MXGP Rumours/Silly season

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11/20/2021 4:34pm Edited Date/Time 11/20/2021 4:34pm
What is Febvre doing next year if the Kawi team is going away?
Bidirella wrote:
The current team is stopping or mayby forced to stop. IceOne is taking over the Factory Kawasaki support, they’ve runnend MXGP Husqvarna since day one. MXGP...
The current team is stopping or mayby forced to stop. IceOne is taking over the Factory Kawasaki support, they’ve runnend MXGP Husqvarna since day one.

MXGP Husqvarna is being taking over by the same “boss” who is running the 250 team now. So they have 250 and MXGP in house.

Before Iceone turned factory they’ve started as a Kawasaki team in 2009/10.

Febvre still will be on Factory Kawasaki, but a different team and people.
Tim Mathys from Standing Construct will run the 450 bikes and nestaan the 250 team (Husqvarna). Those two teams are almost fully funded by their owners so it doesn't care KTM Group as much if they stay.
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11/20/2021 5:48pm
What is Febvre doing next year if the Kawi team is going away?
Bidirella wrote:
The current team is stopping or mayby forced to stop. IceOne is taking over the Factory Kawasaki support, they’ve runnend MXGP Husqvarna since day one. MXGP...
The current team is stopping or mayby forced to stop. IceOne is taking over the Factory Kawasaki support, they’ve runnend MXGP Husqvarna since day one.

MXGP Husqvarna is being taking over by the same “boss” who is running the 250 team now. So they have 250 and MXGP in house.

Before Iceone turned factory they’ve started as a Kawasaki team in 2009/10.

Febvre still will be on Factory Kawasaki, but a different team and people.
Cool, thanks for the info. Will this new Kawi team still be sponsored by monster energy?
I heard romurs earlier This year, i think after Latvia, that monster Will not be a part of the Kawasaki Factory squad in MXGP 2022. And that they put it all in the Yamaha factory teams, they really want the mxgp title, aswell they signed Tomac in us. I also heard that ROCKSTAR would not be a part of the factory Husky MXGP team next year (only mx2) and that the new Kawasaki team would have ROCKSTAR energy support. But i have not heard anything about This since then.
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11/20/2021 11:39pm
moto804 wrote:
Any chance Cairoli comes over to the US for a few Nationals to prep to wear the #1 plate for Italy in the Nation's? I could...
Any chance Cairoli comes over to the US for a few Nationals to prep to wear the #1 plate for Italy in the Nation's?

I could see Southwick, Millville, and Washougal being up his alley.
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I don't know, but it would be cool to see him over stateside for a couple races.
He have a plans for US.
But what kind of plants I can't tell you yet.
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11/20/2021 11:58pm
philG wrote:
I am surprised he went back to F&H after last time, the bike put him out for half a season after it locked up at Matterley...
I am surprised he went back to F&H after last time, the bike put him out for half a season after it locked up at Matterley.

But i guess you gotta go where the rides are, F&H have had a shocking year , and they need some kind of redemptionin 2022.

Will there be a second 450 Husky with Olsen ?

Who will be on the second Beta , can see that being a decent seat.

Who gets Stribos's ride, assuming they still run 3 guys.

What ive heard is that FH was fed up and wanted a fresh start with guys that dont complain. Which apparently is the impression they got from Beaton when he rode for them.

The only thing that surprises me is that they go mxgp & mx2.

As for Strijbos his ride, dont know if he will be replaced. It seemed like he brought his personal sponsors.
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11/21/2021 12:04pm
Bidirella wrote:
The current team is stopping or mayby forced to stop. IceOne is taking over the Factory Kawasaki support, they’ve runnend MXGP Husqvarna since day one. MXGP...
The current team is stopping or mayby forced to stop. IceOne is taking over the Factory Kawasaki support, they’ve runnend MXGP Husqvarna since day one.

MXGP Husqvarna is being taking over by the same “boss” who is running the 250 team now. So they have 250 and MXGP in house.

Before Iceone turned factory they’ve started as a Kawasaki team in 2009/10.

