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Juck 9/26/2021 8:22am
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Oh my god that was crazy. Only commenting now because my god damn internet went out during the race so had to wait for it to come back. Honestly as much as I wanted Italy to win Lupino should've been penalised more, we'll see in some time if they keep that win or if it's contested.
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Kind of an odd race. To me it just didn't have a big time feel to it and I'm sorry but Italy gets an asterisk next to this win imho. The way that riders get away with cutting the track these days is ridiculous. It's outdoors, first lap and you should have to rejoin where you went off. There was no danger to be faced and Lupino/Italy got away with theft. I'm happy for Cairoli but it almost seems fixed. Oh well I get to see it up close and personal again in 2022 at Redddddddddddddddd Buddddddddddddddddd!
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Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish?
It was a drama how he ride after his crash.
I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday..

Mattia great!
And Cairoli is such a Gentleman and say that after the podiom in the Interview. Great!
They deserve that a iam so excited to see him next weekend for the last time in GPS.

And Herlings... What an asshole on the Podium and in the Interview. Man be cool, you are the fastets on the Planet, but the world doesn't revolve around you
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Juck 9/26/2021 8:22am
9/26/2021 8:22am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2021 8:23am
Saw a flag that looked like a cut up Sri Lanka flag at the podium but might've been another countries coat of arms idk
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roninho 9/26/2021 8:23am
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DeStouwer wrote:
You can argue if 10 places is fair or not, but in hindsight, if Coldenhoff stayed on 2 wheels in the first race and performed as...
You can argue if 10 places is fair or not, but in hindsight, if Coldenhoff stayed on 2 wheels in the first race and performed as everyone expected of him, Assendelft didn't have to complain to the FIM right now.

Edit: he admits it himself in the interview.
Coldenhoff scored better then Cairoli. The performance of RvdM cost the Dutcht team the title. 2 motos with a best of 18 is just very poor. And i actually like the kid.

If this was soccer or football the coach/manager would be having a hard time at the press conference why he picked roan vd Moosdijk. Dont think the (Dutch) moto journos will be full of critique though.
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63mark 9/26/2021 8:23am
9/26/2021 8:23am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2021 8:26am
63mark wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/09/26/512007/s1200_wmx.jpg[/img]

Mugeneco wrote:
exactly my point .. so when is cutting the track at a mudder a DQ and when a 10 p penalty ?
Exactly! The track cut from Lupino was not just unfair,but a cheat. While Nancy at that time probably never would have made it to the finish let alone to the side of the track if she didnt cut off a short area......
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63mark wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/09/26/512007/s1200_wmx.jpg[/img]

Mugeneco wrote:
exactly my point .. so when is cutting the track at a mudder a DQ and when a 10 p penalty ?
63mark wrote:
Exactly! The track cut from Lupino was not just unfair,but a cheat. While Nancy at that time probably never would have made it to the finish...
Exactly! The track cut from Lupino was not just unfair,but a cheat. While Nancy at that time probably never would have made it to the finish let alone to the side of the track if she didnt cut off a short area......
I think Van de Ven got DQ-ed for being assisted when picking her bike up.
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Taddy347 wrote:
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish? It was a drama how he ride after his crash. I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday...
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish?
It was a drama how he ride after his crash.
I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday..

Mattia great!
And Cairoli is such a Gentleman and say that after the podiom in the Interview. Great!
They deserve that a iam so excited to see him next weekend for the last time in GPS.

And Herlings... What an asshole on the Podium and in the Interview. Man be cool, you are the fastets on the Planet, but the world doesn't revolve around you
What did he say? I couldnt follow the live coverage
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ayearinmx 9/26/2021 8:34am
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roninho wrote:
Coldenhoff scored better then Cairoli. The performance of RvdM cost the Dutcht team the title. 2 motos with a best of 18 is just very poor...
Coldenhoff scored better then Cairoli. The performance of RvdM cost the Dutcht team the title. 2 motos with a best of 18 is just very poor. And i actually like the kid.

If this was soccer or football the coach/manager would be having a hard time at the press conference why he picked roan vd Moosdijk. Dont think the (Dutch) moto journos will be full of critique though.
To be fair to RVMD... he was handed outside gatepick for both races

PS. never said the Dutch guy was livid, just pointing out that he did indeed speak with the FIM about the decision
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Taddy347 9/26/2021 8:36am
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Taddy347 wrote:
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish? It was a drama how he ride after his crash. I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday...
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish?
It was a drama how he ride after his crash.
I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday..

Mattia great!
And Cairoli is such a Gentleman and say that after the podiom in the Interview. Great!
They deserve that a iam so excited to see him next weekend for the last time in GPS.

