2021 Honda CRF450 Works edition-November arrival date? ML512 or keefer?

llaliberte22 11/1/2020 9:40am
11/1/2020 9:40am
Bineano wrote:
I believe I misheard Dealer #1, as Dealer #2 said 30 units as well. But seriously, 30 units across Canada still makes them almost unobtainable 😖
I have a split opinion on that...

On one side, like you said, why didn't they imported more of them to stimulate sale and traffic in dealership!?

On the other side...
MX market in Canada is pretty small, with bike being already$10k-$12k, I don't think the market for a $17k (otd)dirtbike is that much bigger. It also makes this bike a truly unique bike, it makes it exclusive. I like to have things that very few people have.

I do believe that Honda Canada didn't event think they would sell those 30 bike. It was also probably a test for future years.

When they opened the site for reservation, it was fairly easy to get one as long as your deposit went through. You needed to be there early and ready to refresh your browser tho. I went on the website 10 minutes after the launch and they were gone, but honestly it was only out of curiosity as I wasn't really interested, I'm waiting for the 2022 250. But yeah, if you didn't get the memo of the time and how to reserve, you were pretty screwed.
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I talked to a Honda power house dealer in the southeast, he told me “he’s not getting a WE” that basically there won’t be a 21 model. Honda will wait until spring or summer, and release it as the 22. This sounds crazy if true, but that’s the information I got.
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rjs3118 11/1/2020 2:27pm
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Pink wrote:
I talked to a Honda power house dealer in the southeast, he told me “he’s not getting a WE” that basically there won’t be a 21...
I talked to a Honda power house dealer in the southeast, he told me “he’s not getting a WE” that basically there won’t be a 21 model. Honda will wait until spring or summer, and release it as the 22. This sounds crazy if true, but that’s the information I got.
Wow that is crazy. I hope that’s not true. My dealer seemed to believe the rep who said 12/30. I don’t know how other manufacturers can release all their models and Honda can be so behind on production.
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LKHill 11/1/2020 3:12pm
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rjs3118 wrote:
Wow that is crazy. I hope that’s not true. My dealer seemed to believe the rep who said 12/30. I don’t know how other manufacturers can...
Wow that is crazy. I hope that’s not true. My dealer seemed to believe the rep who said 12/30. I don’t know how other manufacturers can release all their models and Honda can be so behind on production.
Honda had to push enough out the door to make them race legal. Anything beyond that is pure speculation at this point.

It's not just Honda. Other brands are just trickling in. If I am correct the trickle will dry up without a whimper.

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G MONEY 11/1/2020 8:46pm
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has anyone ordered one or received one yet or a date.

Honda is telling us December we are getting 1 for the year no deposit yet nor cal
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Pink wrote:
I talked to a Honda power house dealer in the southeast, he told me “he’s not getting a WE” that basically there won’t be a 21...
I talked to a Honda power house dealer in the southeast, he told me “he’s not getting a WE” that basically there won’t be a 21 model. Honda will wait until spring or summer, and release it as the 22. This sounds crazy if true, but that’s the information I got.
rjs3118 wrote:
Wow that is crazy. I hope that’s not true. My dealer seemed to believe the rep who said 12/30. I don’t know how other manufacturers can...
Wow that is crazy. I hope that’s not true. My dealer seemed to believe the rep who said 12/30. I don’t know how other manufacturers can release all their models and Honda can be so behind on production.
we have had 2021 Honda Kawasaki Yamaha order in august no show not even a pw50 which msrp is 1649. now more than a crf50
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rjs3118 11/2/2020 3:31am
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we have had 2021 Honda Kawasaki Yamaha order in august no show not even a pw50 which msrp is 1649. now more than a crf50
Crazy. Why even set up a press day and test these bikes if no one can fing find them or buy them? Just come out and let people know
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SwapperMX 11/2/2020 6:16am
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Crazy. Why even set up a press day and test these bikes if no one can fing find them or buy them? Just come out and...
Crazy. Why even set up a press day and test these bikes if no one can fing find them or buy them? Just come out and let people know
Because they know that they will lose those customers, possibly forever. They'd rather have guys hanging on and waiting, not knowing when their bike is going to show up rather than giving conservative or honest release dates which could be 6 months or more away, as many of those guys will go buy something else. It's easier to tell people it's only a few weeks away, which then turns in to months as most will be waiting with bated breath for their new bike. The complete opposite of under promise, over deliver.
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rjs3118 11/2/2020 6:38am
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rjs3118 wrote:
Crazy. Why even set up a press day and test these bikes if no one can fing find them or buy them? Just come out and...
Crazy. Why even set up a press day and test these bikes if no one can fing find them or buy them? Just come out and let people know
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Because they know that they will lose those customers, possibly forever. They'd rather have guys hanging on and waiting, not knowing when their bike is going...
Because they know that they will lose those customers, possibly forever. They'd rather have guys hanging on and waiting, not knowing when their bike is going to show up rather than giving conservative or honest release dates which could be 6 months or more away, as many of those guys will go buy something else. It's easier to tell people it's only a few weeks away, which then turns in to months as most will be waiting with bated breath for their new bike. The complete opposite of under promise, over deliver.
I get it but at least announce there will be delays or delay your intros instead of just pretending that there’s “nothing to see here”. Seems to create more people pissed off than if they just postponed it
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quadzrulebro 11/2/2020 6:40am
11/2/2020 6:40am
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike that hasn’t done well in shootouts up to this point and will immediately require a remap. I get that it’s pretty, but geez. That red Kool-Aid is some potent stuff!
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mxrider118 11/5/2020 11:43am
11/5/2020 11:43am
Bineano wrote:
I believe I misheard Dealer #1, as Dealer #2 said 30 units as well. But seriously, 30 units across Canada still makes them almost unobtainable 😖
llaliberte22 wrote:
I have a split opinion on that... On one side, like you said, why didn't they imported more of them to stimulate sale and traffic in...
I have a split opinion on that...

