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Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
I think everyone here has buried the lede. Imagine the fireworks between Brooks and Watson! We need TV cameras following them around to film a series...
I think everyone here has buried the lede. Imagine the fireworks between Brooks and Watson! We need TV cameras following them around to film a series. It would be Must See TV for sure!
GrapeApe wrote:
That was my first thought, I can't imagine two more conflicting personalities. Someone's going to end up in a head lock.
Sandusky26 wrote:
Who would win?
LB and that crazy tenacity. Kenny would gas out lol
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Anyone know what happened with Sean Cantrell? The team started SX with Derek Drake, Jon Short, Schwartz and Cantrell.

I think Short was SX only but haven't heard anything on Cantrell unless I missed something.
suspensionguy 9/29/2021 3:00pm
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Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely break into the top 10 now.

Guys who have basically had a factory ride their whole lives, would be committing career suicide if they decided to ride one, especially after basically getting beat by one at literally every round outdoors this summer. LOL Say what?

Dylan has proved time and time again the bike is good, and fast out of the gate. You curmudgeon’s that bag on them are lame and likely have never owned, rode or raced one.
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Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
I think everyone here has buried the lede. Imagine the fireworks between Brooks and Watson! We need TV cameras following them around to film a series...
I think everyone here has buried the lede. Imagine the fireworks between Brooks and Watson! We need TV cameras following them around to film a series. It would be Must See TV for sure!
GrapeApe wrote:
That was my first thought, I can't imagine two more conflicting personalities. Someone's going to end up in a head lock.
I'm pretty sure that I heard Brooks was the one that approached Watson. I may be wrong though.

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SEMAC 9/29/2021 4:26pm
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suspensionguy wrote:
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely...
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely break into the top 10 now.

Guys who have basically had a factory ride their whole lives, would be committing career suicide if they decided to ride one, especially after basically getting beat by one at literally every round outdoors this summer. LOL Say what?

Dylan has proved time and time again the bike is good, and fast out of the gate. You curmudgeon’s that bag on them are lame and likely have never owned, rode or raced one.
i second that
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suspensionguy wrote:
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely...
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely break into the top 10 now.

Guys who have basically had a factory ride their whole lives, would be committing career suicide if they decided to ride one, especially after basically getting beat by one at literally every round outdoors this summer. LOL Say what?

Dylan has proved time and time again the bike is good, and fast out of the gate. You curmudgeon’s that bag on them are lame and likely have never owned, rode or raced one.
I had an RMZ 250 and the thing was really good. Fast and predictable. I honestly like it more than the yz250f, sure that YZ motor is better but it also feels a lot wider and the front tire feels stuck to the ground, the RMZ is what a dirt bike should like under you IMO.
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motokiwi 9/29/2021 10:14pm
9/29/2021 10:14pm
suspensionguy wrote:
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely...
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely break into the top 10 now.

Guys who have basically had a factory ride their whole lives, would be committing career suicide if they decided to ride one, especially after basically getting beat by one at literally every round outdoors this summer. LOL Say what?

Dylan has proved time and time again the bike is good, and fast out of the gate. You curmudgeon’s that bag on them are lame and likely have never owned, rode or raced one.
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities.

Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform better on a Yamaha.

It all comes down to power in that class.



Nice bench racing lads, love it.



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Crisp BRAAAP! 9/30/2021 4:14am
9/30/2021 4:14am
Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
I think everyone here has buried the lede. Imagine the fireworks between Brooks and Watson! We need TV cameras following them around to film a series...
I think everyone here has buried the lede. Imagine the fireworks between Brooks and Watson! We need TV cameras following them around to film a series. It would be Must See TV for sure!
GrapeApe wrote:
That was my first thought, I can't imagine two more conflicting personalities. Someone's going to end up in a head lock.
McG194 wrote:
I'm pretty sure that I heard Brooks was the one that approached Watson. I may be wrong though.
They both seem lovable in their own ways. I hope they build the team into something good, but I’ll keep my popcorn near just in case anyway.
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I THINK THAT SUSZUKI MAKES THE FASTIST BIKES IN THE LITES I HOAP THAT JON SHORT COMES BACK TO THIS TEAM BECASE HE IS THE ONLY GUY THATS FORM TEXAS AND RIDES SUSZUKI
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tylermx967 wrote:
I THINK THAT SUSZUKI MAKES THE FASTIST BIKES IN THE LITES I HOAP THAT JON SHORT COMES BACK TO THIS TEAM BECASE HE IS THE ONLY...
I THINK THAT SUSZUKI MAKES THE FASTIST BIKES IN THE LITES I HOAP THAT JON SHORT COMES BACK TO THIS TEAM BECASE HE IS THE ONLY GUY THATS FORM TEXAS AND RIDES SUSZUKI
It’s about time, Tyler
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suspensionguy wrote:
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely...
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely break into the top 10 now.

