MXoN Mantova: Sunday bench racing

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Bearuno 9/26/2021 7:55am
9/26/2021 7:55am
That is just Wonderful.

I'm so happy for Tony and his Teammates .
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VanDan 9/26/2021 7:55am
9/26/2021 7:55am
Already started planning our trip to Red Bud next year. Hope all this restrictions reduce by then!
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Mugeneco 9/26/2021 7:56am
9/26/2021 7:56am
looks like a lot of people wanted italy to win this one
10 place penalty is hilarious in this case

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Suicidal_Tendencies 9/26/2021 7:56am
9/26/2021 7:56am
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I’m sure Malin just made that rule up on the fly. That was a massive course cut by Lupino. By all tense & purposes he should’ve...
I’m sure Malin just made that rule up on the fly. That was a massive course cut by Lupino. By all tense & purposes he should’ve rejoined last.
Tense and purposes?
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kaidodragon 9/26/2021 7:57am
9/26/2021 7:57am
MXGP overall

1/ Ben Watson (3/4)
2/ Vsevolod Brylyakov (7/7)
3/ Thomas Kjer Olsen (1/13)
4/ Glenn Coldenhoff (15/3)
5/ Karlis Sabulis (10/8)
6/ Benoit Paturel (9/11)
7/ Antonio Cairoli (21/2)
8/ Gert Krestinov (13/16)
9/ Arnaud Tonus (4/26)
10/ Jose Butron (12/20)

OPEN overall

1/ Jeffrey Herlings (1/1)
2/ Evgeny Bobryshev (10/5)
3/ Shaun Simpson (12/6)
4/ Valentin Guillod (2/18)
5/ Arminas Jasikonis (9/14)
6/ Alessandro Lupino (7/17)
7/ Ken Bengtdon (16/10)
8/ Harri Kullas (11/15)
9/ Mathys Boisrame (19/9)
10/ Brent Van Doninck (4/34)
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Aryen 9/26/2021 7:58am
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Elliot wrote:
Well pleased for TC & team Italy although I have to say Lupino's penalty was harsh. He left the track in about 3rd place and rejoined...
Well pleased for TC & team Italy although I have to say Lupino's penalty was harsh. He left the track in about 3rd place and rejoined in about 7th so didn't gain any places.

Stoked for team GB. Watson held it together after his crash and Simpson was a brick.
You saw something completely different
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Bidirella wrote:
What a joke, 10 places. That’s a DQ, nothing more nothing less.
To be honest, 10 places is a joke for sure. There is no way Lupino would have finished in 7th if he would have braked, and try to get back on the track where he was supposed to.
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Crush 9/26/2021 8:01am
9/26/2021 8:01am
How do they get the trophies wrong hahaha
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Muscle-Milk-KTM 9/26/2021 8:01am
9/26/2021 8:01am
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I’m sure Malin just made that rule up on the fly. That was a massive course cut by Lupino. By all tense & purposes he should’ve...
I’m sure Malin just made that rule up on the fly. That was a massive course cut by Lupino. By all tense & purposes he should’ve rejoined last.
Suicidal_Tendencies wrote:
Tense and purposes?
I dunno but you know what I mean.
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DeStouwer 9/26/2021 8:01am
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Sour grapes for The Netherlands, but I believe track cutting is a standard 10-place penalty, regardless the amount of time you've gained.
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VanDan 9/26/2021 8:04am
9/26/2021 8:04am
Does this make Cairoli the oldest winner of the MXoN?
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ayearinmx 9/26/2021 8:04am
9/26/2021 8:04am
Just walked past the FIM offices... That's the Dutch manager and two members of the FIM ...
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kaidodragon 9/26/2021 8:05am
9/26/2021 8:05am
Fastest laps of the races

Race 1

1/ Thomas Kjer Olsen = 2.02.553
2/ Ben Watson = 2.03.597
3/ Tom Vialle = 2.03.854
4/ Karlis Sabulis = 2.04.344
5/ Arnaud Tonus = 2.04.529
6/ Benoit Paturel = 2.04.921
7/ Cyril Genot = 2.05.031
8/ Jose Butron = 2.05.100
9/ Mattia Guadagnini = 2.05.109
10/ Rene Hofer = 2.05.576