Febvre still will be on Factory Kawasaki, but a different team and people.
Husqvarna 450 effort will be held by team Standing Construct next year. With Bogers and Jonass on the bike.
Not the same team as Husky current 250 effort.
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11/21/2021 10:40pm
Man Bogers going from brand to brand every year and still improving.
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11/21/2021 10:45pm
So when will we know who gets the second Kawasaki spot?
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11/21/2021 11:28pm Edited Date/Time 11/22/2021 12:41am
philG wrote:
I never saw anything from him that justified an HRC 450 ride , he had a few decent 250 rides, but i would have taken Vlaanderen...
I never saw anything from him that justified an HRC 450 ride , he had a few decent 250 rides, but i would have taken Vlaanderen over him.
You might've forgotten that he went really good in the pre season races in 2020 and went 3-7 for 5th at the opening round, then dislocated his shoulder in the first moto at rd2
Then after checking the results he hung around the top ten while recovering
remembering rds 3 4 5 were at Latvia 3 rounds in 2 weeks
4th in the second moto at rd7
4-8 rd8
6-7 rd10
4-8 rd11
Then broke his wrist at Spain, which he's had problems with since.. which could be worrying
I know you weren't having a go at him but just wanted to underline his impressive results in his rookie year..
But heyzuess he's gotta stay on the thing next year
11/21/2021 11:40pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2021 11:51pm
Motofinne wrote:
So when will we know who gets the second Kawasaki spot?
A calculated guess = Vlaanderen
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11/22/2021 1:19am
Motofinne wrote:
So when will we know who gets the second Kawasaki spot?
Boomslang wrote:
A calculated guess = Vlaanderen
Time running out on that. Pressure elsewhere to sign
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11/23/2021 10:12am
philG wrote:
I never saw anything from him that justified an HRC 450 ride , he had a few decent 250 rides, but i would have taken Vlaanderen...
I never saw anything from him that justified an HRC 450 ride , he had a few decent 250 rides, but i would have taken Vlaanderen over him.
jemcee wrote:
You might've forgotten that he went really good in the pre season races in 2020 and went 3-7 for 5th at the opening round, then dislocated...
You might've forgotten that he went really good in the pre season races in 2020 and went 3-7 for 5th at the opening round, then dislocated his shoulder in the first moto at rd2
Then after checking the results he hung around the top ten while recovering
remembering rds 3 4 5 were at Latvia 3 rounds in 2 weeks
4th in the second moto at rd7
4-8 rd8
6-7 rd10
4-8 rd11
Then broke his wrist at Spain, which he's had problems with since.. which could be worrying
I know you weren't having a go at him but just wanted to underline his impressive results in his rookie year..
But heyzuess he's gotta stay on the thing next year
Hey, he was solid on the 450 when he was running, but i didnt see what got him there from 250, he was OK , but it seemed a bit of a stretch to land an HRC 450 ride from what he did on the 250.
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11/23/2021 12:14pm
Motofinne wrote:
So when will we know who gets the second Kawasaki spot?
Who will be the highest bidder? Or is IceOne taking a different route..
11/23/2021 12:29pm
Bidirella wrote:
Who will be the highest bidder? Or is IceOne taking a different route..
Same route than team KRT this season with Monticelli ?
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11/23/2021 12:30pm
Motofinne wrote:
So when will we know who gets the second Kawasaki spot?
They have now said that a decision will be made on November 30, if not before.
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11/23/2021 1:29pm
Bidirella wrote:
Who will be the highest bidder? Or is IceOne taking a different route..
Same route than team KRT this season with Monticelli ?
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I think the decision to pull the plug on KRT , may have been due to them hiring Monticelli... who i have to say is a decent rider, but not factory material, but certainly worthy of good kit. It sent the wrong signals IMO


Obviously Kimi Raikkonen loves his MX, and wants to run his own ship, i imagine that was difficult under the KTM umbrella, now with KHI they are the single Factory effort, they are well placed to go at it .

They have a clean slate , and Romain Febvre on the books, i dont expect them to hold back with a second rider through budget, and maybe they would benefit from a third rider to help develop the bikes.

I dont see Ice One taking Boisrame because he was at F&H , otherwise they have no dog in the fight, so far as Febvre is under contract , and they will want to pick the second rider, so i think that leaves Vlaanderen and Watson .

I still dont get the fact that Honda let Vlaanderen go, over Evans, and maybe Kawasaki will wonder why too.

