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Why is everyone dissin a 250sx champ?
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Dude's wasted so many sponsor's time and money. Looks like he's done the same to the Sheriff's Dept that hired and trained him. Not surprised at...
Dude's wasted so many sponsor's time and money. Looks like he's done the same to the Sheriff's Dept that hired and trained him. Not surprised at all.
Did he actually work for a sheriff department? Or just go to an academy? A lot of states you pay for your own academy and it doesn’t mean you have a job. PA is like that. Sheriffs departments in PA don’t have arrest powers and their academy is pretty short. They basically serve civil paperwork and guard the courthouses. Other states are different and they have full arrest powers and are the same as police but have county jurisdiction. I have no idea what situation JH was in. A lot of us just hear sheriffs Dept and automatically think they’re police.

Before anyone jumps me, I know Allegheny county sheriffs office has arrest powers. I think they’re the only one in PA and they’re actually county police but kept the “sheriff” name.
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Johnny Ringo 10/23/2021 3:19pm
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Why is everyone dissin a 250sx champ?
Regional champ*
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agn5008 10/23/2021 3:27pm
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Why is everyone dissin a 250sx champ?
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Regional champ*
List your accomplishments. I’m willing to bet you’re not the best in the “region” at whatever it is you do.
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Johnny Ringo 10/23/2021 4:17pm
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Sandusky26 wrote:
Why is everyone dissin a 250sx champ?
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Regional champ*
agn5008 wrote:
List your accomplishments. I’m willing to bet you’re not the best in the “region” at whatever it is you do.
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Regional champ*
agn5008 wrote:
List your accomplishments. I’m willing to bet you’re not the best in the “region” at whatever it is you do.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
You can criticize riders all you like but diminishing achievements that you probably couldn't even achieve in your dreams makes you a tool
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agn5008 10/23/2021 5:03pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Regional champ*
agn5008 wrote:
List your accomplishments. I’m willing to bet you’re not the best in the “region” at whatever it is you do.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
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I’m willing to bet he doesn’t make it through the17 rounds!
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Good for him. Haters are so funny. At least he had the balls to try a new career. Change his mind, big deal. It will still be on his resume when his racing career is done, he has another career he can go back to whenever he wants.
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Johnny Ringo 10/23/2021 5:46pm
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agn5008 wrote:
List your accomplishments. I’m willing to bet you’re not the best in the “region” at whatever it is you do.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
jemcee wrote:
You can criticize riders all you like but diminishing achievements that you probably couldn't even achieve in your dreams makes you a tool
Not diminishing, just adding the full name of his championship for context. He is a 250 West Region SX champ, that’s a fact.
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Johnny Ringo 10/23/2021 5:47pm
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agn5008 wrote:
List your accomplishments. I’m willing to bet you’re not the best in the “region” at whatever it is you do.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
agn5008 wrote:
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some...
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
Barcia, Ernie, and Hot Sauce won 2, for the record. Just adding more context.
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agn5008 wrote:
List your accomplishments. I’m willing to bet you’re not the best in the “region” at whatever it is you do.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
agn5008 wrote:
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some...
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
It's no secret Josh and Justin did not live up to their potential, very much like many many others. Maybe he will turn it around, but with what we have seen in the past, the work ethic just isn't there.
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I'm always up for another guy on the line. Not a fan of Justin but cool to see him give it another go. As said earlier the LCQ is going to be stacked in 22.
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agn5008 10/23/2021 6:55pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
agn5008 wrote:
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some...
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
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It's no secret Josh and Justin did not live up to their potential, very much like many many others. Maybe he will turn it around, but...
It's no secret Josh and Justin did not live up to their potential, very much like many many others. Maybe he will turn it around, but with what we have seen in the past, the work ethic just isn't there.
I don’t think anyone is expecting him to win a title. And not respecting a guy because of his work ethic, personality, past, etc is a totally different thing than diminishing his accomplishments. You can not like certain things about a guy and not root for him but to diminish any professional title is just pure stupidity.

