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Since he won the outdoor title last year on his 250, was he only eligible to pick a single digit the year he won it, or at the beginning of each season, will he have that option.

Reason I am bringing it up, is when he rode MXGP, he was the #4. With Baggett missing a season, isn't his number "technically" eligible to be selected? I know usually there are circumstances where they will hold the number like they did for JMart with his back injury.

If Baggett is planning on coming back next season, I am sure Ferrandis wouldn't take it, but if not, I am saying Ferrandis will be the #4 next year!
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You're allowed to change career numbers once. Let's say he wanted to pick 4 for this year, but it was taken, I do believe he'd be allowed to take it once it becomes available.

Colt Nichols is eligible for a 2 digit career number after winning his SX title.

Personally, I think single digits should be exclusive to the 450 class.
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inthebadboycorner 5/27/2021 3:00pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
You're allowed to change career numbers once. Let's say he wanted to pick 4 for this year, but it was taken, I do believe he'd be...
You're allowed to change career numbers once. Let's say he wanted to pick 4 for this year, but it was taken, I do believe he'd be allowed to take it once it becomes available.

Colt Nichols is eligible for a 2 digit career number after winning his SX title.

Personally, I think single digits should be exclusive to the 450 class.
^^^ 450 class only
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
You're allowed to change career numbers once. Let's say he wanted to pick 4 for this year, but it was taken, I do believe he'd be...
You're allowed to change career numbers once. Let's say he wanted to pick 4 for this year, but it was taken, I do believe he'd be allowed to take it once it becomes available.

Colt Nichols is eligible for a 2 digit career number after winning his SX title.

Personally, I think single digits should be exclusive to the 450 class.
I agree. I think they should revise the rule where you are only allowed to pick a single digit number once you enter the 450s. For example if a 250cc rider wins an outdoor title. They can pick a single digit number, but only once they move up. Kind of like an incentive to help people move up.
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inthebadboycorner wrote:
^^^ 450 class only
Savatgy changed from 37 to 17 when he was on the 250.
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Where has the #8 been?
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Where has the #8 been?
Right between 7 and 9.
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Don't they save the number for a year after no race, so #4 wouldn't be available until '23 if Bagget doesn't race this year? Or would it be available in '22 if no race in '21
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yak651 wrote:
Don't they save the number for a year after no race, so #4 wouldn't be available until '23 if Bagget doesn't race this year? Or would...
Don't they save the number for a year after no race, so #4 wouldn't be available until '23 if Bagget doesn't race this year? Or would it be available in '22 if no race in '21
It should be available next year unless Baggett sends a letter requesting to keep it for another year along with a reason.

22 will also be available. Would be cool to see Jett take that number over.
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I can totally see DF4 happening .. he already took 14 ... passing a chance to get # 4 (or #2) is something no one should do.

Star would likely have the three 250 # 1 plates next year. Plus #3 & #6 plates and if you add #4 (and maybe another 1 digit number if JCoop wins) they would have 4 out of the 7 single digit # in use.
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.........ohhh never mind I’m just gonna sound old Laughing
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sumdood wrote:
.........ohhh never mind I’m just gonna sound old Laughing
I remember runnin' Henry Weinhards outta Zaragoza back in '42.
They was a long-neck, back then...
Men were men & only The Number 1 was a number worth havin'.

Hell, everything's gone to shit since AJS quit makin' Scramblers.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
It should be available next year unless Baggett sends a letter requesting to keep it for another year along with a reason. 22 will also be...
It should be available next year unless Baggett sends a letter requesting to keep it for another year along with a reason.

22 will also be available. Would be cool to see Jett take that number over.
I would think Jett would take #49, unless he wins outdoors and wants a single digit.
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I still prefer the old numbering system where total season points placed you in a pecking order. Took me a whole week to learn what riders had what numbers. I never saw an issue with it.
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I still prefer the old numbering system where total season points placed you in a pecking order. Took me a whole week to learn what riders...
I still prefer the old numbering system where total season points placed you in a pecking order. Took me a whole week to learn what riders had what numbers. I never saw an issue with it.
nah, that makes too much sense. Plus builds the excitement of seeing how the new numbers look each year, we wouldn't want that...
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
It should be available next year unless Baggett sends a letter requesting to keep it for another year along with a reason. 22 will also be...
It should be available next year unless Baggett sends a letter requesting to keep it for another year along with a reason.

22 will also be available. Would be cool to see Jett take that number over.
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I would think Jett would take #49, unless he wins outdoors and wants a single digit.
That's a terrible number. Also I don't think he should take 22. He should make his own brand.
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mxwells216 5/28/2021 8:32am
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I wish they would keep the 2-10 for the guys who won a championship and 11-99 should be points. Old school, no one has a career number unless you won a chip.
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No career numbers set this sport apart. The old system kicked ass, brutally honest and unique to our sport. Oh shit there I go sounding old again. "Career" numbers that constantly change..., ok then Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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sumdood wrote:
No career numbers set this sport apart. The old system kicked ass, brutally honest and unique to our sport. Oh shit there I go sounding old...
No career numbers set this sport apart. The old system kicked ass, brutally honest and unique to our sport. Oh shit there I go sounding old again. "Career" numbers that constantly change..., ok then Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Being from Canada, I was used to the run what you earn system, but that's changed now. We now have career numbers.

Previously up here it was like the following.

#1-10 were for the top 450 guys.

#11-20 were for the top 250 guys. (Defending champ ran the #1, you could skip 13 as well)

#21-99 were assigned by points scored.

