2021 was a good year for Yamaha!

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So they won

AMA 250 east and west
Ama 450 out doors

Mx2 world FIM championship

FIM world Superbike championship after 7 years of kawi dominance

FIM motogp championship

Lots of excitement about their 2022 two strokes😍

Fair play and Bravo to Yamaha!!!👏👏👏

I am tempted to get a yz250 now its revamped.
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11/26/2021 9:04pm Edited Date/Time 11/26/2021 9:06pm
BSB with Tarran Mckenzie on the 25th anniversary of his dad winning on Yamaha as well
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The 250 has its 3rd set of plastics.
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11/27/2021 5:23am
They also won EMX250 and EMX2T with Fantic (and were leading EMX125 before Osterhagen got injured)
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And also the World SuperSport championship (Aegerter on a Ten Kate Racing Yamaha).
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This must be mega painful for HRC considering the effort and money going in to the red pig for a few years now!
I'm sure they're crying into their '16, '19 and '20 world championship cups
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This must be mega painful for HRC considering the effort and money going in to the red pig for a few years now!
GrapeApe wrote:
I'm sure they're crying into their '16, '19 and '20 world championship cups
What about the Sx and Mx championships in the AMA? Oh yeah…. Still waiting
11/28/2021 9:04am
Bruce372 wrote:
So they won AMA 250 east and west Ama 450 out doors Mx2 world FIM championship FIM world Superbike championship after 7 years of kawi dominance...
So they won

AMA 250 east and west
Ama 450 out doors

Mx2 world FIM championship

FIM world Superbike championship after 7 years of kawi dominance

FIM motogp championship

Lots of excitement about their 2022 two strokes😍

Fair play and Bravo to Yamaha!!!👏👏👏

I am tempted to get a yz250 now its revamped.
Excuse me Sir,

You have forgotten a few other important ones

Yamaha has also won this year again in

Motoamerica superbike class (also Yamaha won every race except one I believe, YFZ R1)

Pro mx atv championship (YFZ450 Chad Weinen)

Womens wxc gncc championship (Yz250f Becca Sheets)

GNCC XC1 ATV championship (yfz450 Walker Fowler)

American flat track productions twin championship (mt09 Cory Texter)

AMA National enduro Championship (Yz 450 Stewart Baylor)

and many mini o's and LL's championships

I'm sure i still missed a few also


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I hear Piano sales were up too
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11/28/2021 10:19am
Looks like Ramono just crushed mini os. Wonder if this kid will line up at round 1 of the nationals this season like what they did with cooper Webb after he dominated mini os and the spring nationals before turning pro.
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yz133rider wrote:
The 250 has its 3rd set of plastics.
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts interchange from 99 till present. to me, that is a key selling point of the yz, you know you are getting a machine with great aftermarket support and a never ending fountain of parts availability.
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yz133rider wrote:
The 250 has its 3rd set of plastics.
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts...
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts interchange from 99 till present. to me, that is a key selling point of the yz, you know you are getting a machine with great aftermarket support and a never ending fountain of parts availability.
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic.

But it’s same price as Gasgas and within stones throw of ktm and even Tm for a bike with no development. It’s just shameful to me.
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11/28/2021 11:54am
yz133rider wrote:
The 250 has its 3rd set of plastics.
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts...
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts interchange from 99 till present. to me, that is a key selling point of the yz, you know you are getting a machine with great aftermarket support and a never ending fountain of parts availability.
yz133rider wrote:
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic. But...
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic.

But it’s same price as Gasgas and within stones throw of ktm and even Tm for a bike with no development. It’s just shameful to me.
You're right, for what it is, it needs to be cheaper.
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Money wrote:
Looks like Ramono just crushed mini os. Wonder if this kid will line up at round 1 of the nationals this season like what they did...
Looks like Ramono just crushed mini os. Wonder if this kid will line up at round 1 of the nationals this season like what they did with cooper Webb after he dominated mini os and the spring nationals before turning pro.
I doubt it. They're stacked in pro and Ramano just switched from B to A. Possibly they follow the same plan they did with Kitchen and have him line up somewhere around race 5 to 7 to get his feet wet.
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chevy won the nascar championship. I am thinking its time to buy one so I can win too!
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This must be mega painful for HRC considering the effort and money going in to the red pig for a few years now!
GrapeApe wrote:
I'm sure they're crying into their '16, '19 and '20 world championship cups
Zycki11 wrote:
What about the Sx and Mx championships in the AMA? Oh yeah…. Still waiting
Doesn't Jett Lawrence ride for HRC..?

And both Lawrence brothers finished the outdoor season 1&3 in the championship for HRC.
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decano51 wrote:
Doesn't Jett Lawrence ride for HRC..?

And both Lawrence brothers finished the outdoor season 1&3 in the championship for HRC.
If I said to you “the BLUE pig”, which bike would you automatically think I’m talking about?

Correct!! The YZ450… and why was it referred to as the ‘pig’ for a number of years?? Yes, it was relatively unsuccessful. (Of course it has now changed)
DESPITE, the small bore YZF being hugely successful in SX & MX.