Race 2

1/ Jeffrey Herlings = 2.08.121
2/ Rene Hofer = 2.10.090
3/ Henry Jacobi = 2.10.684
4/ Valentin Guillod = 2.10.732
5/ Mattia Guadagnini = 2.11.187
6/ Brent Van Doninck = 2.11.252
7/ Alessandro Lupino = 2.11.349
8/ Roan Van De Moosdijk = 2.11.657
9/ Isak Gifting = 2.11.660
10/ Evgeny Bobryshev = 2.12.826

Race 3

1/ Jeffrey Herlings = 2.05.942
2/ Antonio Cairoli = 2.08.023
3/ Ben Watson = 2.09.576
4/ Glenn Coldenhoff = 2.09.966
5/ Alessandro Lupino = 2.11.219
6/ Evgeny Bobryshev = 2.11.938
7/ Bastian Boegh Damm = 2.11.956
8/ Shaun Simpson = 2.12.177
9/ Karlis Sabulis = 2.12.435
10/ Mathys Boisrame = 2.12.548
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DeStouwer 9/26/2021 8:07am
9/26/2021 8:07am Edited Date/Time 9/26/2021 8:09am
ayearinmx wrote:
Just walked past the FIM offices... That's the Dutch manager and two members of the FIM ... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/09/26/512006/s1200_IMG_20210926_165338.jpg[/img]
Just walked past the FIM offices... That's the Dutch manager and two members of the FIM ...
You can argue if 10 places is fair or not, but in hindsight, if Coldenhoff stayed on 2 wheels in the first race and performed as everyone expected of him, Assendelft didn't have to complain to the FIM right now.

Edit: he admits it himself in the interview.
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DeStouwer wrote:
Sour grapes for The Netherlands, but I believe track cutting is a standard 10-place penalty, regardless the amount of time you've gained.
If thats the case, its a terrible rule in my honest opinion. But besides that shit move Lupino pulled off. Great riding from Tony and Mattia!
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Motocross83 9/26/2021 8:07am
9/26/2021 8:07am
Congrats to Italy, and what a feather in Tony's cap - the guy has already achieved so much and now this too. Just can't beat this race, nothing quite like it. Nice going by the Netherlands and GB also.
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Mugeneco 9/26/2021 8:10am
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DeStouwer wrote:
Sour grapes for The Netherlands, but I believe track cutting is a standard 10-place penalty, regardless the amount of time you've gained.
Nancy van de Ven got a full DQ for same , i think 2 or 3 years ago when she won a mudder .

copy from site

The Indonesian WMX Grand Prix turned into a farce for No Fear Yamaha rider Nancy van der Ven. Nancy won the GP on the track, but was disqualified from one heat for apparently having cut a part of the track.
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63mark 9/26/2021 8:14am
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DeStouwer wrote:
Sour grapes for The Netherlands, but I believe track cutting is a standard 10-place penalty, regardless the amount of time you've gained.
Mugeneco wrote:
Nancy van de Ven got a full DQ for same , i think 2 or 3 years ago when she won a mudder . copy from...
Nancy van de Ven got a full DQ for same , i think 2 or 3 years ago when she won a mudder .

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The Indonesian WMX Grand Prix turned into a farce for No Fear Yamaha rider Nancy van der Ven. Nancy won the GP on the track, but was disqualified from one heat for apparently having cut a part of the track.
2017, first round in indonesia, race 2. It probably cost her the championship....
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Finnish_Flash_62 9/26/2021 8:15am
9/26/2021 8:15am
DeStouwer wrote:
Sour grapes for The Netherlands, but I believe track cutting is a standard 10-place penalty, regardless the amount of time you've gained.
63mark wrote:
If thats the case, its a terrible rule in my honest opinion. But besides that shit move Lupino pulled off. Great riding from Tony and Mattia!
The rule is fine. I don’t think they had a track cut like that in mind when they made the rule. I can’t recall a situation like that before. It would be a mess if there wasn’t a standard in place and they would start looking at every track cut individualy and handing out penalties at will. With that said, this one played in Italy’s favor.

