Silly Season...

LungButter
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11/17/2020 10:56am
With all due respect, I have a hard time not believing this exchange below. I hope it's not true, I'm a fan of the team.


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11/17/2020 11:01am
LungButter wrote:
With all due respect, I have a hard time not believing this exchange below. I hope it's not true, I'm a fan of the team. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/17/459925/s1200_Screenshot_at_Nov_17_11_55_19.jpg[/img]
With all due respect, I have a hard time not believing this exchange below. I hope it's not true, I'm a fan of the team.


Just because your a fan doesn't mean it's not the case... That line isn't going to be short that's for sure.
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11/17/2020 11:08am
LungButter wrote:
With all due respect, I have a hard time not believing this exchange below. I hope it's not true, I'm a fan of the team. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/17/459925/s1200_Screenshot_at_Nov_17_11_55_19.jpg[/img]
With all due respect, I have a hard time not believing this exchange below. I hope it's not true, I'm a fan of the team.


Yep, saw those...My understanding is that Markof's deal was with KTM not Butler...also like I said there are always two sides in any dispute and it's not going to be as simple as Blake not getting paid...the courts will figure it out.
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11/17/2020 11:44am
DonM wrote:
What I find ironic is that everyone in here assumes that Baggett has not been paid....how is that? Maybe Blake is physically unable to perform because...
What I find ironic is that everyone in here assumes that Baggett has not been paid....how is that? Maybe Blake is physically unable to perform because of his wrist injury, maybe he just decided to throw in the towel....remember when RV wanted to retire early? he had to cut a deal with both Monster and Kaw and they settled on him racing the GP's so he wouldn't have to pay back money to Monster Kawi....last I checked contracts are a two way street we may or may not see how this plays out but I can guarantee you that its not as simple as Blake just not getting paid...
LungButter wrote:
Well, it seems pretty telling that there have been several blatant claims of Baggett not being paid along with claims that others have been in the...
Well, it seems pretty telling that there have been several blatant claims of Baggett not being paid along with claims that others have been in the same situation and nobody "in the know" has come to the defense of the Team....except you right now, in a round about way.....but even you aren't saying much by what your saying....

DonM wrote:
Blatant claims by people on vital speculating or with agendas...contract disputes have a way of keeping people in the know quiet...
I can assure you I have no agenda or dog at all in this fight. I don't know Blake, I just made a comment based on what I know for a fact that occurred in the past.
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11/17/2020 11:45am
DonM wrote:
Yep, saw those...My understanding is that Markof's deal was with KTM not Butler...also like I said there are always two sides in any dispute and it's...
Yep, saw those...My understanding is that Markof's deal was with KTM not Butler...also like I said there are always two sides in any dispute and it's not going to be as simple as Blake not getting paid...the courts will figure it out.
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11/17/2020 12:02pm
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soulberg3 wrote:
I'm super hesitant on that link for several reasons 1 - it's dated to 2016 (top of the page) 2 - Davi Millsaps is on the...
I'm super hesitant on that link for several reasons 1 - it's dated to 2016 (top of the page) 2 - Davi Millsaps is on the team running the #18....Outdated info bub.
Outdated, yes, but he's just pointing out that Markolf was at one point part of the team.

https://m.vitalmx.com/news/news/Max-Markolf-Signs-Two-Year-Deal-with-Te…
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DonM wrote:
Yep, saw those...My understanding is that Markof's deal was with KTM not Butler...also like I said there are always two sides in any dispute and it's...
Yep, saw those...My understanding is that Markof's deal was with KTM not Butler...also like I said there are always two sides in any dispute and it's not going to be as simple as Blake not getting paid...the courts will figure it out.
JBlain619 wrote:
I know he was supposed to be on the team but wasn't his contract with KTM? wasn't he placed there by KTM because there wasn't room anywhere else? wasn't this right after they disbanded the Orange Brigade team and the amateur team went to TLD?
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Has this been talked about already??
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DMJ232 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/17/459945/s1200_79BF0F11_E3A3_4897_BF08_E4178E6E69FB.jpg[/img] Has this been talked about already??


Has this been talked about already??
Last I checked he was testing for the team but I’d say that looks pretty official.
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DMJ232 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/17/459945/s1200_79BF0F11_E3A3_4897_BF08_E4178E6E69FB.jpg[/img] Has this been talked about already??


