Side by side, oh my....

ns503 wrote:

Whatchya got for dealers around there?

Can-Am Defender is a decent all around unit.

Kawi has their utility side too.

FLmxer wrote:

4010 kawi mule transformation.
https://youtu.be/puR-jzXONgw

skeef wrote:

Can-am Defedner. Full cab with A/C / Heat option. IMO much better than the Polaris Ranger.

reded301 wrote:

Gen2 Commander will likely be my next one if I ever grow tired of the Pioneer.

mxtech1 wrote:

If you are primarily looking for something to work the land with, don't rule out the John Deere XUV line. The 835 or 865 models might...

If you are primarily looking for something to work the land with, don't rule out the John Deere XUV line. The 835 or 865 models might be exactly what you are looking for and they can be ordered with a powered dump bed and all sorts of other farm-friendly attachments.

Reliability on these should be really good as Deere typically tests above and beyond and the product itself is engineered for reliability more-so than high performance.

When and if you need service, you can then rely on your local John Deere dealership to help with service work. The Deere dealership and service network is second to none.

We have a couple of the full size 865 XUVs that we use at work and they are always dependable and fun to drive. The engines are smooth with a linear powerband, but still fairly peppy if you want to do some play driving. Suspension is good at low speeds and sprung well enough to handle quite a bit of weight in the bed, but will lack the overall travel and plushness at higher speeds that some of the other "sport" side-by-sides have.

Deere is currently offering 48 months 0% APR if you finance through JD Financial and they also have military and Farm Bureau discounts if you qualify.

mxtech1 wrote:

If you are primarily looking for something to work the land with, don't rule out the John Deere XUV line. The 835 or 865 models might...

If you are primarily looking for something to work the land with, don't rule out the John Deere XUV line. The 835 or 865 models might be exactly what you are looking for and they can be ordered with a powered dump bed and all sorts of other farm-friendly attachments.

Reliability on these should be really good as Deere typically tests above and beyond and the product itself is engineered for reliability more-so than high performance.

When and if you need service, you can then rely on your local John Deere dealership to help with service work. The Deere dealership and service network is second to none.

We have a couple of the full size 865 XUVs that we use at work and they are always dependable and fun to drive. The engines are smooth with a linear powerband, but still fairly peppy if you want to do some play driving. Suspension is good at low speeds and sprung well enough to handle quite a bit of weight in the bed, but will lack the overall travel and plushness at higher speeds that some of the other "sport" side-by-sides have.

Deere is currently offering 48 months 0% APR if you finance through JD Financial and they also have military and Farm Bureau discounts if you qualify.

holyroller1 wrote:

Thanks for the advice but JD is out. We have owned many of their tractors over the years. We will not purchase another piece of equipment...

Thanks for the advice but JD is out. We have owned many of their tractors over the years. We will not purchase another piece of equipment from them until they stop fighting against right to repair. They are the devil, as momma would say.

mxtech1 wrote:

That’s unfortunate you feel that way. It’s not just Deere though. Tesla, Johnson & Johnson, AT&T, T-Mobile, Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, GE, Philips, eBay, Caterpillar, CNH...

That’s unfortunate you feel that way. It’s not just Deere though. Tesla, Johnson & Johnson, AT&T, T-Mobile, Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, GE, Philips, eBay, Caterpillar, CNH Industrial, Claas are some of the other major companies that want right to repair legislation passed carefully rather than blown wide open by government. And I can guarantee all of the Motorsport manufacturers will have the same stance when their electrical and software architecture become complex enough to warrant the same situation. I would argue we somewhat saw that last year when Honda put out bad maps on the 2020 CRFs which required customers to bring the bike back to the dealership for a new payload. Did you abandon your car/truck when the auto OEMs fought with the government for years before they passed legislation in 2012? Resulting in a measles OBD communication port that provides little more than a diagnostic trouble code? Deere (and all other OEMs of modern pieces of equipment) already display diagnostic trouble codes directly on the operator console and those DTCs come with fairly descriptive messages that tell the user exactly what the issue is and how to repair it. In that aspect, they are already more compliant than the auto industry. If an issue occurs, the operator has an idea of what’s wrong before they even get out of the seat. Can you do that with your car?

Did you know that, on average, 95% of all repairs needed on modern machinery can be executed by the average owner? Of the remaining 5% of repairs that an owner typically can’t do, only 2% of repairs involve software issues that require special connection tools and/or electrical hardware components? Do you understand that software and electrical components traditionally have higher system reliability than mechanical components (meaning they RARELY fail or need servicing.) Did you know that even if the OEM made such tools available to the customer, the purchase cost of that software would be exponentially more expensive than just taking the machine to a dealership and letting them handle the fix? Do you think the average customer would even know what to do with the software interface IF they had the ability to access the software system?? I don’t know many people that know how to flash a payload, or how to interpret 16-bit CAN logic, let alone understand the system architecture well enough to understand how all of the electrical domains interface with the software end electrical logic to make it all work. The average person gets in there and starts “troubleshooting” things, I am willing to bet the chance is higher that something will get messed up than the fix occurs.

John Deere is known as an industry leader in providing repair tools to customers. They have hands down the best spare part inventory in the country, publish very in depth technical guides, provide access to training videos and manuals, and even offer remote access machine connectivity for Deere technician assistance when needed.

The mechanical design on side by sides (and most compact tractors for that matter) are not sophisticated enough where any of this right to repair stuff even comes into play.

I don’t mean to hijack the thread, as this topic could be a whole topic of discussion by itself, but the right to repair movement is so misunderstood by the average consumer that it paints many of our otherwise reputable companies in a bad light.

Team Ideal wrote:

Honda Pioneer 1000 should be perfect for what you are wanting. I bought mine mainly to use for hunting and working. I have found it to...

Honda Pioneer 1000 should be perfect for what you are wanting. I bought mine mainly to use for hunting and working. I have found it to be more than a capable trail machine also. I've got close to 10K miles on mine and not a single problem. Don't skimp and go with the 700, you'll regret it.