On one side, like you said, why didn't they imported more of them to stimulate sale and traffic in dealership!?

On the other side...
MX market in Canada is pretty small, with bike being already$10k-$12k, I don't think the market for a $17k (otd)dirtbike is that much bigger. It also makes this bike a truly unique bike, it makes it exclusive. I like to have things that very few people have.

I do believe that Honda Canada didn't event think they would sell those 30 bike. It was also probably a test for future years.

When they opened the site for reservation, it was fairly easy to get one as long as your deposit went through. You needed to be there early and ready to refresh your browser tho. I went on the website 10 minutes after the launch and they were gone, but honestly it was only out of curiosity as I wasn't really interested, I'm waiting for the 2022 250. But yeah, if you didn't get the memo of the time and how to reserve, you were pretty screwed.
llaliberte22 - which dealer are you ? so only Quebec is getting the works edition?
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dura max 11/5/2020 1:48pm
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike...
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike that hasn’t done well in shootouts up to this point and will immediately require a remap. I get that it’s pretty, but geez. That red Kool-Aid is some potent stuff!
I have a similar opinion but with respect to the KX. Substandard chain guide, chain rollers and clutch. Broken muffler mounts and easy to strip bolt holes.
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llaliberte22 11/5/2020 4:02pm
11/5/2020 4:02pm Edited Date/Time 11/5/2020 4:05pm
mxrider118 wrote:
llaliberte22 - which dealer are you ? so only Quebec is getting the works edition?
Sherbrooke. Not my dealership, but my family is pretty close friend to the owner. They were available across Canada but I think most of them with be in ON and QC.