Has this been talked about already??
soulberg3 wrote:
Last I checked he was testing for the team but I’d say that looks pretty official.
Awesome! I’m glad he landed a quality ride!
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11/17/2020 5:05pm
DMJ232 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/17/459945/s1200_79BF0F11_E3A3_4897_BF08_E4178E6E69FB.jpg[/img] Has this been talked about already??


Has this been talked about already??
soulberg3 wrote:
Last I checked he was testing for the team but I’d say that looks pretty official.
Or, he reads Vital and didn't want to raise the ire of the gear geeks, so he decided to coordinate...
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11/17/2020 5:54pm Edited Date/Time 11/17/2020 6:19pm
Just adding to the fodder. No surprises AStars ponied up the most to get Jett (or both Lawrence’s for that matter). I was assuming it’d come to AStars but was also thinking Pete Fox might throw a reasonable offer out to get a high profile ride in his new gear line. With Barcia off their payroll though, I’m sure Jett is securing a nice paycheck from Alpinestars.

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I hope that Jo and Pro Circuit can win some titles together!
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I hope that Jo and Pro Circuit can win some titles together!
I think Star Racing have a pretty stacked team, so will be very difficult for any other team to get a win, that said....you never know!
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11/17/2020 6:28pm
im actually super interested in Forkners plan. is he going to be at the speed he was?

and who is the biggest title threat for each 250 coast coming in
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DMJ232 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/17/459945/s1200_79BF0F11_E3A3_4897_BF08_E4178E6E69FB.jpg[/img] Has this been talked about already??


Has this been talked about already??
soulberg3 wrote:
Last I checked he was testing for the team but I’d say that looks pretty official.
Sully wrote:
Or, he reads Vital and didn't want to raise the ire of the gear geeks, so he decided to coordinate...


Yessssssss!

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11/17/2020 8:51pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2020 8:11am
Here’s a little update of the top 99. Y’all should be able to figure out which class they’re in, you’re vitards. Please add/correct/update as we move through the offseason.

1sx/3mx- Eli Tomac - Monster Kawi
2- Cooper Webb - Redbull Ktm
4- Blake Baggett - likely not racing 2021, formerly RMATVMC Ktm
6- Jeremy Martin - Star Yamaha
7- Aaron Plessinger - Star Yamaha
9- Adam Cianciarulo - Monster Kawi
10- Justin Brayton - Penrite Honda
11- Kyle Chisholm - Privateer
12- Shane McElrath - MCR Honda
14- Dylan Ferrandis - Star Yamaha
15- Dean Wilson - Rockstar Husqvarna
16sx/1mx- Zach Osborne - Rockstar Husqvarna
17- Joey Savatgy - RMATVMC Ktm
18- Jett Lawrence - HRC Honda
19- Justin Bogle - RMATVMC Ktm
20- Broc Tickle - MCR Honda
21- Jason Anderson - Rockstar Husqvarna
23- Chase Sexton - HRC Honda
24- RJ Hampshire - Rockstar Husqvarna
25- Marvin Musquin - Redbull Ktm
26- Alex Martin - Rock River Yamaha
27- Mookie Stewart - Star Yamaha
28- Brandon Hartranft - HEP Suzuki
29- Christian Craig - Star Yamaha
30- Jo Shimoda - Pro Circuit Kawi
31- Cameron McAdoo - Pro Circuit Kawi
32- Justin Cooper - Star Yamaha
33- Derek Drake - Unknown
34- Max Anstie - HEP Suzuki
35- Mitchell Harrison - Unknown
36- Marty Davalos - Ted Tedder Ktm
37- Benny Bloss - MCR Honda
38- Austin Forkner - Pro Circuit Kawi
39- Carson Mumford - FXR Honda
40- Vince Friese - MCR Honda
41- Hunter Lawrence - HRC Honda
42- Michael Mosiman - Redbull GasGas
43- Fredrik Noren - Unknown
44- Tyler Bowers - Privateer Kawi
45- Pierce Brown - Redbull GasGas
46- Justin Hill - Unknown, Formerly MCR
47- Jalek Swoll - Rockstar Husqvarna
48- Garrett Marchbanks - ClubMx Yamaha
49- Mitchell Oldenburg - Penrite Honda
50- Enzo Lopes - Phoenix Honda
51- Justin Barcia - Redbull GasGas
52- Luke Clout - Penrite Honda
53- Jake Masterpool - Unknown
54- Nick Gaines - Unknown
55- John Short - Unknown
56- Kyle Peters - Phoenix Honda
57- Justin Rodbell - SGB Kawi
58- Jacob Hayes - Injured
59- Jarrett Frye - Star Yamaha
60- Chris Blose - AJE GasGas
61- Joey Crown - ClubMx Yamaha
62- Mason Gonzalez - Rock River Yamaha?
63- Martin Castelo - JMC Husqvarna
64- Colt Nichols - Star Yamaha
65- Carson Brown - JMC Husqvarna
66- Jordan Bailey - TiLube Honda
67- Stilez Robertson - Rockstar Husqvarna
68- Jace Owen - ClubMx Yamaha
69- Robbie Wageman - Solitare
70- Henry Miller - Unknown
71- Killian Auberson - Injured
72- Coty Schock - FXR Honda
73- Derek Kelly - AJE GasGas
74- Mitchell Falk - AJE GasGas
75- Ty Masterpool - Last seen riding KTM
76- Grant Harlan - Unknown
77- Jerry Robin - WSR
78- Kyle Cunningham - Unknown
79- Isaac Teasdale - Unknown
80- Jordon Smith - Pro Circuit Kawi
81- Justin Starling - WSR
82- Lorenzo Locurcio - Unknown
83- Alex Ray - SGB Kawi
84- Josh Hill - Unknown
85- Kevin Moranz - Unknown
86- Darian Sanayei - Unknown
87- Curren Thurman - Unknown
88- Logan Karnow - Unknown
89- Ryan Breece - Unknown
90- Dilan Schwartz - BarX Suzuki
91- Nate Thrasher - Star Yamaha
92- Chase Marquier - Unknown
93- Hardy Munoz - Unknown
94- Ken Roczen - HRC Honda
95- Josh Osby - Phoenix Honda
96- Michael Lieb - Unknown
97- Ben Lamay - Unknown
98- Justin Hoeft - Unknown
99- Hunter Sayles - Unknown
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11/17/2020 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 11/17/2020 9:12pm
Here’s a little update of the top 99. Y’all should be able to figure out which class they’re in, you’re vitards. Please add/correct/update as we move...
Here’s a little update of the top 99. Y’all should be able to figure out which class they’re in, you’re vitards. Please add/correct/update as we move through the offseason.