Guys who have basically had a factory ride their whole lives, would be committing career suicide if they decided to ride one, especially after basically getting beat by one at literally every round outdoors this summer. LOL Say what?

Dylan has proved time and time again the bike is good, and fast out of the gate. You curmudgeon’s that bag on them are lame and likely have never owned, rode or raced one.
motokiwi wrote:
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities. Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform...
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities.

Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform better on a Yamaha.

It all comes down to power in that class.



Nice bench racing lads, love it.



Suzuki fan, explains his favorite thing about the bike, then honestly states where the other bike is better and is a better bike for the class and the Suzuki rider would do better on the Yamaha and gets two jackwagons downvoting.

Other than the Vitards that pop up it is good bench racing Kiwi.
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xrclark433 9/30/2021 6:41am
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motokiwi wrote:
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities. Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform...
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities.

Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform better on a Yamaha.

It all comes down to power in that class.



Nice bench racing lads, love it.



Wtf was this all about then?? Lmao. Suzuki fan my ass.
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motokiwi 9/30/2021 8:52am
9/30/2021 8:52am
^^ I have owned more Suzukis than you have had bikes n00b ^^ the RMZ250 is a pile compared to the competition.
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suspensionguy wrote:
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely...
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely break into the top 10 now.

Guys who have basically had a factory ride their whole lives, would be committing career suicide if they decided to ride one, especially after basically getting beat by one at literally every round outdoors this summer. LOL Say what?

Dylan has proved time and time again the bike is good, and fast out of the gate. You curmudgeon’s that bag on them are lame and likely have never owned, rode or raced one.
motokiwi wrote:
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities. Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform...
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities.

Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform better on a Yamaha.

It all comes down to power in that class.



Nice bench racing lads, love it.



I dont think he´ll do better on the Yamaha,people seem to think the bike has some kind of magic,and the truth is
the national champion,and the third placed riders are honda mounted
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motokiwi wrote:
^^ I have owned more Suzukis than you have had bikes n00b ^^ the RMZ250 is a pile compared to the competition.
At Red Bud 2020, the RMZ was the only 250 besides star racing that jumped the leap.
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suspensionguy wrote:
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely...
Yep, can’t be successful on a Suzuki, a kid who was relatively unknown two years ago could never ride one and consistently be top 20, routinely break into the top 10 now.

Guys who have basically had a factory ride their whole lives, would be committing career suicide if they decided to ride one, especially after basically getting beat by one at literally every round outdoors this summer. LOL Say what?

Dylan has proved time and time again the bike is good, and fast out of the gate. You curmudgeon’s that bag on them are lame and likely have never owned, rode or raced one.
motokiwi wrote:
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities. Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform...
Im a Suzuki guy funnily enough. Cant beat Suzukis nimble cornering abilities.

Dilan Schwartz is clearly a stand out talent & he would no doubt perform better on a Yamaha.

It all comes down to power in that class.



Nice bench racing lads, love it.



SEMAC wrote:
I dont think he´ll do better on the Yamaha,people seem to think the bike has some kind of magic,and the truth is the national champion,and the...
I dont think he´ll do better on the Yamaha,people seem to think the bike has some kind of magic,and the truth is
the national champion,and the third placed riders are honda mounted
If you were riding for Bar X Suzuki and were looking for a better paying job, would you say your bike rips and it’s competitive.

Or would you follow the media’s narrative of the RMZ is a pile and you need a better bike.

I’m sorry guys but I really don’t think Schwartz would be winning on a Yamaha. I think he is doing a bad ass job on a bike that isn’t holding him back.

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motokiwi wrote:
^^ I have owned more Suzukis than you have had bikes n00b ^^ the RMZ250 is a pile compared to the competition.
Would love to have you explain this in detail (in your opinion). Can go by area on the bike as well, as to why it is a pile compared to each other bike.

Chassis?

Motor?

reliability?

Cost of ownership?

Miscellaneous thoughts?
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tylermx967 wrote:
I THINK THAT SUSZUKI MAKES THE FASTIST BIKES IN THE LITES I HOAP THAT JON SHORT COMES BACK TO THIS TEAM BECASE HE IS THE ONLY...
I THINK THAT SUSZUKI MAKES THE FASTIST BIKES IN THE LITES I HOAP THAT JON SHORT COMES BACK TO THIS TEAM BECASE HE IS THE ONLY GUY THATS FORM TEXAS AND RIDES SUSZUKI
Posts like this brighten my day.
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motokiwi wrote:
^^ I have owned more Suzukis than you have had bikes n00b ^^ the RMZ250 is a pile compared to the competition.
Suzuki has more moto wins than KTM the last 2 years. Suzuki has more moto wins than Kawasaki the last 2 years. Suzuki has more moto wins than GASGAS the last 2 years.