The numbers changed every year and it was cool to see. Gave the riders something to chase.
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450 only would mean 2-3 guys would have a single digit. Including the number 1. We need more guys with single digits. lol
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I prefer the old system myself. It worked fine for 30+ years but since its never going back at least eliminate regional sx points from the career # calculations.
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Id much rather see, Where you finished the season before in points... than a career number shenanigans.
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we couldnt have riders changing their social media handle every year, it would destroy their brand
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I remember when it first started it was so a rider could be recognized (by the people who don’t really give a shit ?) and they could “Brand themselves” on toys and T-shirts and what not. But since it started we’ve had what, 3 number twos, 3 #14’s, 2 number 5’s, 2 number 4’s, 2 number 7’s, does Se7en Gear sponsor Plessinger ? Seems like a no brainer but wtf do I know Laughing Laughing
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zookrider62! wrote:
we couldnt have riders changing their social media handle every year, it would destroy their brand
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but which brands are you referring to? The career number thing has been around for 20+ years now and there's only a handful of guys that have actually built a brand and even less that took advantage of their career number to build their brand.

#5 Ryan Dungey with RD coffee. He used his logo not his number.

#7 James Stewart with Seven MX.

#21 Jason Anderson with Team Fried. Number is irrelevant.

#22 Chad Reed with TwoTwo Motorsports.

#26 Alex Martin with Troll Train. Number is irrelevant.

#199 Travis Pastrana. He built Nitro Circus off his personality and his riding abilities. The 199 is on some of his merchandise, but 199 is not the brand.

#722 Adam Enticknap with the SevenDeuceDeuce moniker for his music.

#726 Gared Steinke with Stankdog. Number is irrelevant.

All the riders slapping a name and number on a t-shirt can easily change the number when putting out new merchandise for the new year.
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SCC wrote:
I prefer the old system myself. It worked fine for 30+ years but since its never going back at least eliminate regional sx points from the...
I prefer the old system myself. It worked fine for 30+ years but since its never going back at least eliminate regional sx points from the career # calculations.
I agree. They need to go back to what it was. Drop the regional points and the ability to choose a 2 digit career number when winning a regional title.
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zookrider62! wrote:
we couldnt have riders changing their social media handle every year, it would destroy their brand
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but which brands are you referring to? The career number thing has been around for 20+ years...
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but which brands are you referring to? The career number thing has been around for 20+ years now and there's only a handful of guys that have actually built a brand and even less that took advantage of their career number to build their brand.

#5 Ryan Dungey with RD coffee. He used his logo not his number.

#7 James Stewart with Seven MX.

#21 Jason Anderson with Team Fried. Number is irrelevant.

#22 Chad Reed with TwoTwo Motorsports.

#26 Alex Martin with Troll Train. Number is irrelevant.

#199 Travis Pastrana. He built Nitro Circus off his personality and his riding abilities. The 199 is on some of his merchandise, but 199 is not the brand.

#722 Adam Enticknap with the SevenDeuceDeuce moniker for his music.

#726 Gared Steinke with Stankdog. Number is irrelevant.

All the riders slapping a name and number on a t-shirt can easily change the number when putting out new merchandise for the new year.
sarcasm button was very broken. There's a very limited few who can claim their number as their "brand"
it's a small sport, with even fewer who are "famous"
99.99% of riders numbers means nothing to the rest of the world
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
You're allowed to change career numbers once. Let's say he wanted to pick 4 for this year, but it was taken, I do believe he'd be...
You're allowed to change career numbers once. Let's say he wanted to pick 4 for this year, but it was taken, I do believe he'd be allowed to take it once it becomes available.

Colt Nichols is eligible for a 2 digit career number after winning his SX title.

Personally, I think single digits should be exclusive to the 450 class.
inthebadboycorner wrote:
^^^ 450 class only
I wish everyone had to run the number from the previous seasons finish in each series, and instead of going just to 100 go to 200. and anyone not in the top 200 in the previous series points can pick a 3 digit number 200 and above.
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zookrider62! wrote:
we couldnt have riders changing their social media handle every year, it would destroy their brand
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but which brands are you referring to? The career number thing has been around for 20+ years...
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but which brands are you referring to? The career number thing has been around for 20+ years now and there's only a handful of guys that have actually built a brand and even less that took advantage of their career number to build their brand.

#5 Ryan Dungey with RD coffee. He used his logo not his number.

#7 James Stewart with Seven MX.

#21 Jason Anderson with Team Fried. Number is irrelevant.

#22 Chad Reed with TwoTwo Motorsports.

#26 Alex Martin with Troll Train. Number is irrelevant.

#199 Travis Pastrana. He built Nitro Circus off his personality and his riding abilities. The 199 is on some of his merchandise, but 199 is not the brand.

#722 Adam Enticknap with the SevenDeuceDeuce moniker for his music.

#726 Gared Steinke with Stankdog. Number is irrelevant.

All the riders slapping a name and number on a t-shirt can easily change the number when putting out new merchandise for the new year.
zookrider62! wrote:
sarcasm button was very broken. There's a very limited few who can claim their number as their "brand" it's a small sport, with even fewer who...
sarcasm button was very broken. There's a very limited few who can claim their number as their "brand"
it's a small sport, with even fewer who are "famous"
99.99% of riders numbers means nothing to the rest of the world
I agree to do away with the permanent number system would be good, and to go a step further if everyone had the number from the previous years finish, It would add to the story to see number 21 pass the number 1, or a three digit rider winning etc. an instant reminder of how they finished the previous season would be cool and easy to follow.
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