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Tumic 1/16/2022 9:27am
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It can be the bike in that sense that it produces to much power that someone said. Tomac is a bad example since he cant holeshot a start even if he is alone on the gate.

But Ferrandis had decent starts this summer and a national start straight is twice the length almost so if you make a bad jump or spins the first meters, you can still make up ground before the first turn with that engine.

When i raced 450’s in 2008 i made better starts with my stock exhaust than with my aftermarket because the stock were procucing less power and hooked up better.
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Tumic wrote:
It can be the bike in that sense that it produces to much power that someone said. Tomac is a bad example since he cant holeshot...
It can be the bike in that sense that it produces to much power that someone said. Tomac is a bad example since he cant holeshot a start even if he is alone on the gate.

But Ferrandis had decent starts this summer and a national start straight is twice the length almost so if you make a bad jump or spins the first meters, you can still make up ground before the first turn with that engine.

When i raced 450’s in 2008 i made better starts with my stock exhaust than with my aftermarket because the stock were procucing less power and hooked up better.
Dylan's starts outdoors were pretty good, but they were also starting on dirt. He needs to figure out starting on the metal grates they use in SX.
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Chris_Buehler 1/16/2022 9:41am
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Tumic wrote:
It can be the bike in that sense that it produces to much power that someone said. Tomac is a bad example since he cant holeshot...
It can be the bike in that sense that it produces to much power that someone said. Tomac is a bad example since he cant holeshot a start even if he is alone on the gate.

But Ferrandis had decent starts this summer and a national start straight is twice the length almost so if you make a bad jump or spins the first meters, you can still make up ground before the first turn with that engine.

When i raced 450’s in 2008 i made better starts with my stock exhaust than with my aftermarket because the stock were procucing less power and hooked up better.
He's never been that good at starts in sx. Even on a 250 he came from the back a lot
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Yeti831 1/16/2022 9:47am
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Idk bud, seemed to work well for Tomac last night 🤷‍♂️
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Bruce372 1/16/2022 9:51am
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Is the star Yamaha 450 running a cable or hydro clutch? Only suzuki and Yamaha don't come stock with hydro, correct?
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Suicidal_Tendencies 1/16/2022 9:51am
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This may come as a surprise to some, but even if Dylan gets a good start, he might not win. All those guys up front are fast af.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Dylan's starts outdoors were pretty good, but they were also starting on dirt. He needs to figure out starting on the metal grates they use in...
Dylan's starts outdoors were pretty good, but they were also starting on dirt. He needs to figure out starting on the metal grates they use in SX.
At least the greates are consistent. You can make a Holeshot map that works for the whole season. Dirt alwas changes so it’s strange that he struggles more on a ”easier” gate.
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HusqFan3 1/16/2022 10:06am
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Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result and one not so good result. So to say it's a bit premature to pronounce how much better AP is on orange compared to blue is an understatement.

2) Both DF and ET3 have struggled with starts a majority of their careers. So seeing ET3 get the same 10-12th place starts he was getting on his Kawi just last year doesn't exactly serve as evidence that the bike is the problem.

Attempting to draw and conclusions after 2 races is just silly period.
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Kenny Lingus 1/16/2022 10:12am
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He's a modern day Mike LaRocco.
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Chris_Buehler 1/16/2022 10:16am
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Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
HusqFan3 wrote:
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result...
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result and one not so good result. So to say it's a bit premature to pronounce how much better AP is on orange compared to blue is an understatement.

2) Both DF and ET3 have struggled with starts a majority of their careers. So seeing ET3 get the same 10-12th place starts he was getting on his Kawi just last year doesn't exactly serve as evidence that the bike is the problem.

Attempting to draw and conclusions after 2 races is just silly period.
I like how after a massive 2 race size sample he's already throwing in Plessinger as "shining" after leaving Yamaha
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-MAVERICK- 1/16/2022 10:21am
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Dylan's starts outdoors were pretty good, but they were also starting on dirt. He needs to figure out starting on the metal grates they use in...
Dylan's starts outdoors were pretty good, but they were also starting on dirt. He needs to figure out starting on the metal grates they use in SX.
Tumic wrote:
At least the greates are consistent. You can make a Holeshot map that works for the whole season. Dirt alwas changes so it’s strange that he...
At least the greates are consistent. You can make a Holeshot map that works for the whole season. Dirt alwas changes so it’s strange that he struggles more on a ”easier” gate.
It is odd that he's struggling on the grates seeing as starting on dirt takes more technique.

Yamaha needs to figure things out because he's got the speed to win.
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Naoooch 1/16/2022 10:21am
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Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
HusqFan3 wrote:
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result...
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result and one not so good result. So to say it's a bit premature to pronounce how much better AP is on orange compared to blue is an understatement.

