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Cortami79 11/12/2021 10:43am
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philG 11/12/2021 3:08pm
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roninho wrote:
I would be suprrised if Frederiksen and Toendel don't end up at a decent team at EMX250. 5th & 6th in the championship, i mean they...
I would be suprrised if Frederiksen and Toendel don't end up at a decent team at EMX250. 5th & 6th in the championship, i mean they should be picked up by someone.
Talviku i don't know, he apparently has nothing lined up right now according to his insta. He was great in '20, but didnt do much this year for whatever reason.
philG wrote:
Fredericksen is outstanding IMO, but his gate drops are awful... he is the next Forato, needs to be on a 450
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
And Forato has done nothing this season on the 450 which is very surprising.
You think/?

He got injured , and then had a slow recovery, but has run top 10 a few times,

He has no MX2 career to speak of, but he could easily be the next Clement Desalle or Jasikonis.

Where would you expect him to be, because anywhere in the top 15 is bloody decent,

Needs a good winter , and come back fit and ready ..


Remember what Lupino was like

Forato will be better
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Mugeneco 11/13/2021 1:11am
11/13/2021 1:11am
who is going to replace Jasikonis at Ice One ??
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DeStouwer 11/13/2021 1:43am
11/13/2021 1:43am
Mike Gwerder stays with WZ KTM. EMX250 in 2022, MX2 in 2023.
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DeStouwer 11/13/2021 2:49am
11/13/2021 2:49am
Forato and Adamo stay with SM Action GasGas.
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roninho 11/13/2021 8:55am
11/13/2021 8:55am
There has been a lot of talk about the impact of covid on sponsorship. What teams are going to quit after the season?
- Assomotor
- Hostetler ?
- ?
THE mx addict 11/13/2021 9:00am
11/13/2021 9:00am
Mugeneco wrote:
who is going to replace Jasikonis at Ice One ??
Watson, Vlaanderen or Boisramé...
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THE mx addict 11/13/2021 9:23am
11/13/2021 9:23am
Rubini probably to SR Honda next year.
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EV901 11/13/2021 11:33am
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roninho wrote:
I would be suprrised if Frederiksen and Toendel don't end up at a decent team at EMX250. 5th & 6th in the championship, i mean they...
I would be suprrised if Frederiksen and Toendel don't end up at a decent team at EMX250. 5th & 6th in the championship, i mean they should be picked up by someone.
Talviku i don't know, he apparently has nothing lined up right now according to his insta. He was great in '20, but didnt do much this year for whatever reason.
Supposedly Talviku has some offers, but from what is heard, nothing to write home about.
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philG 11/13/2021 12:06pm
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EV901 wrote:
Supposedly Talviku has some offers, but from what is heard, nothing to write home about.
He is one of a number of guys that just isnt good enough, despite being a bloody good rider.

Too many EMX 250 guys that should be in MX2.

He needed a break out year and he hasnt had one.
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MXMattii 11/13/2021 3:13pm
11/13/2021 3:13pm
MX2 and EMX250 should be an open class. With two types of riders. The ones going for the "World Championship" are in and race all events (and are non-eligible for the "European Cup") and riders who race only the European rounds are two championship standings the normal WC and the EC standing. With open qualifications it would raise the level of the MX2 class and some riders for the "European Cup" will qualify and score points on sand tracks and others on real hard pack.
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roninho 11/14/2021 12:26am
11/14/2021 12:26am
They should just lift the age limit in mx2 and keep it in emx250.
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roninho wrote:
They should just lift the age limit in mx2 and keep it in emx250.
I think the same, my option =
125cc till 17y
250cc till 22y
MX2 till 25y
Open = Open

+ I prefer a Superlicence for World Championship, minimum 5 till 10 EMX250 points for example
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Last Braaap 11/14/2021 4:11am
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roninho wrote:
They should just lift the age limit in mx2 and keep it in emx250.
Get out with that witchcraft of reason!!!

How that fancy "reason" of yours will pay for papa Guiseppe's new yacht? huh? You gonna pay us and you gonna like that. We will squeeze your worthless body for every penny and ditch you the moment you turn 23.
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DeStouwer 11/15/2021 6:31am
11/15/2021 6:31am
Van de Moosdijk to Rockstar Husqvarna is official.
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Finnish_Flash_62 11/15/2021 11:54am
11/15/2021 11:54am
Weckman apparently has a MX2 ride lined up.
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cesar_rc4 11/15/2021 12:22pm
11/15/2021 12:22pm
DeStouwer wrote:
Van de Moosdijk to Rockstar Husqvarna is official.
And looks like Maxime Grau has another year in husky.

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Ray_MXS 11/16/2021 8:13am
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Motofinne wrote:
Östlund continues with JK Racing Yamaha.

