Nutritional supplements for riding?

jtomasik
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Other than beer, weed, and hookers, I haven't given them much thought, until today. Looking into recovery supplements since I've been increasing my ride time.

Who uses them (I'm talking beyond the three staples in life I mention above), and what ones have you found to be effective?
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6/12/2009 12:54pm
protein powder - approx 25 grams a serving. Any more and you piss it out.
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6/12/2009 12:57pm
Just go to GNC and get some multivitamins and some whey protein powder. After you do whatever physical activity you're doing, drink a protein shake. Whey absorbs into fatigued muscles faster than other types of protein. Other than that, just eat a lot of vegetables and protein. The other supplements are pretty much a waste of money imo.
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In one of the mags last month I could have swarn that I saw an add for a product that replaces steroids. I'm serious.


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6/12/2009 1:06pm
If you aren't using Cytomax, you should be.

www.cytosport.com

Lowers lactic acid buildup, helps prevent cramping and burning, lessens perceived exertion, and more.

I look at it as race gas for my body. Why run "pump" for myself when I won't run it in my bike?

It basically does what people think gatorade is supposed to do.

I also use CytoGainer from the same company but I don't view it as a "must" for ever rider like I do the Cytomax.

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If you want something for recovery, check out the Cytomax stuff, especially their carbohydrate products. It's the one I would trust.

Beyond that, nothing really does what they say they will do. Protein powders, you don't piss them out, you get a build up of protein which turns to nitric acid which is not a good thing. Many vitamins are total overkill in every regard and some are even poisonous in high doses. Mind you, the one time dose might be fine but they do build in the body. Even the water soluble ones.

To take it a step further, there is a lot in the news about supplements containing dangerous chemicals. Most vitamin supplements just pass through the body without even being broken down and digested. Some of the body builder products EVEN CONTAIN REAL STEROIDS.

It is an unregulated and dangerous market that preys upon people who want a quick fix. Again, carb replenishers and stuff are fine, even a good multivitamin, but be careful beyond that.
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6/12/2009 1:27pm
Protien shakes/bars
Cytomax
Multivitamins
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I recommend, well im TELLING you that you need to buy cytomax performance drink. i have always heard about it but never tried it until my latest job running a bicycle shop. we sell the full run of that kind of stuff so i decided to try it out. for me personally i cant ride much but 1 or 2 times during the week just play riding, then hit a practice on Sunday. Let me tell you that if you use this stuff like i do you will notice a huge difference, at least i did. Usually i mix up a large jug of it and drink it on the way to the track, then have a water bottle and mix one up in between rides. For me it literally decreases arm pump by what i would say is 75%, and ive noticed at the end of the day im still able to hang it out on a practice day, where the days i forgot it at home i am physically drained, and only riding the track not attacking it. If you have trouble finding it let me know we have like 3 jugs left (never tried these flavors) and im not sure if we plan on getting any more in, im kinda bummed. but i would say its defiantly the best investment ive made for moto, a trick part doesn't help your body ride the bike all day, remember that
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also check out optygen hp, the owner of the shop used to be a pro body builder, then pro cyclist (figure that out) and knows his stuff when ti comes to manipulating your body, and he backs it 100%, reading off the bottle right now it boasts a increase in oxygen utilization, increase the bodys ability to adapt to high levels of physical stress, and increase aerobic threshold and reduce lactic acid, a months supply is 79.99 though
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protein powder - approx 25 grams a serving. Any more and you piss it out.
This is not true.