2) Both DF and ET3 have struggled with starts a majority of their careers. So seeing ET3 get the same 10-12th place starts he was getting on his Kawi just last year doesn't exactly serve as evidence that the bike is the problem.

Attempting to draw and conclusions after 2 races is just silly period.
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one.

DF was great with start all summer.
DF reaction was on point yesterday.
DF said on a French website than his bike is bad.

Its like 90% here just read the title and not the thread. Tipical American
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Did DV12 get good starts?
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Chris_Buehler 1/16/2022 10:54am
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Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
HusqFan3 wrote:
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result...
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result and one not so good result. So to say it's a bit premature to pronounce how much better AP is on orange compared to blue is an understatement.

2) Both DF and ET3 have struggled with starts a majority of their careers. So seeing ET3 get the same 10-12th place starts he was getting on his Kawi just last year doesn't exactly serve as evidence that the bike is the problem.

Attempting to draw and conclusions after 2 races is just silly period.
Naoooch wrote:
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one. DF was great with start all summer. DF reaction was on point yesterday...
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one.

DF was great with start all summer.
DF reaction was on point yesterday.
DF said on a French website than his bike is bad.

Its like 90% here just read the title and not the thread. Tipical American
Last year's podium doesn't count as much as this year's? Got it. Starting on dirt in mx is the same as starting on a grate for sx? Got it. You're def trolling, I'm convinced now
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SFellure33 1/16/2022 10:55am
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Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
HusqFan3 wrote:
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result...
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result and one not so good result. So to say it's a bit premature to pronounce how much better AP is on orange compared to blue is an understatement.

2) Both DF and ET3 have struggled with starts a majority of their careers. So seeing ET3 get the same 10-12th place starts he was getting on his Kawi just last year doesn't exactly serve as evidence that the bike is the problem.

Attempting to draw and conclusions after 2 races is just silly period.
Naoooch wrote:
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one. DF was great with start all summer. DF reaction was on point yesterday...
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one.

DF was great with start all summer.
DF reaction was on point yesterday.
DF said on a French website than his bike is bad.

Its like 90% here just read the title and not the thread. Tipical American
Post the link to the article where Dylan says that his bike is "bad".
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TbonesPop 1/16/2022 10:58am
1/16/2022 10:58am
Naoooch wrote:
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike. We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand. After Webb...
I hope he won't make an other season on this shitty bike.

We can add 2 more rider who shine after leaving this brand.
After Webb barcia now plessinger and Stewart have the time of their life.
Tomac is hard to pronounce because its tomac. But the kawi are in front the Honda are in front and the kt are in front.

Its a pain to watch the blucrew can't get a start. Ferrandis in the main had a good response time. But in the straight no power goes to the ground and he wasnt even top15 after the first turn.

Must be an awful feeling.
HusqFan3 wrote:
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result...
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result and one not so good result. So to say it's a bit premature to pronounce how much better AP is on orange compared to blue is an understatement.

2) Both DF and ET3 have struggled with starts a majority of their careers. So seeing ET3 get the same 10-12th place starts he was getting on his Kawi just last year doesn't exactly serve as evidence that the bike is the problem.

Attempting to draw and conclusions after 2 races is just silly period.
Naoooch wrote:
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one. DF was great with start all summer. DF reaction was on point yesterday...
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one.

DF was great with start all summer.
DF reaction was on point yesterday.
DF said on a French website than his bike is bad.

Its like 90% here just read the title and not the thread. Tipical American
STFU Frenchie
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Naoooch 1/16/2022 11:06am
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HusqFan3 wrote:
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result...
1) AP had some really good results on the "blue pig" last year including a 2nd place. So far this year he's had one good result and one not so good result. So to say it's a bit premature to pronounce how much better AP is on orange compared to blue is an understatement.

2) Both DF and ET3 have struggled with starts a majority of their careers. So seeing ET3 get the same 10-12th place starts he was getting on his Kawi just last year doesn't exactly serve as evidence that the bike is the problem.

Attempting to draw and conclusions after 2 races is just silly period.
Naoooch wrote:
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one. DF was great with start all summer. DF reaction was on point yesterday...
The last year podium of ap is nothing in comparison of this one.

DF was great with start all summer.
DF reaction was on point yesterday.
DF said on a French website than his bike is bad.