1sx/3mx- Eli Tomac - Monster Kawi
2- Cooper Webb - Redbull Ktm
4- Blake Baggett - likely not racing 2021, formerly RMATVMC Ktm
6- Jeremy Martin - Star Yamaha
7- Aaron Plessinger - Star Yamaha
9- Adam Cianciarulo - Monster Kawi
10- Justin Brayton - Penrite Honda
11- Kyle Chisholm - Privateer
12- Shane McElrath - MCR Honda
14- Dylan Ferrandis - Star Yamaha
15- Dean Wilson - Rockstar Husqvarna
16sx/1mx- Zach Osborne - Rockstar Husqvarna
17- Joey Savatgy - RMATVMC Ktm
18- Jett Lawrence - HRC Honda
19- Justin Bogle - RMATVMC Ktm
20- Broc Tickle - MCR Honda
21- Jason Anderson - Rockstar Husqvarna
23- Chase Sexton - HRC Honda
24- RJ Hampshire - Rockstar Husqvarna
25- Marvin Musquin - Redbull Ktm
26- Alex Martin - Rock River Yamaha
27- Mookie Stewart - Star Yamaha
28- Brandon Hartranft - HEP Suzuki
29- Christian Craig - Star Yamaha
30- Jo Shimoda - Pro Circuit Kawi
31- Cameron McAdoo - Pro Circuit Kawi
32- Justin Cooper - Star Yamaha
33- Derek Drake - Unknown
34- Max Anstie - HEP Suzuki
35- Mitchell Harrison - Unknown
36- Marty Davalos - Ted Tedder Ktm
37- Benny Bloss - MCR Honda
38- Austin Forkner - Pro Circuit Kawi
39- Carson Mumford - FXR Honda
40- Vince Friese - MCR Honda
41- Hunter Lawrence - HRC Honda
42- Michael Mosiman - Redbull GasGas
43- Fredrik Noren - Unknown
44- Tyler Bowers - Privateer Kawi
45- Pierce Brown - Redbull GasGas
46- Justin Hill - Unknown, Formerly MCR
47- Jalek Swoll - Rockstar Husqvarna
48- Garrett Marchbanks - ClubMx Yamaha
49- Mitchell Oldenburg - Penrite Honda
50- Enzo Lopes - Phoenix Honda
51- Justin Barcia - Redbull GasGas
52- Luke Clout - Penrite Honda
53- Jake Masterpool - Unknown
54- Nick Gaines - Unknown
55- John Short - Unknown
56- Kyle Peters - Phoenix Honda
57- Justin Rodbell - SGB Kawi
58- Jacob Hayes - Injured
59- Jarrett Frye - Star Yamaha
60- Chris Blose - AJE GasGas
61- Joey Crown - ClubMx Yamaha
62- Mason Gonzalez - Rock River Yamaha?
63- Martin Castelo - JMC Husqvarna
64- Colt Nichols - Star Yamaha
65- Carson Brown - JMC Husqvarna
66- Jordan Bailey - TiLube Honda
67- Stilez Robertson - Rockstar Husqvarna
68- Jace Owen - ClubMx Yamaha
69- Robbie Wageman - Solitare
70- Henry Miller - Unknown
71- Killian Auberson - Injured
72- Coty Schock - FXR Honda
73- Derek Kelly - AJE GasGas
74- Mitchell Falk - AJE GasGas
75- Ty Masterpool - Last seen riding KTM
76- Grant Harlan - Unknown
77- Jerry Robin - WSR
78- Kyle Cunningham - Unknown
79- Isaac Teasdale - Unknown
80- Jordon Smith - Pro Circuit Kawi
81- Justin Starling - WSR
82- Lorenzo Locurcio - Unknown
83- Alex Ray - SGB Kawi
84- Josh Hill - Unknown
85- Kevin Moranz - Unknown
86- Darian Sanayei - Unknown
87- Curren Thurman - Unknown
88- Logan Karnow - Unknown
89- Ryan Breece - Unknown
90- Dilan Schwartz - BarX Suzuki
91- Nate Thrasher - Star Yamaha
92- Chase Marquier - Unknown
93- Hardy Munoz - Unknown
94- Ken Roczen - HRC Honda
95- Josh Osby - Phoenix Honda
96- Michael Lieb - Unknown
97- Ben Lamay - Unknown
98- Justin Hoeft - Unknown
99- Hunter Sayles - Unknown
Right on
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^^^ Karnow is not riding for PRMX Kawasaki.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
^^^ Karnow is not riding for PRMX Kawasaki.
Updated, thought the owner Julien mentioned he was but I’m mistaken.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
^^^ Karnow is not riding for PRMX Kawasaki.
Updated, thought the owner Julien mentioned he was but I’m mistaken.
450 Cade Clason
450 Josh Cartwright
250 Dakota Alix
250 Justin Thompson