So if I say “RED pig” do you think I’m talking about the championship winning 250F or the only 450 four stroke never to win a SX championship?
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yz133rider wrote:
The 250 has its 3rd set of plastics.
That's 1 more set of plastics over that rmz450 you won't have people talking bad (objectively) about! Cool
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11/28/2021 3:48pm
Bruce372 wrote:
So they won AMA 250 east and west Ama 450 out doors Mx2 world FIM championship FIM world Superbike championship after 7 years of kawi dominance...
So they won

AMA 250 east and west
Ama 450 out doors

Mx2 world FIM championship

FIM world Superbike championship after 7 years of kawi dominance

FIM motogp championship

Lots of excitement about their 2022 two strokes😍

Fair play and Bravo to Yamaha!!!👏👏👏

I am tempted to get a yz250 now its revamped.
Excuse me Sir, You have forgotten a few other important ones Yamaha has also won this year again in Motoamerica superbike class (also Yamaha won every...
Excuse me Sir,

You have forgotten a few other important ones

Yamaha has also won this year again in

Motoamerica superbike class (also Yamaha won every race except one I believe, YFZ R1)

Pro mx atv championship (YFZ450 Chad Weinen)

Womens wxc gncc championship (Yz250f Becca Sheets)

GNCC XC1 ATV championship (yfz450 Walker Fowler)

American flat track productions twin championship (mt09 Cory Texter)

AMA National enduro Championship (Yz 450 Stewart Baylor)

and many mini o's and LL's championships

I'm sure i still missed a few also


Thanks mate!

Some amazing achievements, but to be fair some on your list are hardly MotoGP or a champship raced around the world.
11/28/2021 4:20pm
Bruce372 wrote:
So they won AMA 250 east and west Ama 450 out doors Mx2 world FIM championship FIM world Superbike championship after 7 years of kawi dominance...
So they won

AMA 250 east and west
Ama 450 out doors

Mx2 world FIM championship

FIM world Superbike championship after 7 years of kawi dominance

FIM motogp championship

Lots of excitement about their 2022 two strokes😍

Fair play and Bravo to Yamaha!!!👏👏👏

I am tempted to get a yz250 now its revamped.
Excuse me Sir, You have forgotten a few other important ones Yamaha has also won this year again in Motoamerica superbike class (also Yamaha won every...
Excuse me Sir,

You have forgotten a few other important ones

Yamaha has also won this year again in

Motoamerica superbike class (also Yamaha won every race except one I believe, YFZ R1)

Pro mx atv championship (YFZ450 Chad Weinen)

Womens wxc gncc championship (Yz250f Becca Sheets)

GNCC XC1 ATV championship (yfz450 Walker Fowler)

American flat track productions twin championship (mt09 Cory Texter)

AMA National enduro Championship (Yz 450 Stewart Baylor)

and many mini o's and LL's championships

I'm sure i still missed a few also


Bruce372 wrote:
Thanks mate!

Some amazing achievements, but to be fair some on your list are hardly MotoGP or a champship raced around the world.
Yes you are correct.

But just trying to shine more light on your point of a dominant year for Yamaha.
Although that's nothing new for Yamaha. Just nobody talks about that because all the professional internet keyboard warriors give the blue pig such a bad rap since it has won supercross and motocross championships and wins since its birth.
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decano51 wrote:
Doesn't Jett Lawrence ride for HRC..?

And both Lawrence brothers finished the outdoor season 1&3 in the championship for HRC.
If I said to you “the BLUE pig”, which bike would you automatically think I’m talking about? Correct!! The YZ450… and why was it referred to...
If I said to you “the BLUE pig”, which bike would you automatically think I’m talking about?

Correct!! The YZ450… and why was it referred to as the ‘pig’ for a number of years?? Yes, it was relatively unsuccessful. (Of course it has now changed)
DESPITE, the small bore YZF being hugely successful in SX & MX.

So if I say “RED pig” do you think I’m talking about the championship winning 250F or the only 450 four stroke never to win a SX championship?
Agree to a point and fair call.

But hard to call it a red pig when it wins racers. just the rider keeps choking come back half of the season haha

The CRF450 has won more SX racers in the past 5 years than the YZF450
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11/28/2021 5:34pm
decano51 wrote:
Doesn't Jett Lawrence ride for HRC..?

And both Lawrence brothers finished the outdoor season 1&3 in the championship for HRC.
If I said to you “the BLUE pig”, which bike would you automatically think I’m talking about? Correct!! The YZ450… and why was it referred to...
If I said to you “the BLUE pig”, which bike would you automatically think I’m talking about?

Correct!! The YZ450… and why was it referred to as the ‘pig’ for a number of years?? Yes, it was relatively unsuccessful. (Of course it has now changed)
DESPITE, the small bore YZF being hugely successful in SX & MX.

So if I say “RED pig” do you think I’m talking about the championship winning 250F or the only 450 four stroke never to win a SX championship?
decano51 wrote:
Agree to a point and fair call. But hard to call it a red pig when it wins racers. just the rider keeps choking come back...
Agree to a point and fair call.

