Its called sand bagging. It makes the 250 racing damn near unwatchable.
DonM wrote:
Actually no….winning is not sandbagging…it’s when someone controls their results to stay in a classification…I suggest you stop watching…
moto_on wrote:
Alright man if Craig wants to feel good about his championship this year he will win against 20 something year olds by all means have at...
Alright man if Craig wants to feel good about his championship this year he will win against 20 something year olds by all means have at it. I for one would not feel good about that. Just because the rules are the rules doesnt make it right morally or ethically. He knows he should not be in that class. I remember when i raced beginner and whooped everyones ass by like 20 seconds not even trying i moved up to novice next weekend. All you are doing is hiding behind the "rules" instead of looking at the reality.
Comparing you sangbagging the beginner class to CC in a professional series. Really? That’s laughable
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JB479 wrote:
You know its more than likely he races 2023 in the 250 class.
Has stated regardless a 450 is waiting for him next year. If he wins or if he doesn’t he’ll be in the 450 class.
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Feld should honestly try and grow their YouTube channel with more stories like that. Would be cool to see short documentaries on some of the riders...
Feld should honestly try and grow their YouTube channel with more stories like that.

Would be cool to see short documentaries on some of the riders. Shimoda comes from Japan. That's a story I'm sure plenty of people would be interested in hearing. Supercross doesn't get much further away than Japan.

Same goes for Ken in Germany, Musquin/Ferrandis from France, Lawrence brothers from Australia. Anderson from New Mexico, not exactly the hot bed of the sport. Bonus if they can actually get it done where they're from.

I'd much rather watch something like that than "What's your middle name?", "Where did you meet your wife?", etc. Glad they ditched that segment.

It would also be better than watching "How to jump a triple". If you're new to the sport, great, but I'd imagine the amount of people that actually care about things like that is low.
All those things you mentioned would be very interesting and worth seeing.

BUT- this is a bottom-tier sport, and that means bottom tier production and creative talent in involved with what we see on the air.

Some of those “ how did you meet your girlfriend” interviews are cringe-worthy, but someone had to think that shit up, and someone in charge of production had to OK it and put it on the air.

We get what we deserve.


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I agree Craig is a great rider, but step up to the 450. You are man among boys (maybe). He has what 8 years on some...
I agree Craig is a great rider, but step up to the 450. You are man among boys (maybe). He has what 8 years on some of these guys. He was pro when they were on 50s. He must feel badass beating them. He goes down like that in the 450 class he would be lucky to be top 15. The west 250 class is so weak it’s hard to watch.
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Why is this not a common opinion? Its called sand bagging. It makes the 250 racing damn near unwatchable.
How is it sand bagging?
His never won a lites title and only won a handful of races before this season, same as Davalos etc.
If you say it’s unwatchable now, imagine the top few go up to 450’s, then you have a more stacked 450 LCQ, and even weaker 250 class.
Why go to 450’s if you haven’t won the title yet, and you have a paid ride and an opportunity to win one.
It’s not like his winning it year after a year and staying down.
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Hotwhls wrote:
I agree Craig is a great rider, but step up to the 450. You are man among boys (maybe). He has what 8 years on some...
I agree Craig is a great rider, but step up to the 450. You are man among boys (maybe). He has what 8 years on some of these guys. He was pro when they were on 50s. He must feel badass beating them. He goes down like that in the 450 class he would be lucky to be top 15. The west 250 class is so weak it’s hard to watch.
moto_on wrote:
Why is this not a common opinion? Its called sand bagging. It makes the 250 racing damn near unwatchable.
Wil Denis wrote:
How is it sand bagging? His never won a lites title and only won a handful of races before this season, same as Davalos etc. If...
How is it sand bagging?
His never won a lites title and only won a handful of races before this season, same as Davalos etc.
If you say it’s unwatchable now, imagine the top few go up to 450’s, then you have a more stacked 450 LCQ, and even weaker 250 class.
Why go to 450’s if you haven’t won the title yet, and you have a paid ride and an opportunity to win one.
It’s not like his winning it year after a year and staying down.
He hates Craig….If he were smart he would know the difference between sandbagging and cherry-picking….
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Feld should honestly try and grow their YouTube channel with more stories like that. Would be cool to see short documentaries on some of the riders...
Feld should honestly try and grow their YouTube channel with more stories like that.

Would be cool to see short documentaries on some of the riders. Shimoda comes from Japan. That's a story I'm sure plenty of people would be interested in hearing. Supercross doesn't get much further away than Japan.

Same goes for Ken in Germany, Musquin/Ferrandis from France, Lawrence brothers from Australia. Anderson from New Mexico, not exactly the hot bed of the sport. Bonus if they can actually get it done where they're from.

I'd much rather watch something like that than "What's your middle name?", "Where did you meet your wife?", etc. Glad they ditched that segment.

It would also be better than watching "How to jump a triple". If you're new to the sport, great, but I'd imagine the amount of people that actually care about things like that is low.
I watched Weeges / Keeges before / after race pit walk around last night, and, as ever, found it wonderfully entertaining.

The standout was his talking to Chiz - I really think that is the sort of thing Feld should put up during broadcasts. Entertaining, informative about one of the 'lesser lights' ( and I mean absolutely NO disrespect to Chiz or Any of the riders further down the place getters) and bloody funny. And, ' Team Solitaire's' managers (my minds gone blank - I used to follow his page in RacerX, years ago) take on things was great, too.

I'm sure (well, I hope, but you never know about say, the sponsor of a vlogs' approval) Weege / DC and Co would not object to having some of their stuff used. Weege revealed he was a 'spotter' for the broadcast, so he seems to be 'in' with SX. But, then again, the seemingly absolutely verboten mention of National Championships by riders, and therefore MXSports (eg, RCs) and only mention of SX Titles success, may indicate otherwise, with regards to Feld ever making use of others work.
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Windham, Canard, Pourcel, Henry, Osbourne, Mookie, Reed, j mart, Ryno, Ferry, Vohland, Cianciarulo…what do they have in common? 12 guys off the top of my head...
Windham, Canard, Pourcel, Henry, Osbourne, Mookie, Reed, j mart, Ryno, Ferry, Vohland, Cianciarulo…what do they have in common? 12 guys off the top of my head that either retired or got extremely close to calling it quits, and then went on to do exponentially more impressive things than Craig’s “comeback”.
Also the sandbagging wouldn’t bother me nearly as much if they didn’t act like it’s such a huge accomplishment to be doing what he’s doing. Kinda like how J Mart has commented multiple times about how it sucks to still be in this class but had no other factory options. And you can’t even put those two in the same sentence when it comes to outdoors.
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Looking at your list of guys off the top of your head who either retired or came close to it……wtf are you talking about? I see...
Looking at your list of guys off the top of your head who either retired or came close to it……wtf are you talking about? I see guys who had big injuries, I see guys who did impressive things after having injuries but I’m not sure what that has to do with Craig. I mean I love Robbie Reynard but he never got a chance to do anything in his career other than be injured. Doug Henry is a god but again, that means Craig’s story is shit? No one is comparing Craig’s story to anyone else’s except the people who seem to dislike him. Most of us love all these guys and each of their stories is a good one. Impressive ones. It’s not a pissing contest except to you.
“No one is comparing Craig’s story to anyone else….”

Ummm Craig himself said “… nobody has had a career like me.” That’s where this comes from.
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