It is absolutely remarkable to win a 250 SX “regional” title. Justin Hill is well within the 1% best dirt bike riders on a SX track in the world. That is absolutely unbelievable when you think about it. Yet here we are, guys knocking him for wanting to do what he’s amazing at.
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agn5008 wrote:
List your accomplishments. I’m willing to bet you’re not the best in the “region” at whatever it is you do.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
agn5008 wrote:
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some...
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
Johnny Ringo only does it for attention. He’s a succubus
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agn5008 wrote:
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some...
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
8tensolutions wrote:
It's no secret Josh and Justin did not live up to their potential, very much like many many others. Maybe he will turn it around, but...
It's no secret Josh and Justin did not live up to their potential, very much like many many others. Maybe he will turn it around, but with what we have seen in the past, the work ethic just isn't there.
agn5008 wrote:
I don’t think anyone is expecting him to win a title. And not respecting a guy because of his work ethic, personality, past, etc is a...
I don’t think anyone is expecting him to win a title. And not respecting a guy because of his work ethic, personality, past, etc is a totally different thing than diminishing his accomplishments. You can not like certain things about a guy and not root for him but to diminish any professional title is just pure stupidity.

It is absolutely remarkable to win a 250 SX “regional” title. Justin Hill is well within the 1% best dirt bike riders on a SX track in the world. That is absolutely unbelievable when you think about it. Yet here we are, guys knocking him for wanting to do what he’s amazing at.
I would agree with that. The title is impressive and also showed how capable he really was and did little to nothing after that.
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agn5008 10/23/2021 7:11pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
agn5008 wrote:
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some...
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Barcia, Ernie, and Hot Sauce won 2, for the record. Just adding more context.
Oh, so a regional title is only legit if you have 2. Gotcha.
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Johnny Ringo 10/23/2021 7:22pm
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agn5008 wrote:
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some...
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Barcia, Ernie, and Hot Sauce won 2, for the record. Just adding more context.
agn5008 wrote:
Oh, so a regional title is only legit if you have 2. Gotcha.
Not really, they still don’t count in record book career totals…but I was removing those three from the company you had them in since they did it more than once.

Regional titles are cool, but you’re still racing a shortened series against half the competition. There’s no arguing that.

And for the record, I’m a fan of Justin. And Josh. I’d love to go watch practice and see him grease a quad this year.
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Barcia, Ernie, and Hot Sauce won 2, for the record. Just adding more context.
agn5008 wrote:
Oh, so a regional title is only legit if you have 2. Gotcha.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not really, they still don’t count in record book career totals…but I was removing those three from the company you had them in since they did...
Not really, they still don’t count in record book career totals…but I was removing those three from the company you had them in since they did it more than once.

Regional titles are cool, but you’re still racing a shortened series against half the competition. There’s no arguing that.

And for the record, I’m a fan of Justin. And Josh. I’d love to go watch practice and see him grease a quad this year.
Very few people have been able to become even a regional champ. It’s remarkable. Look at all the 250 riders on the gate. Most don’t have a realistic shot at winning a 250 SX title and they’re still awesome dirt bike riders. Maybe about 6-8 guys total “might” be able to win a title. Only 2 will actually win per SX season. Yet you think it’s no big deal 😂
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not really, they still don’t count in record book career totals…but I was removing those three from the company you had them in since they did...
Not really, they still don’t count in record book career totals…but I was removing those three from the company you had them in since they did it more than once.

Regional titles are cool, but you’re still racing a shortened series against half the competition. There’s no arguing that.

And for the record, I’m a fan of Justin. And Josh. I’d love to go watch practice and see him grease a quad this year.
My god can you be anymore of a wanker.
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
agn5008 wrote:
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some...
It’s hypocritical. Why rag on a guy because he “only” won a regional title? Are you gonna be critical of all the guys who didn’t? Some people like Justin Hill and want to see him do well. I don’t know why that bothers you so much.

