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Any of you guys watching this man MJ really was on a whole other level from the rest of the players in the league.

The dude was ruthless--to his teammates, management and even the owner, the press anybody that stood in his way of doing what he admitted, he was obsessed with and that was WINNING! He never lost an NBA finals series that he competed in and ultimately won 5.

He said he would do anything, just to win the game.

MJ truly is the goat of NBA basketball I don't even know how anybody could question that.

If you need a reminder episode 5 is tonight (ESPN) and you can catch up on the previous 4 episodes on Demand.

I saw an interview with MJ before the series came out and he said "people aren't gonna like me after watching this". That is a bold statement my friends! Smile

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28973557/the-last-dance-updates-unt…

Watching him in his youth through high school and college and as a rookie you can just see his HUGE advancement each year.

I remember watching him in the NCAA playoffs and he won the game and the tournament for North Carolina Tarheels and I called my good buddy and told him have you seen this Michael Jordan guy he's gonna be something.

There is no way in hell I would have known he would become one of the most recognizable guys on the planet. Woohoo


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Yes, started watching it Friday night. Pretty darned good so far. Gotta feel a little sorry for Scottie, although he still did ok. Woohoo

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5/3/2020 8:57pm Edited Date/Time 5/3/2020 9:37pm
1997 NBA Finals Utah vs Chicago. I'm in Salt Lake City for a week on business during the playoffs. After a couple of days we found a place called the Market Street Oyster Bar. Good bar good food and that became the hang out for the rest of the week. The night before game 5 we're hanging at the bar. Place is packed and in walks about half the Bulls team and their coaching staff Phil Jackson included, standing right behind me waiting for the banquet room to be prepared for them. MJ wasn't with them. I Turned around and said hey coach how's it going. We shot the s*** for about 10 minutes until the back room was ready wished him good luck and said goodbye. Phil was a cool guy. MJ apparently had some bad pizza that night in his hotel room and got food poisoning. Game 5 would be known as the flu game. We didn't have tickets for the game the next night but I convinced my friend to go with me down to the Delta Center to see if we could score some scalper tickets. I wasn't expecting much because it was Salt Lake and you couldn't even drink in a bar without buying a membership of some sort or having a local sponsor you to allow you to drink. Little did we know that scalping tickets was legal in Utah. Tickets were everywhere. I paid $110 for a mid-level seat and watched MJ hit a 3-pointer with 25 seconds to go to ice the game. Best business trip I ever had.
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How about on last nights show about his Nike contract? They expected to sell $3-5mil in shoes his rookie year, they sold over $100mil!!!

...and they signed him for $250k.
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been a very cool series, with a really good look behind the scenes,
the underpayment of Scottie Pippen, teh dream team and Scotty and MJ going after Cukoc, the Nike deal, all have all been really interesting,

but like the OP, he was just that much better than anyone, and hated to lose so bad he wouldnt let it happen,

found the parts about Rodman real interesting as well,

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The older and the behind the scenes footage has been pretty epic all around.

That Dream Team practice segment was awesome - can you imagine sitting court side watching that?
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Bad Boys for life. Fuck MJ
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Pretty sure it was 6, not 5. 3 before retiring and 3 after retiring. At least that's how I remember it. Smile
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Pretty unreal. Just the level of cuntiness too... everything was personal, an insult, a competition...

Some fuckin plumbers playing in the league back then. It's weird. They let em play really rough and hard defense – but at the same time the athletic level is nothing like it is now.

Only thing i'd say about the doc is it's really biased – he's had final say on all of it. The Isiah stuff obviously... gambling... any controversy etc, would be awesome if it was no holds barred....
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5/5/2020 8:44am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2020 8:50pm
ocscottie wrote:
How about on last nights show about his Nike contract? They expected to sell $3-5mil in shoes his rookie year, they sold over $100mil!!! ...and they...
How about on last nights show about his Nike contract? They expected to sell $3-5mil in shoes his rookie year, they sold over $100mil!!!

...and they signed him for $250k.
No, it's even more crazy.

They wanted $3M by year 4. They made $126M in year one!