Happy for Tony though! About damn time he catches a break at MXoN.
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Mugeneco 9/26/2021 8:16am
9/26/2021 8:16am
63mark wrote:
2017, first round in indonesia, race 2. It probably cost her the championship....
so you would think same rules would apply ? its weird
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roninho 9/26/2021 8:16am
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ayearinmx wrote:
Just walked past the FIM offices... That's the Dutch manager and two members of the FIM ... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/09/26/512006/s1200_IMG_20210926_165338.jpg[/img]
Just walked past the FIM offices... That's the Dutch manager and two members of the FIM ...
Hands in his pocket. Not a look of a team manager who is livid...
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Ray_MXS 9/26/2021 8:16am
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DeStouwer wrote:
Sour grapes for The Netherlands, but I believe track cutting is a standard 10-place penalty, regardless the amount of time you've gained.
If that's so, that's a proper big brain moment from Lupino. Much easier to start at the front and take the penalty than to ride from the back. Especially on a track like this that heavily favors starts and track position.
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mx691 9/26/2021 8:20am
9/26/2021 8:20am
I dont care of the just of penalty (10p) of Lupino cutting track, Cairoli is so worthy of the Chamberlain trophy!
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Mugeneco 9/26/2021 8:20am
9/26/2021 8:20am
63mark wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/09/26/512007/s1200_wmx.jpg[/img]

exactly my point .. so when is cutting the track at a mudder a DQ and when a 10 p penalty ?
Suicidal_Tendencies 9/26/2021 8:21am
9/26/2021 8:21am
kaidodragon wrote:
MXGP overall 1/ Ben Watson (3/4) 2/ Vsevolod Brylyakov (7/7) 3/ Thomas Kjer Olsen (1/13) 4/ Glenn Coldenhoff (15/3) 5/ Karlis Sabulis (10/8) 6/ Benoit Paturel...
MXGP overall

1/ Ben Watson (3/4)
2/ Vsevolod Brylyakov (7/7)
3/ Thomas Kjer Olsen (1/13)
4/ Glenn Coldenhoff (15/3)
5/ Karlis Sabulis (10/8)
6/ Benoit Paturel (9/11)
7/ Antonio Cairoli (21/2)
8/ Gert Krestinov (13/16)
9/ Arnaud Tonus (4/26)
10/ Jose Butron (12/20)

OPEN overall

1/ Jeffrey Herlings (1/1)
2/ Evgeny Bobryshev (10/5)
3/ Shaun Simpson (12/6)
4/ Valentin Guillod (2/18)
5/ Arminas Jasikonis (9/14)
6/ Alessandro Lupino (7/17)
7/ Ken Bengtdon (16/10)
8/ Harri Kullas (11/15)
9/ Mathys Boisrame (19/9)
10/ Brent Van Doninck (4/34)
Those scores are insane, Winning an overall with a 3-4...

What a wild race.
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Dimblewambie 9/26/2021 8:21am
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kaidodragon wrote:
Fastest laps of the races Race 1 1/ Thomas Kjer Olsen = 2.02.553 2/ Ben Watson = 2.03.597 3/ Tom Vialle = 2.03.854 4/ Karlis Sabulis...
Fastest laps of the races

Race 1

1/ Thomas Kjer Olsen = 2.02.553
2/ Ben Watson = 2.03.597
3/ Tom Vialle = 2.03.854
4/ Karlis Sabulis = 2.04.344
5/ Arnaud Tonus = 2.04.529
6/ Benoit Paturel = 2.04.921
7/ Cyril Genot = 2.05.031
8/ Jose Butron = 2.05.100
9/ Mattia Guadagnini = 2.05.109
10/ Rene Hofer = 2.05.576

Race 2

1/ Jeffrey Herlings = 2.08.121
2/ Rene Hofer = 2.10.090
3/ Henry Jacobi = 2.10.684
4/ Valentin Guillod = 2.10.732
5/ Mattia Guadagnini = 2.11.187
6/ Brent Van Doninck = 2.11.252
7/ Alessandro Lupino = 2.11.349
8/ Roan Van De Moosdijk = 2.11.657
9/ Isak Gifting = 2.11.660
10/ Evgeny Bobryshev = 2.12.826

Race 3

1/ Jeffrey Herlings = 2.05.942
2/ Antonio Cairoli = 2.08.023
3/ Ben Watson = 2.09.576
4/ Glenn Coldenhoff = 2.09.966
5/ Alessandro Lupino = 2.11.219
6/ Evgeny Bobryshev = 2.11.938
7/ Bastian Boegh Damm = 2.11.956
8/ Shaun Simpson = 2.12.177
9/ Karlis Sabulis = 2.12.435
10/ Mathys Boisrame = 2.12.548
TKO=FMOP
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