Kevin Windham “only” has won a regional SX title. Should we bag him? How about Mookie, Bogle, Barcia, Hahn, Tickle, Weimer, Townley, Millsaps, JLaw, Tedesco, Fonseca, Preston, Bentley, Roncada? Pretty solid company if you ask me.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Barcia, Ernie, and Hot Sauce won 2, for the record. Just adding more context.
Tedesco won a outdoor national title and Townley win the world mx2 title for a big more context
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
jemcee wrote:
You can criticize riders all you like but diminishing achievements that you probably couldn't even achieve in your dreams makes you a tool
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not diminishing, just adding the full name of his championship for context. He is a 250 West Region SX champ, that’s a fact.
And you added it because you think it makes the achievement less.. Otherwise you wouldn't have felt the need to add it
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
So we’re back to the argument that you can’t criticize riders unless you are better than they are….got it.
jemcee wrote:
You can criticize riders all you like but diminishing achievements that you probably couldn't even achieve in your dreams makes you a tool
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not diminishing, just adding the full name of his championship for context. He is a 250 West Region SX champ, that’s a fact.
Justin Hill told me to tell you to fuck off.
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Barcia, Ernie, and Hot Sauce won 2, for the record. Just adding more context.
agn5008 wrote:
Oh, so a regional title is only legit if you have 2. Gotcha.
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Not really, they still don’t count in record book career totals…but I was removing those three from the company you had them in since they did...
Not really, they still don’t count in record book career totals…but I was removing those three from the company you had them in since they did it more than once.

Regional titles are cool, but you’re still racing a shortened series against half the competition. There’s no arguing that.

And for the record, I’m a fan of Justin. And Josh. I’d love to go watch practice and see him grease a quad this year.
You really are a douche aren't you?
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I imagine expectations are just to have fun and enjoy it, but position wise... top 15? 8-12? What's everyone think, the dude can rip and maybe...
I imagine expectations are just to have fun and enjoy it, but position wise... top 15? 8-12? What's everyone think, the dude can rip and maybe has more fire after bein away.
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He was finishing 13th on JGR, now he's on a bike that I can only assume isn't nearly as good relevant to the competition, he's had...
He was finishing 13th on JGR, now he's on a bike that I can only assume isn't nearly as good relevant to the competition, he's had a year off and the field is much deeper. I'd be impressed if he could make the mains consistently but I might be wrong because he's a pretty unpredictable guy.
The Kawasaki is a way way better base package though. Hard to imagine a full-mod Kawi being worse than anything short of a full factory Zook IMO.
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Harv379 wrote:
I imagine expectations are just to have fun and enjoy it, but position wise... top 15? 8-12? What's everyone think, the dude can rip and maybe...
I imagine expectations are just to have fun and enjoy it, but position wise... top 15? 8-12? What's everyone think, the dude can rip and maybe has more fire after bein away.
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He was finishing 13th on JGR, now he's on a bike that I can only assume isn't nearly as good relevant to the competition, he's had...
He was finishing 13th on JGR, now he's on a bike that I can only assume isn't nearly as good relevant to the competition, he's had a year off and the field is much deeper. I'd be impressed if he could make the mains consistently but I might be wrong because he's a pretty unpredictable guy.
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The Kawasaki is a way way better base package though. Hard to imagine a full-mod Kawi being worse than anything short of a full factory Zook...
The Kawasaki is a way way better base package though. Hard to imagine a full-mod Kawi being worse than anything short of a full factory Zook IMO.
Just cause you have a bunch of ‘mod’ parts doesnt make it better. And a lot of it comes down to having resources to change and test things. Something JGR certainly had more of.
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I'm a fan and glad to see him give it another go, but I'm keeping my expectations low.
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Would love to see him do well, but his track record speaks for itself, won't get fooled again. He'll be making free ride videos with his brother by March. Don't underestimate 450 SX talent levels
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Would love to see him do well, but his track record speaks for itself, won't get fooled again. He'll be making free ride videos with his...
Would love to see him do well, but his track record speaks for itself, won't get fooled again. He'll be making free ride videos with his brother by March. Don't underestimate 450 SX talent levels
His brother makes 450 mains in his free time. When he is not making free ride videos.
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Justin Hill told me to tell you to fuck off.
The best way to make people eat their words and opinions is answering them with top 10 & top 5 results. He has enough skill and if the bike has good suspension and the gearing, ECU, ... is all OK than a "stock" Kawasaki should do the job.

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