And they fucking paid 70 bucks for their logo. Cunts!
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BMSOBx2 wrote:
1997 NBA Finals Utah vs Chicago. I'm in Salt Lake City for a week on business during the playoffs. After a couple of days we found...
1997 NBA Finals Utah vs Chicago. I'm in Salt Lake City for a week on business during the playoffs. After a couple of days we found a place called the Market Street Oyster Bar. Good bar good food and that became the hang out for the rest of the week. The night before game 5 we're hanging at the bar. Place is packed and in walks about half the Bulls team and their coaching staff Phil Jackson included, standing right behind me waiting for the banquet room to be prepared for them. MJ wasn't with them. I Turned around and said hey coach how's it going. We shot the s*** for about 10 minutes until the back room was ready wished him good luck and said goodbye. Phil was a cool guy. MJ apparently had some bad pizza that night in his hotel room and got food poisoning. Game 5 would be known as the flu game. We didn't have tickets for the game the next night but I convinced my friend to go with me down to the Delta Center to see if we could score some scalper tickets. I wasn't expecting much because it was Salt Lake and you couldn't even drink in a bar without buying a membership of some sort or having a local sponsor you to allow you to drink. Little did we know that scalping tickets was legal in Utah. Tickets were everywhere. I paid $110 for a mid-level seat and watched MJ hit a 3-pointer with 25 seconds to go to ice the game. Best business trip I ever had.
MJ broke our hearts, twice.
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5/5/2020 10:31am Edited Date/Time 5/5/2020 10:32am
peelout wrote:
MJ broke our hearts, twice.
Stockton and Malone never got their due. Those were some great teams.
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I'm a Chicago native so I'm biased but MJ is the GOAT. Nothing like him today. You watch the documentary and one major thing hits hard. They were men, they played like men and acted like men. Athletes now are big ass babies always whining about something and blaming someone else.
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Pretty sure it was 6, not 5. 3 before retiring and 3 after retiring. At least that's how I remember it. Smile
Oops, Well he's even better than I thought then 6 and 0! Woohoo

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MJ broke our hearts, twice.
Yeah he got us once in the 92/93 season against the Suns in the finals.

We had just won game 4 a triple overtime thriller in Chicago.

Momentum was on our side for game 5 in Phx we had a 4 point lead with less than a minute to go and Michael grabs the rebound and goes coast to coast.

After that we were keyed on him and he dishes the ball to Paxon who nailed a 3 and the rest is history.
I was at the game it was so freaking loud and when he hit that shot you could hear a pin drop! Sad

I still have nightmares that was a good team of Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Dan Marleigh, Tom chambers and the rookie sensation Richard Dumas who ultimately would have drug issues and drop out of the league.....Dizzy
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peelout wrote:
MJ broke our hearts, twice.
G-man wrote:
Yeah he got us once in the 92/93 season against the Suns in the finals. We had just won game 4 a triple overtime thriller in...
Yeah he got us once in the 92/93 season against the Suns in the finals.

We had just won game 4 a triple overtime thriller in Chicago.

Momentum was on our side for game 5 in Phx we had a 4 point lead with less than a minute to go and Michael grabs the rebound and goes coast to coast.

After that we were keyed on him and he dishes the ball to Paxon who nailed a 3 and the rest is history.
I was at the game it was so freaking loud and when he hit that shot you could hear a pin drop! Sad

I still have nightmares that was a good team of Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Dan Marleigh, Tom chambers and the rookie sensation Richard Dumas who ultimately would have drug issues and drop out of the league.....Dizzy
That's so badass you were there!
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That's so badass you were there!
Thanks
It was my 1st year as a ticket holder as they just built America West arena and I worked for the airline.
They just signed Charles Barkley and when I found out on the radio that's when I signed up. It was a fantastic season until the end.

Go to the finals against Michael Jordan my 1st year as a ticket holder and we haven't been back since--talk about a tease! Unsure
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Thanks It was my 1st year as a ticket holder as they just built America West arena and I worked for the airline. They just signed...
Thanks
It was my 1st year as a ticket holder as they just built America West arena and I worked for the airline.
They just signed Charles Barkley and when I found out on the radio that's when I signed up. It was a fantastic season until the end.