But hard to call it a red pig when it wins racers. just the rider keeps choking come back half of the season haha

The CRF450 has won more SX racers in the past 5 years than the YZF450
But yet can’t grab a title since 2004. People have fun with the blu pig debacle. So others have fun at the red can’t finish debacle. Don’t forget the original Suzuki gay rider debacle.
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yz133rider wrote:
The 250 has its 3rd set of plastics.
Bruce372 wrote:
That's 1 more set of plastics over that rmz450 you won't have people talking bad (objectively) about! Cool
I know that your kinda joking, you wouldn’t believe how many people think the Suzuki hasn’t changed since nam. The YZ engine has been the same since 1999. Back when cell phones came in a briefcase and Limp Bizcuit was on the radio.
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11/29/2021 12:16pm
yz133rider wrote:
The 250 has its 3rd set of plastics.
Bruce372 wrote:
That's 1 more set of plastics over that rmz450 you won't have people talking bad (objectively) about! Cool
Sandusky26 wrote:
I know that your kinda joking, you wouldn’t believe how many people think the Suzuki hasn’t changed since nam. The YZ engine has been the same...
I know that your kinda joking, you wouldn’t believe how many people think the Suzuki hasn’t changed since nam. The YZ engine has been the same since 1999. Back when cell phones came in a briefcase and Limp Bizcuit was on the radio.
You could get a pretty nice flip phone in 99.
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yz133rider wrote:
The 250 has its 3rd set of plastics.
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts...
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts interchange from 99 till present. to me, that is a key selling point of the yz, you know you are getting a machine with great aftermarket support and a never ending fountain of parts availability.
yz133rider wrote:
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic. But...
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic.

But it’s same price as Gasgas and within stones throw of ktm and even Tm for a bike with no development. It’s just shameful to me.
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money on these bikes, relatively speaking
11/30/2021 5:50pm
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts...
honestly, I hope it stays that way, just keep updating the plastics and running gear. I like being able to have basically all the motor parts interchange from 99 till present. to me, that is a key selling point of the yz, you know you are getting a machine with great aftermarket support and a never ending fountain of parts availability.
yz133rider wrote:
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic. But...
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic.

But it’s same price as Gasgas and within stones throw of ktm and even Tm for a bike with no development. It’s just shameful to me.
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money...
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money on these bikes, relatively speaking
How dare someone make some money.
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11/30/2021 6:23pm
yz133rider wrote:
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic. But...
If they sold it at some sort of discount considering it has nearly no updates since ‘05 I could get on board with your logic.

But it’s same price as Gasgas and within stones throw of ktm and even Tm for a bike with no development. It’s just shameful to me.
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money...
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money on these bikes, relatively speaking
How dare someone make some money.
That isn’t the point lol.

How dare someone charge as if it’s a cutting edge race bike when it’s the same engine from 99 and same bike from 05 with 2 restyles since then lol.
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11/30/2021 7:27pm
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money...
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money on these bikes, relatively speaking
How dare someone make some money.
yz133rider wrote:
That isn’t the point lol. How dare someone charge as if it’s a cutting edge race bike when it’s the same engine from 99 and same...
That isn’t the point lol.

How dare someone charge as if it’s a cutting edge race bike when it’s the same engine from 99 and same bike from 05 with 2 restyles since then lol.
haha that is a possible valid point.

but a couple things to ponder on though. maybe why the bikes are at that price point that they are.

1) don't fix something that isn't broke
2) has updated suspension specs that has come the four strokes
3) has updated brakes
4) the 2022 has actually some good improvements
5) still a competitive bike even at a pro/a class and would be imo competitive if they would make the pro supercross/mx series an actual 250cc class.
6) can't knock someone that's continuing to keep the 2 strokes in production
7) lol and their cutting edge race bike is around $1,000 and $2,000 respectively more. so there's your discount.

Here's another scary thought and correct me if I'm wrong but i'snt the current rm85 actually the same bike with no updates since Eli Tomac raced them as an amateur?
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I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money...
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money on these bikes, relatively speaking
How dare someone make some money.
yz133rider wrote:
That isn’t the point lol. How dare someone charge as if it’s a cutting edge race bike when it’s the same engine from 99 and same...
That isn’t the point lol.

How dare someone charge as if it’s a cutting edge race bike when it’s the same engine from 99 and same bike from 05 with 2 restyles since then lol.
Still seems to be winning races, maybe the European bikes aren't as advanced as everyone thinks they are...
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I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money...
I would agree here, I don't know msrp in past years to plug into an inflation calculator but I would think that they make good money on these bikes, relatively speaking
How dare someone make some money.
yz133rider wrote:
That isn’t the point lol. How dare someone charge as if it’s a cutting edge race bike when it’s the same engine from 99 and same...
That isn’t the point lol.

How dare someone charge as if it’s a cutting edge race bike when it’s the same engine from 99 and same bike from 05 with 2 restyles since then lol.
I think what it really shows is how awesome the YZ’s were when they were first introduced in ‘05.
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