how do you improve cardio ?

6/4/2020 2:12pm
I've found rowing to be the best. Cycling doesn't work your upper body out at all.
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Concept 2 Skierg is the best thing ever I love it. That and some mountain biking has got me in better shape where I can ride longer at least.
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6/4/2020 9:07pm
Moto520 wrote:
Elliptical machine is great for cardio. It is way less stressful on your joints (in comparison to running) and will give you great results.
Yes

My knees are bad enough that getting up or down bleachers is something that requires forethought so running is a non starter but a good elliptical actually makes my knee feel good.
6/4/2020 11:09pm
Did you consider swimming? Start slowly and try to increase session after session. No stress on knees, no traffic, no danger and the sanitizers they usually put in the water are a good defense against viruses

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Swimming.
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jleews6 wrote:
I'm just getting back into riding and I'm really having a hard time with my cardio. I have a hard time completing one lap and I'm...
I'm just getting back into riding and I'm really having a hard time with my cardio. I have a hard time completing one lap and I'm spent. I know I'm old but what do some of you do to improve your cardio ? Thanks
If you're just getting back into riding and your old, then the best answer is to keep riding. Slow down your pace but dont stop. Keep going lap after lap, go slower and focus on technique. Your heart rate will stay high and your cardio will come.

It's the same as running or riding a stationary bike; both of which or boring as hell. You'll also be able to push your body harder because you'll be having more fun.

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6/5/2020 7:29am
Did you consider swimming? Start slowly and try to increase session after session. No stress on knees, no traffic, no danger and the sanitizers they usually...
Did you consider swimming? Start slowly and try to increase session after session. No stress on knees, no traffic, no danger and the sanitizers they usually put in the water are a good defense against viruses
Really excellent activity for getting rid of the belly fat.
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6/5/2020 8:22am Edited Date/Time 6/5/2020 8:24am
How old are you guys who are recommending running? That will put a hurting on your joints. Road/mountain bike, rower, stair master are my preferred. Low...
How old are you guys who are recommending running? That will put a hurting on your joints. Road/mountain bike, rower, stair master are my preferred. Low impact and can manipulate to get your heart rate wherever you want
Not really 100% accurate. Proper form, proper RUNNING shoes, go a long ways to making running comfortable.

Running wrong can indeed hurt you. And unless you have done it and learned it, you are probably running wrong. Done right the impact on your joints is minimal and can actually improve joint function.

I know a little about running.
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Did you consider swimming? Start slowly and try to increase session after session. No stress on knees, no traffic, no danger and the sanitizers they usually...
Did you consider swimming? Start slowly and try to increase session after session. No stress on knees, no traffic, no danger and the sanitizers they usually put in the water are a good defense against viruses
Tuna wrote:
Really excellent activity for getting rid of the belly fat.
Also, swimming. You would be surprised how much of a workout it is! When I was training, a 2 hour pool session made me HUNGRY lol. The first time I was in the pool I was shocked at how much work it was, my arms and shoulders were trashed after 10 minutes. But in the end my longest session was approaching 3 hours. Incredible muscle tone and overall cardio!
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6/5/2020 9:14am Edited Date/Time 6/5/2020 9:23am
How old are you guys who are recommending running? That will put a hurting on your joints. Road/mountain bike, rower, stair master are my preferred. Low...
How old are you guys who are recommending running? That will put a hurting on your joints. Road/mountain bike, rower, stair master are my preferred. Low impact and can manipulate to get your heart rate wherever you want
thephoenix wrote:
Not really 100% accurate. Proper form, proper RUNNING shoes, go a long ways to making running comfortable. Running wrong can indeed hurt you. And unless you...
Not really 100% accurate. Proper form, proper RUNNING shoes, go a long ways to making running comfortable.

Running wrong can indeed hurt you. And unless you have done it and learned it, you are probably running wrong. Done right the impact on your joints is minimal and can actually improve joint function.

I know a little about running.
I'm 54 and find that running and rowing on my C2 work the best for me. I also do jump rope just to mix it up somewhat. I do a mix of "long and slow" and interval training. It's was mentioned earlier about "tabata" but "tabata" is just a particular regimen of high intensity interval training.

The "long and slow" is what I consider to be something that I do for 45 min to 60 min where I can have a conversation while doing it. This can mean running at a slow pace and even having to stop and walk if I am going up a hill.

High intensity intervals is anything where you go as hard as you can go for a short time (30 sec or so), then a short rest (30s to 60s) and repeat for 5-10 min worth of effort, BUT YOU MUST WARM UP FIRST for about 10 min or so with anything.

A completely unscientific but still reasonably efficient training regimen (FOR A WEEKEND WARRIOR) would be something like:

- Long and slow 2x-3x a week
- HIT 1x a week

And then add or subtract the HIT if you ride on the weekend or don't.

The HIT is very efficient to build cardio, but because you suffer, its not much fun. The long and slow works well to mix it in and you really do benefit from a base level of fitness. Its more fun to run, row, or cycle when you can actually enjoy what you are doing and not about to vomit.

The TL;DR is "go slow" to "go faster" when it comes to building that cardio base. Go slow enough to have fun doing it. Mix in an interval or two. At 54 I can easily do a 20 min moto at full pace when doing a regimen like this.



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6/5/2020 10:18am
The "Long Slow Distance" effort run is the base builder for sure. I did an initial 8 week cycle of pure LSD to get the base aerobic fitness in before any speedwork. Once you have a base, you need to learn to do those hard/intense/painful runs on a periodic basis to edge fitness higher so that at the end of the moto when you are hurting, you know it's just pain and your body can push through it. Most MX work is done at the anaerobic level, but the trick is the higher the base aerobic level is, the higher than anaerobic threshold is and the longer you can keep it redlined before falling on your face LOL.

Hell, 5k sprint racers regularly run 15-20k slow runs exactly for that reason. Without a high level of base aerobic fitness, speedwork is almost useless.

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6/5/2020 11:39am
Concept 2.
It's brutal, but fun.
I wanted to see how high I could get my heart rate...I thought I was going to die!

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