SIDE PANELS WITH small numbers

trick121
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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 5:23pm

10 steps backwards IMO.

I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers.

Most guys were using the small numbers on the sidepanels which made it impossible for me know who was who. Once the front number plate got muddy it was guessing game.

Initially, I struggled with differentiating Stroupe, Weimer, Pourcel, and 411. First lap had no idea who the two Honda rider were putting the hurt to the 250 field.

I believe you need to watch the race from the fence to see who is who.

MOST IMPORTANTLY I DIDN'T SEE ONE SPONSOR STICKER ON THE SIDE PANELS.

Euros have no clue how to run a show...why are we copying them?





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5/23/2009 9:50pm
seriously, it even looks "bad" on TV/Online....the small sidepanel #'s are ridiculous....
trick121
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5/23/2009 10:18pm
Glade somebody agrees because I thought I was the only one. Foolish idea.
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5/23/2009 10:19pm
They looked REALLY stupid... I don't care for them either
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trick121 wrote:
10 steps backwards IMO. I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers. Most guys...

10 steps backwards IMO.

I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers.

Most guys were using the small numbers on the sidepanels which made it impossible for me know who was who. Once the front number plate got muddy it was guessing game.

Initially, I struggled with differentiating Stroupe, Weimer, Pourcel, and 411. First lap had no idea who the two Honda rider were putting the hurt to the 250 field.

I believe you need to watch the race from the fence to see who is who.

MOST IMPORTANTLY I DIDN'T SEE ONE SPONSOR STICKER ON THE SIDE PANELS.

Euros have no clue how to run a show...why are we copying them?





At first I thought this idea was going to be very cool, but after watching the race on TV you couldn't tell who was who. Fans need to know where their riders are and if we can't tell, it is frustrating.

Maybe, it would be better if the riders or teams put large sponsor logo's on the side plates, but when teams put two or more riders in the same gear and helmet they all look the same.

Remember NSCAR. Motorcycle racing needs to find area for sponsorship signage on the bikes, but this isn't working.

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5/23/2009 11:23pm
trick121 wrote:
10 steps backwards IMO. I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers. Most guys...

10 steps backwards IMO.

I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers.

Most guys were using the small numbers on the sidepanels which made it impossible for me know who was who. Once the front number plate got muddy it was guessing game.

Initially, I struggled with differentiating Stroupe, Weimer, Pourcel, and 411. First lap had no idea who the two Honda rider were putting the hurt to the 250 field.

I believe you need to watch the race from the fence to see who is who.

MOST IMPORTANTLY I DIDN'T SEE ONE SPONSOR STICKER ON THE SIDE PANELS.

Euros have no clue how to run a show...why are we copying them?





Yeah I agree, I had posted the same thing the other day and the reaction was the complete opposite from what we all are agreeing on. When you have 4 guys on a team that all wear identical gear its hard to tell whos who. Thats what numbers are for
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5/23/2009 11:28pm
A few of the side plates looked good but some looked really bad, the PC bikes looked the worst.
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5/24/2009 12:11am
The small numbers were really irritating. There's nothing worse than watching a race and not knowing who is who.

The front number is still full size ... but that's the first thing that gets covered with mud. Then you are left trying to decipher the side panels. Even with binnocs it was a pain.

Go back to the original large side plate numbers. And back to the drawing boards for figuring out more sponsor area.
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5/24/2009 12:24am
trick121 wrote:
10 steps backwards IMO. I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers. Most guys...

10 steps backwards IMO.

I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers.

Most guys were using the small numbers on the sidepanels which made it impossible for me know who was who. Once the front number plate got muddy it was guessing game.

Initially, I struggled with differentiating Stroupe, Weimer, Pourcel, and 411. First lap had no idea who the two Honda rider were putting the hurt to the 250 field.

I believe you need to watch the race from the fence to see who is who.

MOST IMPORTANTLY I DIDN'T SEE ONE SPONSOR STICKER ON THE SIDE PANELS.

Euros have no clue how to run a show...why are we copying them?





???
I have never seen small numbers on side panels in Europe. Why do you think this idea comes from Europe ?

And no clue how to run a show ?? Man.. you really need to see a GP. The level of profesionalism is so much higher. When a race starts at a certain hour it starts at that hour. It's not an hour late. Look at the hospitality units at a GP. That is so much bigger then at an AMA national.
All american riders that cross the pond are impressed with the GP series and say that the AMA should grow in that direction.

I'm jealous of your 250 class tho :D . That is some awesome racing there.

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5/24/2009 12:26am Edited Date/Time 5/24/2009 12:28am
forgot to mention that i agree with ya tho. Those small numbers really suck.
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5/24/2009 1:15am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:04am
Mumhra it did come from europe.