And Herlings... What an asshole on the Podium and in the Interview. Man be cool, you are the fastets on the Planet, but the world doesn't revolve around you
Cortami79 wrote:
What did he say? I couldnt follow the live coverage
First when He step Up to the Podium, you can See in his eyes that He ist pissed of his Team.

At Champagnetime the Same...

And after the podiom Interview he gives the mic to Glenn....
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Aryen 9/26/2021 8:36am
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Taddy347 wrote:
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish? It was a drama how he ride after his crash. I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday...
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish?
It was a drama how he ride after his crash.
I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday..

Mattia great!
And Cairoli is such a Gentleman and say that after the podiom in the Interview. Great!
They deserve that a iam so excited to see him next weekend for the last time in GPS.

And Herlings... What an asshole on the Podium and in the Interview. Man be cool, you are the fastets on the Planet, but the world doesn't revolve around you
The man wants to win at all cost. Give him a break in the heat of the moment.
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Elliot 9/26/2021 8:39am
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DeStouwer wrote:
Sour grapes for The Netherlands, but I believe track cutting is a standard 10-place penalty, regardless the amount of time you've gained.
Mugeneco wrote:
Nancy van de Ven got a full DQ for same , i think 2 or 3 years ago when she won a mudder . copy from...
Nancy van de Ven got a full DQ for same , i think 2 or 3 years ago when she won a mudder .

copy from site

The Indonesian WMX Grand Prix turned into a farce for No Fear Yamaha rider Nancy van der Ven. Nancy won the GP on the track, but was disqualified from one heat for apparently having cut a part of the track.
I can't find them just now but I do remember that MXoNs have a lot of different rules to GPs, so maybe that's it.
crusty_xx 9/26/2021 8:42am
9/26/2021 8:42am
Taddy347 wrote:
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish? It was a drama how he ride after his crash. I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday...
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish?
It was a drama how he ride after his crash.
I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday..

Mattia great!
And Cairoli is such a Gentleman and say that after the podiom in the Interview. Great!
They deserve that a iam so excited to see him next weekend for the last time in GPS.

And Herlings... What an asshole on the Podium and in the Interview. Man be cool, you are the fastets on the Planet, but the world doesn't revolve around you
Cortami79 wrote:
What did he say? I couldnt follow the live coverage
Taddy347 wrote:
First when He step Up to the Podium, you can See in his eyes that He ist pissed of his Team. At Champagnetime the Same... And...
First when He step Up to the Podium, you can See in his eyes that He ist pissed of his Team.

At Champagnetime the Same...

And after the podiom Interview he gives the mic to Glenn....
wow THAT bothers you? Damn son
EnvyMedia 9/26/2021 8:43am
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ayearinmx wrote:
To be fair to RVMD... he was handed outside gatepick for both races PS. never said the Dutch guy was livid, just pointing out that he...
To be fair to RVMD... he was handed outside gatepick for both races

PS. never said the Dutch guy was livid, just pointing out that he did indeed speak with the FIM about the decision
Wouldn’t surprise me if they did that because they knew he can’t buy a start no matter what gate he starts from
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Juck 9/26/2021 8:44am
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Is the broadcast still going? My internet dropped out again so I'm waiting for the replay to see the interviews
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-MAVERICK- 9/26/2021 8:47am
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Juck wrote:
Is the broadcast still going? My internet dropped out again so I'm waiting for the replay to see the interviews
No. It's done.
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Juck 9/26/2021 8:48am
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Juck wrote:
Is the broadcast still going? My internet dropped out again so I'm waiting for the replay to see the interviews
-MAVERICK- wrote:
No. It's done.
When did it finish? Still waiting for the replay to become available
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-MAVERICK- 9/26/2021 8:52am
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Juck wrote:
Is the broadcast still going? My internet dropped out again so I'm waiting for the replay to see the interviews
-MAVERICK- wrote:
No. It's done.
Juck wrote:
When did it finish? Still waiting for the replay to become available
30 minutes ago?

Edit: Replays are up.
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Elliot 9/26/2021 8:52am
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Juck wrote:
Is the broadcast still going? My internet dropped out again so I'm waiting for the replay to see the interviews
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No. It's done.
Juck wrote:
When did it finish? Still waiting for the replay to become available
Replays are taking them longer to upload this year, compared to previous years, but it shouldn't be long and worth the wait!
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Bidirella wrote:
What a joke, 10 places. That’s a DQ, nothing more nothing less.
63mark wrote:
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and...
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and try to get back on the track where he was supposed to.
Why 7th?
He got 17th with the penalty. You think he wouldn't have been able to get to 17th after entering in last?