Protein is a good solid base for recovery. Your body will absorb what it can and reject the rest, but its not 25 grams, its all dependent upon your needs. If you want to seek means for fastery recovery, look at glutamine (amino acid) products. Soreness is due to lactic acid build up, your bodies ability to recoupe revolves around rest, diet and water (and vitamins).
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I've pretty much lived on Cytomax products for over 10 years! I can't remember what I used to feel like before using it. Cytomax Pre-formance is a re-ride or pre-activity meal supplement drink. Then Cytomax Performance is what you drink to replenish yourself during the activity. Good stuff!
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twizzler wrote:
I've pretty much lived on Cytomax products for over 10 years! I can't remember what I used to feel like before using it. Cytomax Pre-formance is...
I've pretty much lived on Cytomax products for over 10 years! I can't remember what I used to feel like before using it. Cytomax Pre-formance is a re-ride or pre-activity meal supplement drink. Then Cytomax Performance is what you drink to replenish yourself during the activity. Good stuff!
yeah cyto makes enough product to do workout, pre ride, during ride, post ride, but depending on how much you ride or would use it, it could get pricey.
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6/12/2009 2:26pm
What about that 5 hour energy stuff?

I use the powerbar gel stuff sometimes and it gives me a short boost to finish out the day, but was wondering if the 5 hour keeps your energy level up without the jitters.
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jbomx363 wrote:
What about that 5 hour energy stuff? I use the powerbar gel stuff sometimes and it gives me a short boost to finish out the day...
What about that 5 hour energy stuff?

I use the powerbar gel stuff sometimes and it gives me a short boost to finish out the day, but was wondering if the 5 hour keeps your energy level up without the jitters.
it enhances your reaction time and provides energy, i play college football as well and alot of kids slam em before as well as myself sometimes, a former player also swears by them before game time, but as for moto i havent tried it or heard anything
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Supplements? Generic one-a-day vitamin is way more than adequate, assuming you're not doing some weird ass vegan diet or somesuch.

Recovery? For the types of riding that about 90% of those on here are doing, any glucose-containing drink is fine. We aren't talking double or triple workouts that tri-heads are doing....

The rest of it is a waste of money, imo.
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cytomax for sure! Performance bicycles usually has good deals on it. I go to the one on Colorado but looks like there is one in Littleton too.

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KBehlingMX wrote:
If you aren't using Cytomax, you should be. www.cytosport.com Lowers lactic acid buildup, helps prevent cramping and burning, lessens perceived exertion, and more. I look at...
If you aren't using Cytomax, you should be.

www.cytosport.com

Lowers lactic acid buildup, helps prevent cramping and burning, lessens perceived exertion, and more.

I look at it as race gas for my body. Why run "pump" for myself when I won't run it in my bike?

It basically does what people think gatorade is supposed to do.

I also use CytoGainer from the same company but I don't view it as a "must" for ever rider like I do the Cytomax.
Ditto. Cytomax makes alot of great products for pre/post riding/racing.
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6/12/2009 5:16pm
Gatorade and water mixed 50/50. and a multi-vitamin...
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6/12/2009 5:20pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:23am
Unless youre riding pro or spending hours in the gym, nutritional drinks are a waste of money. You can get everything you need with a glass of milk and if you want to be creative, add some creatine in it. A lot less expencive and just as effective for the average rider.

The best thing you can do for recovery time is eat right. A good balanced diet will give your body everything it needs. It takes about 24 hours for your body to use the fuel you put in it, so dont expect to eat like crap all week and then have some magic protien drink to work when you ride.

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drmarkr wrote:
Supplements? Generic one-a-day vitamin is way more than adequate, assuming you're not doing some weird ass vegan diet or somesuch. Recovery? For the types of riding...
Supplements? Generic one-a-day vitamin is way more than adequate, assuming you're not doing some weird ass vegan diet or somesuch.

Recovery? For the types of riding that about 90% of those on here are doing, any glucose-containing drink is fine. We aren't talking double or triple workouts that tri-heads are doing....

The rest of it is a waste of money, imo.
100 % correct
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drmarkr wrote:
Supplements? Generic one-a-day vitamin is way more than adequate, assuming you're not doing some weird ass vegan diet or somesuch. Recovery? For the types of riding...
Supplements? Generic one-a-day vitamin is way more than adequate, assuming you're not doing some weird ass vegan diet or somesuch.