Nice! He surprised me how decent he was on that bike. He had been going backwards quite a bit in MX2 the last few years so didn't have big hopes. Also the fact that Anton Gole kept pace with him in the Swedish championship. But Östlund was sooo much faster than Gole in MXGP it wasn't even close.
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MXMattii 11/16/2021 8:56am
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Finnish_Flash_62 wrote:
Weckman apparently has a MX2 ride lined up.
Honda HRC MX2?
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themrtoad 11/16/2021 10:13am
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Ray_MXS wrote:
Nice! He surprised me how decent he was on that bike. He had been going backwards quite a bit in MX2 the last few years so...
Nice! He surprised me how decent he was on that bike. He had been going backwards quite a bit in MX2 the last few years so didn't have big hopes. Also the fact that Anton Gole kept pace with him in the Swedish championship. But Östlund was sooo much faster than Gole in MXGP it wasn't even close.
Surprised me too. Judging by his performances in the latter stages of his mx2-career I wouldn’t bet any money he could even score points in mxgp. He was way better than expected, even on hardpack!
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themac100 11/16/2021 10:14am
11/16/2021 10:14am
Isak Gifting signed for Hitachi KTM for 2022, 2023
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dagucis 11/16/2021 1:01pm
11/16/2021 1:01pm
Cairoli will test GasGas bikes and will race some MXGP Italian rounds.
Prado - just rumours - GasGas
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-MAVERICK- 11/16/2021 1:09pm
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dagucis wrote:
Cairoli will test GasGas bikes and will race some MXGP Italian rounds.
Prado - just rumours - GasGas
Apparently Cairoli also has something in the works with Triumph as well.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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MBR 11/16/2021 1:18pm
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Finnish_Flash_62 wrote:
Weckman apparently has a MX2 ride lined up.
MXMattii wrote:
Honda HRC MX2?
No, but good deal anyways.
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Cortami79 11/18/2021 2:51am
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SR Motoblouz with Weckman & Rubini MX2. Paturel will be MXGP.
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DeStouwer 11/18/2021 2:52am
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Rubini and Weckman confirmed with Honda Motoblouz
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philG 11/18/2021 3:19am
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Ray_MXS wrote:
Nice! He surprised me how decent he was on that bike. He had been going backwards quite a bit in MX2 the last few years so...
Nice! He surprised me how decent he was on that bike. He had been going backwards quite a bit in MX2 the last few years so didn't have big hopes. Also the fact that Anton Gole kept pace with him in the Swedish championship. But Östlund was sooo much faster than Gole in MXGP it wasn't even close.
themrtoad wrote:
Surprised me too. Judging by his performances in the latter stages of his mx2-career I wouldn’t bet any money he could even score points in mxgp...
Surprised me too. Judging by his performances in the latter stages of his mx2-career I wouldn’t bet any money he could even score points in mxgp. He was way better than expected, even on hardpack!
It says that unless you are a factory bike in MX2, you cant really show anything.

Without factory horsepower, you dont get out of the gate, and if you dont get out of the gate , you are mired with 15 other guys that dont have the power either.

This is why the likes of Forato, and Fredericksen need to be on a 450 NOW.. because they are too big for a 250, and will do nothing in MX2 without factory engines. Forato realised that , Fredericksen needs to .

We saw Olsen and Watson both struggle in 250 because of their size , Ostlund was just doing the same , but on a much slower bike.

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Bidirella 11/18/2021 3:29am
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philG wrote:
It says that unless you are a factory bike in MX2, you cant really show anything. Without factory horsepower, you dont get out of the gate...
It says that unless you are a factory bike in MX2, you cant really show anything.

Without factory horsepower, you dont get out of the gate, and if you dont get out of the gate , you are mired with 15 other guys that dont have the power either.

This is why the likes of Forato, and Fredericksen need to be on a 450 NOW.. because they are too big for a 250, and will do nothing in MX2 without factory engines. Forato realised that , Fredericksen needs to .

We saw Olsen and Watson both struggle in 250 because of their size , Ostlund was just doing the same , but on a much slower bike.

Olsen and Watson struggle in MXGP to.

Expected allot more out off those guys because of the reason you said, but in real time this season what have they really showed?

They’ve not been bad, but i expected more results upfront and more raw speed, especially the raw speed lacked quite allot of both.

So a 450 ride is not a guarantee for succes and results.
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philG 11/18/2021 4:39am
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philG wrote:
It says that unless you are a factory bike in MX2, you cant really show anything. Without factory horsepower, you dont get out of the gate...
It says that unless you are a factory bike in MX2, you cant really show anything.

Without factory horsepower, you dont get out of the gate, and if you dont get out of the gate , you are mired with 15 other guys that dont have the power either.

This is why the likes of Forato, and Fredericksen need to be on a 450 NOW.. because they are too big for a 250, and will do nothing in MX2 without factory engines. Forato realised that , Fredericksen needs to .

We saw Olsen and Watson both struggle in 250 because of their size , Ostlund was just doing the same , but on a much slower bike.

Bidirella wrote:
Olsen and Watson struggle in MXGP to. Expected allot more out off those guys because of the reason you said, but in real time this season...
Olsen and Watson struggle in MXGP to.

Expected allot more out off those guys because of the reason you said, but in real time this season what have they really showed?

They’ve not been bad, but i expected more results upfront and more raw speed, especially the raw speed lacked quite allot of both.

So a 450 ride is not a guarantee for succes and results.
Struggled??

Who do expect they will be beating that they arent.. both have run top 10 , both have had injuries, both have run well with a start. Olsen has been solid, Watson has run both of his vastly more experienced team mates hard in races.

They have both had decent rookie years in 450, against a backdrop of Covid IMO.

Also both of them are racers, so the short qualifying format , and no qualy race has hurt them hard, as well as a relative lack of track time on most of the tracks compared to everyone else on a 450.

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