If your deposit was charged to your card and you were able to get a reservation number, you got one for sure. It is just a waiting game
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cloud41 11/6/2020 4:21am
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike...
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike that hasn’t done well in shootouts up to this point and will immediately require a remap. I get that it’s pretty, but geez. That red Kool-Aid is some potent stuff!
Right... people have lost their minds. I’d say the majority of the bikes are financed too.
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quadzrulebro 11/6/2020 5:29am
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike...
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike that hasn’t done well in shootouts up to this point and will immediately require a remap. I get that it’s pretty, but geez. That red Kool-Aid is some potent stuff!
dura max wrote:
I have a similar opinion but with respect to the KX. Substandard chain guide, chain rollers and clutch. Broken muffler mounts and easy to strip bolt...
I have a similar opinion but with respect to the KX. Substandard chain guide, chain rollers and clutch. Broken muffler mounts and easy to strip bolt holes.
For sure there are issues with all bikes, but I don’t hear about people putting down deposits on bikes that may or may not show up and negotiating deals over MSRP on any other bikes.
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dura max 11/6/2020 9:30am
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quadzrulebro wrote:
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike...
I can’t believe people are willing to put down deposits months in advance with no real ETA and pay MSRP or more for a flawed bike that hasn’t done well in shootouts up to this point and will immediately require a remap. I get that it’s pretty, but geez. That red Kool-Aid is some potent stuff!
dura max wrote:
I have a similar opinion but with respect to the KX. Substandard chain guide, chain rollers and clutch. Broken muffler mounts and easy to strip bolt...
I have a similar opinion but with respect to the KX. Substandard chain guide, chain rollers and clutch. Broken muffler mounts and easy to strip bolt holes.
quadzrulebro wrote:
For sure there are issues with all bikes, but I don’t hear about people putting down deposits on bikes that may or may not show up...
For sure there are issues with all bikes, but I don’t hear about people putting down deposits on bikes that may or may not show up and negotiating deals over MSRP on any other bikes.
I agree. I guess these are the same folks who vote for higher taxes. More money than sense. Drives the price up for everyone else.
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rjs3118 11/10/2020 8:27am
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Anyone heard any new info?
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rmgsxr 11/10/2020 8:51am
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rjs3118 wrote:
Anyone heard any new info?
Just noticed that the ship date has changed. It was 12/30 and it is now 12/7.
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rjs3118 11/10/2020 9:11am
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rjs3118 wrote:
Anyone heard any new info?
rmgsxr wrote:
Just noticed that the ship date has changed. It was 12/30 and it is now 12/7.
Really?! Where’d you see that? That would be awesome
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rmgsxr 11/10/2020 11:15am
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rjs3118 wrote:
Anyone heard any new info?
rmgsxr wrote:
Just noticed that the ship date has changed. It was 12/30 and it is now 12/7.
rjs3118 wrote:
Really?! Where’d you see that? That would be awesome
I sell them and that was on our dealer order statement.
mxrider118 11/10/2020 12:07pm
11/10/2020 12:07pm
my honda email still shows anticipated date of Nov 2020. Called dealer still no update.
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rjs3118 11/10/2020 12:11pm
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rmgsxr wrote:
Just noticed that the ship date has changed. It was 12/30 and it is now 12/7.
rjs3118 wrote:
Really?! Where’d you see that? That would be awesome
rmgsxr wrote:
I sell them and that was on our dealer order statement.
That’s great news!
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MontyMX815 11/10/2020 12:37pm
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rjs3118 wrote:
I’m paying just over 12k for a WE out the door. Can’t speak to anyone else’s deal. I know they are severely limited.
JohnMatrix wrote:
Wow...I wish. I've been quoted 12,480 OTD for a standard R in California. I'll wait a year for prices to come out of the clouds.
Got mine last week. $9321 out the door. Was just the R but still, Gotta love NOT living in California.
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rjs3118 11/10/2020 12:50pm
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I’m paying just over 12k for a WE out the door. Can’t speak to anyone else’s deal. I know they are severely limited.
JohnMatrix wrote:
Wow...I wish. I've been quoted 12,480 OTD for a standard R in California. I'll wait a year for prices to come out of the clouds.
MontyMX815 wrote:
Got mine last week. $9321 out the door. Was just the R but still, Gotta love NOT living in California. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/11/10/458479/s1200_IMG_7878.jpg[/img]
Got mine last week. $9321 out the door. Was just the R but still, Gotta love NOT living in California.
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mxrider118 11/20/2020 5:24am
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one month later and still no sign of it or news.
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G MONEY 11/24/2020 5:46pm
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getting 1 mid December no deposit yet 888-810-2846
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rjs3118 11/24/2020 7:01pm
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G MONEY wrote:
getting 1 mid December no deposit yet 888-810-2846
Me too. Have they mentioned anything to you recently? I've had mine on order since August
mxrider118 11/25/2020 9:55am
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havent heard anything on mine ordered in august as well
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Steve125 wrote:
My dealer says I don't need to give him a deposit but the bike is definitely mine. If he tries to jack the price due to...
My dealer says I don't need to give him a deposit but the bike is definitely mine. If he tries to jack the price due to demand I'm out.. I'll pick up something else since I already sold my 450. My buddy has a 20 YZ450 with about 20 minutes on it for 8K.. Good enough for me..
Buy the GasGas Steve. Between you me and the lamppost I paid like $3700 less for my GasGas 450 than the $12,500 that I was quoted when we last spoke and I was going to get the WE that fizzled out pretty quickly when my dealer was told that he wasn't getting any until perhaps next yr. I rode a 21 Honda the other day at Central and I didn't like it. I feel the 20 Honda that I rode at NHMX last yr was a better bike. Just my humble opinion friend :-)
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