Recovery? For the types of riding that about 90% of those on here are doing, any glucose-containing drink is fine. We aren't talking double or triple workouts that tri-heads are doing....

The rest of it is a waste of money, imo.
DMG wrote:
100 % correct
Why thank you! I don't know how the heck I got that one right.....?
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I had heard that creatine promotes arm pump, it was actually bad for MX, great for muscle bulk. Also inst Muscle Milk the same as Cytomax? Same people?

No one saw this, this week? http://www.racerxvt.com/ NASA makes an energy drink. It has my interest.
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6/13/2009 12:19am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:23am
What a hoot! How many of you Cytomax fans will drink a RedBull or Monster?




Best recovery drink: 16oz of Chocolate milk and 200mg of Advil.
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WORCSRacer wrote:
What a hoot! How many of you Cytomax fans will drink a RedBull or Monster?




Best recovery drink: 16oz of Chocolate milk and 200mg of Advil.
I do when I'm injured and don't give a shit.

Bottom line opinion from your typical Local A rider / wanabe Pro on a budget...

Dairy is a no go as a pre or post moto beverage. Even for those who aren't lactose intolerant. If you're serious you must be one of those people whos stomach is similar to a garbage disposal.


Of course eating right, a good multi-vitamin, good sleep habits etc are the goal for a base. But the question was what to do beyond that. Just because some people who post here can't do 5 laps, doesn't mean that the original poster or others don't ride a full tank before taking a break.

Water x10
Cytomax
Cytogainer

Personally I've found Creatine is a no go, as much as I need weight/mass, Creatine just makes me retain water and pump up with little to no moto-related benefit.

Cytogainer is a must for someone like me, as I'm 5'11 and 122lbs soaking wet.

The bottom line is have a good nutritional base, get your rest, whey or a weight gainer is up to your needs. Cytomax works, don't knock it until you try it and if you can't tell the difference it's probably because you didn't ride long enough or hard enough for it to make a difference. It's about $27 for 20-30 servings of the mix or $2 each in ready to go form at GNC. Trying it once won't break the bank and unlike gatorade or other sports drinks, it's actually useful.

www.cytosport.com
Cytomax
Cytosport
Muscle Milk
Monster Milk
etc.
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I just ordered some "podium" from Myogenesis I'll let you know how I like it.
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drmarkr wrote:
Supplements? Generic one-a-day vitamin is way more than adequate, assuming you're not doing some weird ass vegan diet or somesuch. Recovery? For the types of riding...
Supplements? Generic one-a-day vitamin is way more than adequate, assuming you're not doing some weird ass vegan diet or somesuch.

Recovery? For the types of riding that about 90% of those on here are doing, any glucose-containing drink is fine. We aren't talking double or triple workouts that tri-heads are doing....

The rest of it is a waste of money, imo.
DMG wrote:
100 % correct
You hit the nail right on the head!!
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As you get older, it's worth the time to talk to your doctor about low testosterone. All men have it, just some get symptoms and others don't.
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Tiki wrote:
I had heard that creatine promotes arm pump, it was actually bad for MX, great for muscle bulk. Also inst Muscle Milk the same as Cytomax...
I had heard that creatine promotes arm pump, it was actually bad for MX, great for muscle bulk. Also inst Muscle Milk the same as Cytomax? Same people?

No one saw this, this week? http://www.racerxvt.com/ NASA makes an energy drink. It has my interest.
Creatine doesnt cause arm pump, holding on to the bars to tight does.

Arm pump is caused by non oxigenated blood flowing to slowly through the arms, anything else is a myth.
6/13/2009 8:54am
WhKnuckle wrote:
As you get older, it's worth the time to talk to your doctor about low testosterone. All men have it, just some get symptoms and others...
As you get older, it's worth the time to talk to your doctor about low testosterone. All men have it, just some get symptoms and others don't.
Short of roids, how does one increase testosterone production?
I understand higher cholesterol diets will increase it, but there's certainly a downside there.

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