And 2 more 250 guys that haven't been announced yet.
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11/17/2020 9:36pm Edited Date/Time 11/17/2020 9:37pm
Mumford on Lindsay’s team... Lopes and Peters on Phoenix and isn’t Brown and Castelo on JMC?
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Jordan Bailey - TiLube Honda
Kyle Peters - Phoenix Racing Honda
Josh Osby - Phoenix Racing Honda
Mitchell Oldenburg - Penrite Honda
Martin Castelo - JMC Motorsports Husqvarna
Sully
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11/17/2020 10:20pm
Where did the "Ty Masterpool – Last seen riding a KTM" come from? I don't remember seeing that in any of these threads.
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11/17/2020 11:26pm Edited Date/Time 11/17/2020 11:27pm
Just saw the social scoop section, CW2 trolling everyone on Insta saying that ET3 is his training partner for the year. Coop has a nice sense of humor, or the 1 in a million chances happened and the shit hit the fan for the competition. Cool pix regardless.
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11/17/2020 11:30pm Edited Date/Time 11/17/2020 11:33pm
RalphS wrote:
Just saw the social scoop section, CW2 trolling everyone on Insta saying that ET3 is his training partner for the year. Coop has a nice sense...
Just saw the social scoop section, CW2 trolling everyone on Insta saying that ET3 is his training partner for the year. Coop has a nice sense of humor, or the 1 in a million chances happened and the shit hit the fan for the competition. Cool pix regardless.
I'm pretty sure it was a Bell photoshoot day and Webb was trolling
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11/18/2020 5:49am
Sully wrote:
Where did the "Ty Masterpool – Last seen riding a KTM" come from? I don't remember seeing that in any of these threads.
Last I saw on his social media is that he was still riding a Monster star Yamaha bike, quite a bit after the "official" team announcement and he was not in that announcement
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11/18/2020 6:52am
How come Ty Masterpool isn’t riding SX? I can’t see why a 250 team hasn’t swooped him up? He holeshot practically every race he entered and lead almost every lap of Red Bud last year. Certainly has serious potential to win outdoors a lot more than some of these other guys with factory support rides.
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