Nagl was pretty much last after lap 5 (not sure what happened) and got back up to 19th and Lupino was 3-4 seconds a lap faster all race
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Juck 9/26/2021 8:54am
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
No. It's done.
Juck wrote:
When did it finish? Still waiting for the replay to become available
-MAVERICK- wrote:
30 minutes ago?

Edit: Replays are up.
I'll try refreshing again at the top of the hour. Still not posted yet unfortunately.
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I'll try refreshing again at the top of the hour. Still not posted yet unfortunately.
They're up.

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Ok replay was just posted
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Bidirella wrote:
What a joke, 10 places. That’s a DQ, nothing more nothing less.
63mark wrote:
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and...
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and try to get back on the track where he was supposed to.
crusty_xx wrote:
Why 7th? He got 17th with the penalty. You think he wouldn't have been able to get to 17th after entering in last? Nagl was pretty...
Why 7th?
He got 17th with the penalty. You think he wouldn't have been able to get to 17th after entering in last?

Nagl was pretty much last after lap 5 (not sure what happened) and got back up to 19th and Lupino was 3-4 seconds a lap faster all race
Yep. That was a pretty good ride from Nagl.


Jens_Olsson 9/26/2021 9:02am
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Hey guys Saw a post yesterday on Twitter from mxvice that said something new and cool would be introduce to the tv boardcast. and it feel like something is new With coverage. Anyone can tell what exactly it is?? Or is it anything or just me think it was? I think it was just a lot better than it use to be??
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Juck 9/26/2021 9:04am
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Kinda looked like Herlings thought about confronting Guadagnini for a second there in the interview. Not accusing him of anything, I don't think he would've, but it looked like that.
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Jens_Olsson wrote:
Hey guys Saw a post yesterday on Twitter from mxvice that said something new and cool would be introduce to the tv boardcast. and it feel...
Hey guys Saw a post yesterday on Twitter from mxvice that said something new and cool would be introduce to the tv boardcast. and it feel like something is new With coverage. Anyone can tell what exactly it is?? Or is it anything or just me think it was? I think it was just a lot better than it use to be??
Don't think anyone here knows
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Bidirella wrote:
What a joke, 10 places. That’s a DQ, nothing more nothing less.
63mark wrote:
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and...
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and try to get back on the track where he was supposed to.
crusty_xx wrote:
Why 7th? He got 17th with the penalty. You think he wouldn't have been able to get to 17th after entering in last? Nagl was pretty...
Why 7th?
He got 17th with the penalty. You think he wouldn't have been able to get to 17th after entering in last?

Nagl was pretty much last after lap 5 (not sure what happened) and got back up to 19th and Lupino was 3-4 seconds a lap faster all race
We will never know will we? Track cutting that blatantly should be a lap or a dq both in MXGP and US Nationals. Get back on where you went off period.
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DeStouwer 9/26/2021 9:16am
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63mark wrote:
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and...
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and try to get back on the track where he was supposed to.
crusty_xx wrote:
Why 7th? He got 17th with the penalty. You think he wouldn't have been able to get to 17th after entering in last? Nagl was pretty...
Why 7th?
He got 17th with the penalty. You think he wouldn't have been able to get to 17th after entering in last?

Nagl was pretty much last after lap 5 (not sure what happened) and got back up to 19th and Lupino was 3-4 seconds a lap faster all race
motomike137 wrote:
We will never know will we? Track cutting that blatantly should be a lap or a dq both in MXGP and US Nationals. Get back on...
We will never know will we? Track cutting that blatantly should be a lap or a dq both in MXGP and US Nationals. Get back on where you went off period.
"Get back on where you went off" used to be the rule, but the last 10 years or so, nobody does that anymore. As long as you re-enter the track without putting anyone in danger, it's allowed. If you haven't gained anything, you don't get penalised.
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Taddy347 wrote:
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish? It was a drama how he ride after his crash. I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday...
Puhhh... How Lupino make it throw the finish?
It was a drama how he ride after his crash.
I think tomorrow he know nothing about yesterday..

Mattia great!
And Cairoli is such a Gentleman and say that after the podiom in the Interview. Great!
They deserve that a iam so excited to see him next weekend for the last time in GPS.

And Herlings... What an asshole on the Podium and in the Interview. Man be cool, you are the fastets on the Planet, but the world doesn't revolve around you
O what a gentleman he is, to push Coldenhof when they get up at that start crash. Glenn does not do that on purpose. And then later complaining he hurted his back again in the crash. Maybe he hurted his back with that. A few years ago when they were teammates he was complaining when Glenn did not let him go by easy. And gave some signals in the air to Glenn. If there is one fair atlete behind the gate in mxgp its Glenn imo.
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