Its like 90% here just read the title and not the thread. Tipical American
Chris_Buehler wrote:
Last year's podium doesn't count as much as this year's? Got it. Starting on dirt in mx is the same as starting on a grate for...
Last year's podium doesn't count as much as this year's? Got it. Starting on dirt in mx is the same as starting on a grate for sx? Got it. You're def trolling, I'm convinced now
you definitily a redneck american who cant read.
Last year after everyone is out, a podium is less valueable yes.

https://www.lebigusa.com/videos/dylan-ferrandis-je-fais-avec-ce-que-jai…
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mattyhamz2 1/16/2022 11:12am
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Honda’s in front? They started there and went backwards. Kenny passed 1 person after her crashed and Chase went backwards. Coop hardly went anywhere during the...
Honda’s in front? They started there and went backwards. Kenny passed 1 person after her crashed and Chase went backwards. Coop hardly went anywhere during the main. Tomac and DF moved forward. If either of them could learn how to consistently start well we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
TbonesPop wrote:
Yep, and add to that last week when AP7 was non-existent on the new ride at KTM - and Webb was completely irrelevant last night. All...
Yep, and add to that last week when AP7 was non-existent on the new ride at KTM - and Webb was completely irrelevant last night. All the bikes are good bikes. It comes down to the rider and especially this year who can get a start.
Naoooch wrote:
I see you ride a yamaha ahaha. Dont be bum hurted. At their level the bike is important. Webb is a champion because of KTM. He...
I see you ride a yamaha ahaha. Dont be bum hurted. At their level the bike is important.
Webb is a champion because of KTM. He is obese this year and still in front of the pack.

AP7 on in 2nd ride on a KTM was in race for the win. Same with bambam. And malcolm have way more speed and ease in this 2 race than all year last year.

Everyone here must be blind.

Blablabla Dylan need a start...

Yes and the yamaha cant give him a start. Thats what I said in my first post.

Yesterday he had a good reaction time. But was nowhere at the end of the start. Thanks for the screenshot of the start.

PLUS I just saw a video itw of dylan on LebigUsa.com where he explains than "he is doing everything he can with what he have" And his bike lacking traction in the straigth.

Eat that all yamaha fanboy.
You can’t make a bad starter a good starter by giving him a different bike…..

I’m a good starter and I’ll be just as good on any bike you give me.

Those boys need to work on their starts. That’s all there is too it. It’s not the bike. Star/Yamaha have every bit of knowledge and technology it takes to make the bike as good or better than any other bike out there. If you think they don’t, you’re an idiot.
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wb173 1/16/2022 11:15am
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Only thing i've learned through this thread.... I won't pick Dylan "Fernandez" or "Elito" for the Pulp MX Fantasy holeshot...
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mattyhamz2 1/16/2022 11:17am
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wb173 wrote:
Only thing i've learned through this thread.... I won't pick Dylan "Fernandez" or "Elito" for the Pulp MX Fantasy holeshot...
You should have known that long before this thread 😂
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Suicidal_Tendencies 1/16/2022 11:21am
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Naoooch wrote:
you definitily a redneck american who cant read. Last year after everyone is out, a podium is less valueable yes. https://www.lebigusa.com/videos/dylan-ferrandis-je-fais-avec-ce-que-jai.html/
you definitily a redneck american who cant read.
Last year after everyone is out, a podium is less valueable yes.

https://www.lebigusa.com/videos/dylan-ferrandis-je-fais-avec-ce-que-jai…
And you can't spell. *definitely *can't *valuable

I don't blame you for rooting for your countryman, but no need to shit on Americans.
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God, I love vital. The entertainment is non stop
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TbonesPop 1/16/2022 12:32pm
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STFU Frenchie
Mugeneco wrote:
go and boo them
Oh hell no, I dig Ferrandis and Marv. I would never boo them or any rider for that matter. I just can't stand their little fanboy who likes to insult Americans. We invented the missionary position.....you're welcome
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Johnny Ringo 1/16/2022 12:40pm
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*logs on vital*

*sees the 10000th blue pig thread*

*logs off*
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ScoobyDoo81 1/16/2022 1:27pm
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You know that Tomac and Dylan qualified 1st and 2nd, right? It's not the bike. He desperately needs a start. That's all! He probably made the...
You know that Tomac and Dylan qualified 1st and 2nd, right?

It's not the bike. He desperately needs a start. That's all! He probably made the most passes out of all the riders.
Couldn't have said it any better!! When DF14 locks down a good start he will get a win not a doubt in my mind. It's just a matter of when he will get those starts dialed...
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Naoooch 1/16/2022 3:44pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
*logs on vital*

*sees the 10000th blue pig thread*

*logs off*
But before have to be an attention whore and opt in.
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Must be hard for this guy to walk everywhere with a helmet on and coming home from the short bus. Say a prayer for those less fortunate...
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Bruce372 wrote:
Is the star Yamaha 450 running a cable or hydro clutch? Only suzuki and Yamaha don't come stock with hydro, correct?
The rider picks what he wants. He sucks at starts currently.
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