57 Motorcycles Stolen From KTM Canada Warehouse

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2stmark 10/23/2021 5:07am
10/23/2021 5:07am
from the list it looks like 11 of the bikes were carbed 2-strokes so those would not need ECU unlocking ?
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mxtech1 10/23/2021 6:36am
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The payload generated by the KTM registration software allows the ECU domains to “talk to each other”. This allows the bike to start and run normally. Without the payload, the software prohibits CAN communication between the different domains (TPS, ignition, fuel system, etc).

I don’t think it’s as simple as hacking into the ECU software and writing a false code to the system and getting it to work. EXTREMELY difficult and would take significant reverse engineering of the ECU software to figure out how to trick it out.

The ECUs are flashed by the component supplier and then given a unique PIN/Payload sequence based on the ECU serial number. When the ECU gets assembled to the bike on the line, the ECU serial is tied to the frame serial. This is how the KTM dealer software knows which ECU PIN to provide based on the frame serial being registered.

Most likely scenario, if this is a sophisticated organized crime job, a hacker would be employed to crack into a random dealerships computer system, use their login credentials to access the KTM software for generating a payload, and then wiping their digital footprint clean once they have the key.
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Dirt_Dawg 10/23/2021 6:39am
10/23/2021 6:39am
Inside job.
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Bruce372 10/23/2021 9:05am
10/23/2021 9:05am
three9zero wrote:
Dude, the worst is when your customer shows up to pick up their bike and your computer, or KTM's system shits the bed.....lol "Sorry sir, you'll...
Dude, the worst is when your customer shows up to pick up their bike and your computer, or KTM's system shits the bed.....lol
"Sorry sir, you'll have to wait till tomorrow to get your bike."
yz763 wrote:
This shit happened to me when I picked up my 350. The dealer.net software thing was acting funky. I almost had a bricked 350.
Same here. Two trips to the dealer.

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gscx 10/23/2021 10:52am
10/23/2021 10:52am
MX world headlines three days from now, "vortex ignition shipping container stolen"
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jjavaman 10/23/2021 11:26am
10/23/2021 11:26am
Brad460 wrote:
Clearly KTM was hoarding bikes to create the illusion of a bike shortage- driving up prices.

Menards was doing the same with lumber all last year.
Where do you people come from?
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-MAVERICK- 10/23/2021 11:37am
10/23/2021 11:37am Edited Date/Time 10/23/2021 11:37am
Herb Eaversmells wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/23/515624/s1200_86FE7825_1EE9_4FE1_A473_729731042822.jpg[/img]

Link for the ad?
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swordfish 10/23/2021 2:56pm
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Herb Eaversmells wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/23/515624/s1200_86FE7825_1EE9_4FE1_A473_729731042822.jpg[/img]

Huh???
Not on the stolen list.
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-MAVERICK- 10/25/2021 2:09pm
10/25/2021 2:09pm Edited Date/Time 10/25/2021 2:10pm
Apparently stolen with 3 container trucks.

If that's the case, they have to be a boat somewhere in the middle of the ocean by now.
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LungButter 10/25/2021 2:27pm
10/25/2021 2:27pm
JoeWV wrote:
Cool, hadn’t seen that. Pretty much the KR edition without using his name.
I hadn't seen it either, glad to see they are keeping it going.
KTMmarkus 10/25/2021 2:42pm
10/25/2021 2:42pm
mxtech1 wrote:
The payload generated by the KTM registration software allows the ECU domains to “talk to each other”. This allows the bike to start and run normally...
The payload generated by the KTM registration software allows the ECU domains to “talk to each other”. This allows the bike to start and run normally. Without the payload, the software prohibits CAN communication between the different domains (TPS, ignition, fuel system, etc).

I don’t think it’s as simple as hacking into the ECU software and writing a false code to the system and getting it to work. EXTREMELY difficult and would take significant reverse engineering of the ECU software to figure out how to trick it out.

The ECUs are flashed by the component supplier and then given a unique PIN/Payload sequence based on the ECU serial number. When the ECU gets assembled to the bike on the line, the ECU serial is tied to the frame serial. This is how the KTM dealer software knows which ECU PIN to provide based on the frame serial being registered.

Most likely scenario, if this is a sophisticated organized crime job, a hacker would be employed to crack into a random dealerships computer system, use their login credentials to access the KTM software for generating a payload, and then wiping their digital footprint clean once they have the key.
Or you know... just buy third party ECUs...
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DaveB771 10/25/2021 2:45pm
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2stmark wrote:
from the list it looks like 11 of the bikes were carbed 2-strokes so those would not need ECU unlocking ?
My 150 SX needed to have the ECU unlocked back in 2019.

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