That leaves Watson, who is unlucky to be out of a seat, who worked with Febvre and Vimond at Yamaha , and the family have history with the team with Nathan, when they ran him on a third bike. I know they were keen to keep him, but budget from Husqvarna wasnt forthcoming to do it, KTM were bursting at the seams with riders, and they didnt need a third rider at Husky,

We will know soon enough.

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11/23/2021 2:22pm
Well Vlaanderen results the past 2 years are imo a good indication of why HRC made the right decision not keeping him. Three top 5 finishes in 2 years.
The mistake was not picking up the checkbook and sign guys like Desalle, Paulin or Anstie.
11/23/2021 2:50pm
Vlaanderen stays with Gebben is what the team said. They also gonna run a 2 rider team. Not decided wich one, its who brings the most money.
Monticelli goes JM Honda
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11/23/2021 2:53pm
roninho wrote:
Well Vlaanderen results the past 2 years are imo a good indication of why HRC made the right decision not keeping him. Three top 5 finishes...
Well Vlaanderen results the past 2 years are imo a good indication of why HRC made the right decision not keeping him. Three top 5 finishes in 2 years.
The mistake was not picking up the checkbook and sign guys like Desalle, Paulin or Anstie.
I will say again, who the hell are you expecting him to beat, week in week out.

Any guy nailing top 10 scores on non factory bikes, is bloody decent, its a deep field, and when you have 15 riders capable of finishing 6-10, on any given day, every one is a start away from a top 6 , or a bad start away from 16th.

As it stands now you have

Herlings
Gajser
Febvre
Prado
Cairoli
Seewer

All capable of winning a race.

Then

Coldenhoff
Jonass

Then unlikely but there anyway

Lupino

Then you have the next group

Vlanderen
Bogers
Watson
Olsen

And then

Jacobi
Van Horebeeck
Van Doninck
Paturel ( who was decent end of season)

and then
Forato
Jasikonis
and the rest.

Dont forget we only had one Honda and one Kawaski for half a year , who you would expect to be where Condenhoff is.

So on form 7-10 is a good result , for anyone who isnt in the top 8 names on that list.

And its interesting to note, Boisrame DNF'd 4 of the 10 races he started and was beaten by Dylan Wright in the 5 race points battle they had.

Also fair to assume that he was asked to get out there and give support to Febvre, and not tug about in 15th 'to learn the bike' . His MX2 form has been patchy to say the least, he wasnt doing much this season pre injury, in what is a less than deep MX2 field.
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11/23/2021 2:59pm
We will know very soon (EICMA) if Renaux stays in MX2 or not for next year...
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11/23/2021 5:05pm
The Aussie Mitch Evans signed a Multi year deal with HRC alongside Gasjer in 2020.
Keen to see him Healthy again. top 10 rider and was battling around the top 5 pretty consistently
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11/23/2021 6:33pm
why dont Honda have a title sponsor? or are they just reluctant and want to do it themselves? i dont understand it even in WSBK they have no sponsor just go it alone...
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11/23/2021 10:27pm
I heard Lupino to Beta
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11/23/2021 11:03pm
Bastian Bøgh Damm stays with WZ KTM for another season.
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Renaux officially moves to MXGP, he signed a 2 year deal with Monster Energy Yamaha.
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11/24/2021 12:15am
2 years huh. At his age, i would've wanted at least an option for a third year that automatically kicks in if certain results gets met by him.

Anyways, it will be very interesting to see what he can do on the 450.
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Motofinne wrote:
2 years huh. At his age, i would've wanted at least an option for a third year that automatically kicks in if certain results gets met...
2 years huh. At his age, i would've wanted at least an option for a third year that automatically kicks in if certain results gets met by him.

Anyways, it will be very interesting to see what he can do on the 450.
Love it, hope he crushes it.

11/24/2021 1:12am
DeStouwer wrote:
Bastian Bøgh Damm stays with WZ KTM for another season.
Haarup probably with team 114 Honda for 2022...
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DeStouwer wrote:
Bastian Bøgh Damm stays with WZ KTM for another season.
Haarup probably with team 114 Honda for 2022...
Not Dixon?
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11/24/2021 2:25am
F&H confirming a new rider on Friday

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