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I live in the Hemet area on the border line of city and county. I live in the county side which is sheriff patrolled.
For the last year we have been dealing with homeless on an empty lot behind my home. The last month has been a nightmare of fighting and trash accumulated even resulting in a huge fire.
The current people are about 20 feet from my fence line and about 300 feet from my daughters rear window of the house.
They fight at all times of day and night. Have seen the using the restroom 1&2 and nudity from the male and female. Last Friday night they threatened to kill my dogs for barking and disturbing them.
I have contacted the Riverside county code enforcement as well as the sherrif with no results.
What rights do I have as a homeowner? At this point I am totally broken and feel helpless to keep my family safe. My daughter will no longer sleep in her room. We can’t let our dogs out in the back for fear of upsetting the Homeless.
If anyone can give me advice it would be greatly appreciated.
For the last year we have been dealing with homeless on an empty lot behind my home. The last month has been a nightmare of fighting and trash accumulated even resulting in a huge fire.
The current people are about 20 feet from my fence line and about 300 feet from my daughters rear window of the house.
They fight at all times of day and night. Have seen the using the restroom 1&2 and nudity from the male and female. Last Friday night they threatened to kill my dogs for barking and disturbing them.
I have contacted the Riverside county code enforcement as well as the sherrif with no results.
What rights do I have as a homeowner? At this point I am totally broken and feel helpless to keep my family safe. My daughter will no longer sleep in her room. We can’t let our dogs out in the back for fear of upsetting the Homeless.
If anyone can give me advice it would be greatly appreciated.
Technically the folks camping there aren’t trespassing on ‘your’ property, they are trespassing on the lot owner’s property. They are making your life miserable, and the easiest way to try to eliminate that would be for the lot owner to do it. If they refuse, then they would assume some of the liability for your discomfort.
Sorry I don't have any advice, try what APL suggested. The cops around here don't really do anything about anything.
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Unfortunately your only option is to make nice and learn to live with them. You can still work behind the scenes to rid the lot of them, but to their face, you need to show understanding and compassion, even if it's not how you feel. But it's better than them shitting on your doorstep and threatening to kill your dogs.
Vagrants are the hardest people on earth to deal with, because whatever inconvenience they're causing you doesn't compare to the harshness of their day to day life. The reasons behind why they're there and why they can't get out of their situation are irrelevant when you're trying to make a plea for any decency from them.
I do not envy your issue and wish you the best of luck.
Actually, help them build a tiny home. It won't be long before they get "evicted" from it.
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Pay to relocate them? Offer some cash to leave, payment to be made when you confirm a new home (yeah word will spread and his buddy will be moved there the next day looking for cash too).
Buy him some nice clothes, get his hair cut, shower at your place then take him job hunting..Then drive him to work each morning until he has enough money for a car and apartment..
Pay him to do work around your house (cut lawn, pull weeds, spread mulch, trim bushes, edge along the driveway, paint the shutters )…
Move out of that 3rd world country,.market is high right now (more way than one)..
in Joshua Tree. I don't know who owned it but it was known as the pit and there was a port a Jon and a dumpster that somebody paid for. It was known in the climbing community as a place you could go camp if you overstayed the 2 week peak season limit at the campgrounds in the park. That was along time ago, it probably got shut down or turned into a bad scene. It always felt a little sketchy.
To the OP, is there any way you can band together with your neighbors to either petition the town to take action or posse up to handle it on your own? They know where you live and you have no idea how crazy they are. Shitty situation.
I’d install cameras pointing alongside the back of your house and, have one pointing directly at the lot. Cameras do tend to make criminals uncomfortable.
One person builds a shack and before you know it there is an informal settlement built.
It is an on going problem and authorities remove them and they come back and rebuild in a matter of days.
There is plenty of land on the outskirts of cities but the vagrants prefer to be right in the centre of neighborhoods are at least close to residential areas as the garbage cans offer good pickings.
Then we have the Bergies..
On going probkem with no solution.
How much have you reached out to the other neighbors that live next to and around that lot? Squeaky wheel gets the grease, band with your neighbors and all of you need to start making daily calls and emails to all of your County supervisors (or whoever is in charge in your County). Probably take a a dozen calls/emails a day for a 2/3 weeks but they should eventually hear you.
They will get tired of the daily calls and emails and will push the Sheriff's dept to start doing something. Yes they will probably just move on to the next neighborhood but at least it is not yours.
I have a fence with the mesh. I ordered the wood fence from Home Depot today. Also ordered spot lights I will hard wire in.
At this point I will just let it be what it is. It does not sound like I have an option.
Although I’d love to ride my bike and all that I do not want to upset other good neighbors. We ride pit bikes but that’s it. I am just a loss of thought and words at this point.
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You can't do much with what happens on the property you don't own, but you can send a message that if they come on to your property, they will regret it. If someone threatened to kill my dog and my daughter felt unsafe, that'd be a hill I would be willing to die on. I would also, as someone else suggested, install lights and video cameras.
This shit is out of control so I'd recommend being your own first responder, and yes that involves exercising your 2A rights and being smart about it. Know your rights.
The cameras are a great idea. Good luck and keep us posted. Sorry you’re dealing with this BS.
He has been there 2 times already and asked them nicely to leave and even gave them $300 to get a hotel or move.
The sherrif told him he has to serve them an eviction notice and no trespassing notice and also give them no less then 30 days to move.
The sherrif also said unless a property has fencing and no trespassing signs he cannot claim no trespassing.
Thank you again for all the help. I understand things happen to people but there are programs available and shelters that assist in job and home placement. So my sympathy only goes so far.
Could be different in Hemet, but in SD county I recently had the Sheriff come with me to tell some homeless people to leave my parents field. But the Sheriffs are so overwhelmed right now it's understandable. So best thing I could think of,
when watching Naked and Afraid, what many times gets them to move is the biting bugs. Maybe you could acquire a container full of fleas, walk over, offer them some toilet paper and trash bags, and while you're there liberate the fleas.
Just don't know where you'd acquire a few thousand fleas, lol
But in reality, by letting them live there for a whole year, the owner has a big logistics problem getting them out.
They do now have to be evicted, I don't even know how that works with homeless but I remember in 2008-2010
all the empty houses that had squatters that had to be evicted.
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