All in the 250 class.
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I think Carson Mumford will be a 8-15 guy regardless. He has the talent but not sure if the drive is fully there. Good luck to him and team next year.
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SEMAC 9/30/2021 1:25pm
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motokiwi wrote:
^^ I have owned more Suzukis than you have had bikes n00b ^^ the RMZ250 is a pile compared to the competition.
Show the zooks You claim hace owned,and explain where is the shit
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motokiwi 9/30/2021 10:20pm
9/30/2021 10:20pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2021 10:22pm
seth505 wrote:
Would love to have you explain this in detail (in your opinion). Can go by area on the bike as well, as to why it is...
Would love to have you explain this in detail (in your opinion). Can go by area on the bike as well, as to why it is a pile compared to each other bike.

Chassis?

Motor?

reliability?

Cost of ownership?

Miscellaneous thoughts?
Chassis:
This thread has caused me to realize its not a bad bike in stock trim - maybe first in the field of stock bikes.

Motor:
-For pro racing - IMO it comes down to the motor - if you are pro and want every advantage you can get - Suzuki basically has the worst record of making designs that can create top class hp.
-Im sure LB in conjunction with his neighbor can make it a fire breathing dragon - however history will likely repeat and it will have more limitations than the other brands.

Reliability:
Pretty sure Suzukis turn so well because everything is flexible lol. All their proprietary components are a little bit softer than the competition in a crash / loss of fluid etc situation.

Cost of ownership:
Winner winner chicken dinner - for a non pro-rider its probably the best bike to have - cheap, reliable enough and turns on a dime.


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My Suzuki is built like a army tank powered by a small block Chevy.
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motokiwi wrote:
Chassis: This thread has caused me to realize its not a bad bike in stock trim - maybe first in the field of stock bikes. Motor...
Chassis:
This thread has caused me to realize its not a bad bike in stock trim - maybe first in the field of stock bikes.

Motor:
-For pro racing - IMO it comes down to the motor - if you are pro and want every advantage you can get - Suzuki basically has the worst record of making designs that can create top class hp.
-Im sure LB in conjunction with his neighbor can make it a fire breathing dragon - however history will likely repeat and it will have more limitations than the other brands.

Reliability:
Pretty sure Suzukis turn so well because everything is flexible lol. All their proprietary components are a little bit softer than the competition in a crash / loss of fluid etc situation.

Cost of ownership:
Winner winner chicken dinner - for a non pro-rider its probably the best bike to have - cheap, reliable enough and turns on a dime.


You’re talking so far out of your ass 😂 one second you hate them the next you own all of them and now you’re back to “maybe they’re not bad in stock trim” lmao. And your “reasons” aren’t even facts just opinions from someone who clearly doesn’t own a Suzuki 😂
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The 250 class is all about power, if you start with an RMZ you start at a deficit compared to the rest. Unless the RMZ has more hop up potential than the other bikes that deficit won't be able to be overcome.
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KONG 10/1/2021 5:13am
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I was wondering how anyone could talk about BarX Suzuki for four pages.
I should have guessed the real topic was "How can anybody waste his time riding a yellow turd?"
Laughing
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chump6784 wrote:
The 250 class is all about power, if you start with an RMZ you start at a deficit compared to the rest. Unless the RMZ has...
The 250 class is all about power, if you start with an RMZ you start at a deficit compared to the rest. Unless the RMZ has more hop up potential than the other bikes that deficit won't be able to be overcome.
Troll holeshotted a yellow bike last year.

That twisted development motor is pretty stout compared to other privateer or mid level teams.
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KONG wrote:
I was wondering how anyone could talk about BarX Suzuki for four pages. I should have guessed the real topic was "How can anybody waste his...
I was wondering how anyone could talk about BarX Suzuki for four pages.
I should have guessed the real topic was "How can anybody waste his time riding a yellow turd?"
Laughing
You can tell who rides and who just talks about riding.
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SEMAC 10/1/2021 7:57am
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KONG wrote:
I was wondering how anyone could talk about BarX Suzuki for four pages. I should have guessed the real topic was "How can anybody waste his...
I was wondering how anyone could talk about BarX Suzuki for four pages.
I should have guessed the real topic was "How can anybody waste his time riding a yellow turd?"
Laughing
Do you even have a bike?
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KONG wrote:
I was wondering how anyone could talk about BarX Suzuki for four pages. I should have guessed the real topic was "How can anybody waste his...
I was wondering how anyone could talk about BarX Suzuki for four pages.
I should have guessed the real topic was "How can anybody waste his time riding a yellow turd?"
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SEMAC wrote:
Do you even have a bike?
No, if he rode dirt bikes he wouldn’t care about the color of the plastics. He would be happy to be on a bike and wouldn’t be on vital bitching about dirt bikes.

Fuck that guy
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