Ive been saying this all along. We had a GP in Australia in 2000. It drove me insane and the only rider I could recognise was Reed from his riding style and the fact he was charging through the pack. The race ended an I was left with out a clue who I watched lol Bad for the fans.
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5/24/2009 1:48am Edited Date/Time 5/24/2009 1:51am
True Ashelymx... i just thought a little about it and it seems like i was wrong. Some of the teams in Europe do use those small numbers. Not many tho... i can only think of CAS Honda and UTAG Yamaha. Both of those teams come from the UK.
The teams located on the mainland in Europe (Red Bull KTM, TEKA Suzuki, Monster Yamaha, De Carli Yamaha, CLS Kawasaki, Martin Honda, LS Honda,...) don't use those small numbers.
Sorry.. my mistake
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5/24/2009 2:26am
trick121 wrote:
10 steps backwards IMO. I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers. Most guys...

10 steps backwards IMO.

I was sitting on the side of Lucas Hill 50 feet from the track and I struggled with rider numbers.

Most guys were using the small numbers on the sidepanels which made it impossible for me know who was who. Once the front number plate got muddy it was guessing game.

Initially, I struggled with differentiating Stroupe, Weimer, Pourcel, and 411. First lap had no idea who the two Honda rider were putting the hurt to the 250 field.

I believe you need to watch the race from the fence to see who is who.

MOST IMPORTANTLY I DIDN'T SEE ONE SPONSOR STICKER ON THE SIDE PANELS.

Euros have no clue how to run a show...why are we copying them?





I noticed the same thing.
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5/24/2009 3:06am
I had no clue who was who on 250s.
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mumhra wrote:
True Ashelymx... i just thought a little about it and it seems like i was wrong. Some of the teams in Europe do use those small...
True Ashelymx... i just thought a little about it and it seems like i was wrong. Some of the teams in Europe do use those small numbers. Not many tho... i can only think of CAS Honda and UTAG Yamaha. Both of those teams come from the UK.
The teams located on the mainland in Europe (Red Bull KTM, TEKA Suzuki, Monster Yamaha, De Carli Yamaha, CLS Kawasaki, Martin Honda, LS Honda,...) don't use those small numbers.
Sorry.. my mistake
Thats cool I only know thats how it was in 2000 and there abouts. I kinda assumed they stopped doing it actually but I havent looked
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5/24/2009 5:22am
You'll get used to it
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5/24/2009 6:25am Edited Date/Time 5/24/2009 6:26am
davis224 wrote:
I had no clue who was who on 250s.
Spot on, even though they looked cool sitting still, I couldn't get into it once the plates got covered, I really had know clue in the 250's...
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5/24/2009 6:26am
flarider wrote:
You'll get used to it
No Dave, it's that bad...
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5/24/2009 7:06am
flarider wrote:
You'll get used to it
Big Lenny wrote:
No Dave, it's that bad...
I agree, This was a poor decision that wasn't intended to benefit the spectator.
5/24/2009 7:51am
I liked the new look a lot.
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5/24/2009 7:55am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 12:04am
Please everyone feel free to bring your favorite racer a flag to place atop their helment, that way you can keep up with them.

Thanks

Oh and PS please be prepared to write a check.
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5/24/2009 7:56am
I agree with you guys, it's terrible. On the web cast it was even worse because of the picture quality. It can't last. Can it? haha
iro
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to me, on tv, PC's bikes looked like practice bikes without numbers. side plates reminded me of a mailbox. not really diggin the look on any of the bikes... IMO they should have simply increased the size of the logos normally on the airbox instead of adding color schemes.
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Solution: Put back the regular size numbers. Then add a laser unit that produces a large, easy to read, 3-D hologram that floats above the rider and scrolls thru his various sponsors.

Simple!

I'll send my prototype design over to DC today ....


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5/24/2009 8:49am
They should utilize the space better,with the seat and airbox.450s I could tell but 250's cant tell who's who.
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iro wrote:
to me, on tv, PC's bikes looked like practice bikes without numbers. side plates reminded me of a mailbox. not really diggin the look on any...
to me, on tv, PC's bikes looked like practice bikes without numbers. side plates reminded me of a mailbox. not really diggin the look on any of the bikes... IMO they should have simply increased the size of the logos normally on the airbox instead of adding color schemes.
5/24/2009 8:54am
i was thinking this was a cool idea but watching the show online then on tv i could hardly make out who was who. I dont think its gonna work!
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I agree. I thought it was a cool idea, and I always liked how the Euro bikes looked, and I think at the 2000 MXDN the team USA bikes ran American flags on the side plates.

But yesterday it looked bad. Watching the webcast I spent more time looking at the riders helmets to tell who was who than looking at the bikes. The side of the seat needs to be utilized for signage, and I think a minimum 5" number on the side plate.
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flarider wrote:
You'll get used to it
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flarider wrote:
You'll get used to it
Sorry Dave, But no way in Hell you'll get used to it and I'll bet they go back
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5/24/2009 1:24pm
They can make a board that has all their sponsors and when they get on the podium, a team member can hold it up behind the rider.

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