Go to the finals against Michael Jordan my 1st year as a ticket holder and we haven't been back since--talk about a tease! Unsure
Book needs some help for sure! Don't think your front office is great though right?

I've been to a couple instant classic cricket, league and rugby matches here. Live sports when it's a historical game is pretty unbelievable!
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Book needs some help for sure! Don't think your front office is great though right? I've been to a couple instant classic cricket, league and rugby...
Book needs some help for sure! Don't think your front office is great though right?

I've been to a couple instant classic cricket, league and rugby matches here. Live sports when it's a historical game is pretty unbelievable!
Yep live sports when there is a lot on the line like the playoffs is pretty damn exciting Yes Book need some help having a number one draft pick a few years ago would help but hasn't quite panned out yet as DeAndre Ayton is going thru some inconsistencies--there is some potential.

Ever since Jerry Colengeo sold the team to Robert Sarver it's been a struggle.
The Steve Nash years were good (7 seconds or less was awesome!) but couldn't get pass the Spurs the crooked Ref Tim Donahae (who did jail time, and ref'd those CRUCIAL Suns games!) and Robert Horry when he pushed Nash into the boards when we had them on the ropes....Angry
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No, it's even more crazy. They wanted $3M by year 4. They made $126M in year one! And they fucking paid 70 bucks for their logo...
No, it's even more crazy.

They wanted $3M by year 4. They made $126M in year one!

And they fucking paid 70 bucks for their logo. Cunts!
That’s not entirely true. They paid $35 which adjusted for inflation was something like $220. That’s probably a months worth of income for a graphic design student in college.

Nike was a very small company still.

Years later they gifted the logo designer Nike stock at a special event in her honor. No one knows what the value of the stock is but rumor is it’s several million dollars.

I think she was well taken care of.
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That was a great time in NBA, never really stayed interested after that Era.
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That’s not entirely true. They paid $35 which adjusted for inflation was something like $220. That’s probably a months worth of income for a graphic design...
That’s not entirely true. They paid $35 which adjusted for inflation was something like $220. That’s probably a months worth of income for a graphic design student in college.

Nike was a very small company still.

Years later they gifted the logo designer Nike stock at a special event in her honor. No one knows what the value of the stock is but rumor is it’s several million dollars.

I think she was well taken care of.
Ya I read about the stocks last night but I think I remembered 70 from years ago beint an Aussie article... still... Fuck all, especially since it’s still going. Crazy.
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So now my phone is bringing up Michael Jordan stuff. 😂

Anyway this is pretty good (peely might not like it... 😜), it's MJ's revenge stories.....

https://youtu.be/ws7cq2PxWMQ



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crowe176 wrote:
Bad Boys for life. Fuck MJ
That was a bit aggressive lol. I’d just like to add, I recognize MJ is the stud GOAT of all humans and this documentary is awesome. I just really loved the Pistons when I was a kid. It’s wild to see how Isaiah Thomas was/is through his competition’s perspective though. I used to think he was the ultimate competitor, but it looks like he might have been/is a bit of a kook haha. I hope they do more of these 10 part docs though. Tyson would be a great subject for one of these long form docs.
5/9/2020 2:59pm
Me and my wife are hooked. I remember following tue NBA for a year back in 93-94. Every kid in my school who played basketball wanted to be MJ. Haven’t watched a game or touched a basketball since.
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Are his baseball cards worth anything? Got one stashed away here somewhere.
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Michael Jordan was obviously a great, great player.

But I can’t imagine any player truly stacks up to what Wilt Chamberlain did in his career.
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Michael Jordan was obviously a great, great player.

But I can’t imagine any player truly stacks up to what Wilt Chamberlain did in his career.
Chamberlain was ahead of his time as an athlete in the era he played much like Jim Brown in the NFL.
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Kareem.
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Kareem.
Kareem was a very good overall player, but Wilt was in another stratosphere......




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This series just gets better and better. Can’t wait for the Reggie Miller parts!

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