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DPR250R 3/5/2020 1:58pm
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WCRider wrote:
Tomac is the Kawhi Leonard of SX. Both are socially awkward, both hate social medias, both are ultra shy, both don't talk to much, both have...
Tomac is the Kawhi Leonard of SX. Both are socially awkward, both hate social medias, both are ultra shy, both don't talk to much, both have huge hands and both are amazing athletes.
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Indian_Dunes_4ever 3/5/2020 2:03pm
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WCRider wrote:
Tomac is the Kawhi Leonard of SX. Both are socially awkward, both hate social medias, both are ultra shy, both don't talk to much, both have...
Tomac is the Kawhi Leonard of SX. Both are socially awkward, both hate social medias, both are ultra shy, both don't talk to much, both have huge hands and both are amazing athletes.
Huge hands and shy.....sounds romantic. Since we heard about Eli soon becoming a father.... How far along are you? Hoping for a boy or a girl? When is the wedding?



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To add balance, at the first triple crown, first race, Eli started in front of Kenny. Kenny passed him and disappeared. It seems Kenny was a...
To add balance, at the first triple crown, first race, Eli started in front of Kenny.
Kenny passed him and disappeared.

It seems Kenny was a little stronger early season & Eli is a little stronger now.

These head games might swing the balance back in Kenny’s favour. We’ll see.
I think last weekend had to make Tomac angry which could be bad for everyone. Kenny’s racecraft is hard to beat. This season has been great. Never know what’s going to happen next.
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All I know is I’m loving the 450 class at the moment. Bring on Daytona!!!!!!
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WCRider wrote:
Tomac is the Kawhi Leonard of SX. Both are socially awkward, both hate social medias, both are ultra shy, both don't talk to much, both have...
Tomac is the Kawhi Leonard of SX. Both are socially awkward, both hate social medias, both are ultra shy, both don't talk to much, both have huge hands and both are amazing athletes.
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Tomac is leonard of outdoor mx. wins the chips.
Tomac is james harden of sx ,chokes in finals cant get the chip......
Come on Bro. 2011 was a long time ago... he's been pretty fucking exceptional since then.
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Tokyo_Tiddler 3/5/2020 4:06pm
3/5/2020 4:06pm Edited Date/Time 3/5/2020 6:09pm
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do, and even if it means very aggressive riding and taking out people along the way. He doesn't seem to mind if he wont be remembered for being a clean rider by some of us.

After taking away Roczen's line right before the triple to try and cause him to not make the full triple (I watched over and over from different shots and it is pretty clear he was taking Roczen's line away), then this incident with Barcia after Barcia passed him cleanly (yeah, yeah, we all know Barcia was known for slamming people in the past and even he called himself an idiot for riding that way in the past), but Tomac's pass back on Barcia was not so clean IMHO and then a few turns later he takes out Bagget. I think it is hard to argue that all these one after another are unintentional racing incidents. I used to be a Tomac fan, but now I consider him a bit of a dirty rider and one that is only in it for the money, not the fans or reputation.. That started becoming clear to me when he started blowing off the MXdN's. No money to be made there and who cares about the fans. As far as I am concerned, he will never be a GOAT like Carmichael who did the MXdN's and always put out his best. Carmichael was aggressive, but I never saw him try to take away his competitor's line just before a triple or slam different top riders in different corners in the same lap.
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I sincerely hope (and expect) Tomac to absolutely wax everyone this weekend. Cherry on top if he remembers how to start and manages a holeshot. The way he's been riding this year, I see no reason why this won't be the case. Unless Elito rears his ugly head.

Realistically I'm bias toward Tomac over Roczen (am a huge fan of both) but I firmly believe he is (and is proving to be) the alpha dog in this championship. Bit hard for these boys to try and "even the score" with him when he's 15 seconds up the road, on the back wheel through the rollers en route to getting a sun burnt neck as James says.
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do...
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do, and even if it means very aggressive riding and taking out people along the way. He doesn't seem to mind if he wont be remembered for being a clean rider by some of us.

After taking away Roczen's line right before the triple to try and cause him to not make the full triple (I watched over and over from different shots and it is pretty clear he was taking Roczen's line away), then this incident with Barcia after Barcia passed him cleanly (yeah, yeah, we all know Barcia was known for slamming people in the past and even he called himself an idiot for riding that way in the past), but Tomac's pass back on Barcia was not so clean IMHO and then a few turns later he takes out Bagget. I think it is hard to argue that all these one after another are unintentional racing incidents. I used to be a Tomac fan, but now I consider him a bit of a dirty rider and one that is only in it for the money, not the fans or reputation.. That started becoming clear to me when he started blowing off the MXdN's. No money to be made there and who cares about the fans. As far as I am concerned, he will never be a GOAT like Carmichael who did the MXdN's and always put out his best. Carmichael was aggressive, but I never saw him try to take away his competitor's line just before a triple or slam different top riders in different corners in the same lap.
Everything about this gives me a headache
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Indian_Dunes_4ever 3/5/2020 4:37pm
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js451 wrote:
All I know is I’m loving the 450 class at the moment. Bring on Daytona!!!!!!
Yep...some killer racing this year ( and I thought last year was awesome!)

Bangin bars is racing.... people need to sack up.
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526 wrote:
Exactly LOLOL
Momus wrote:
I doubt Baguette has the balls for a Tomac takeout.
mx_phreek wrote:
Did you not see baggett try to go for tomac when he was getting lapped at end of race? When Marty and Webb passed and then...
Did you not see baggett try to go for tomac when he was getting lapped at end of race? When Marty and Webb passed and then he saw tomac pass he got right back on gas and aimed right for him. But tomac got round first turn before he could get to him.
I thought he was just showing him a wheel to say hey i could've cleaned your block off but didn't.
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do...
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do, and even if it means very aggressive riding and taking out people along the way. He doesn't seem to mind if he wont be remembered for being a clean rider by some of us.

After taking away Roczen's line right before the triple to try and cause him to not make the full triple (I watched over and over from different shots and it is pretty clear he was taking Roczen's line away), then this incident with Barcia after Barcia passed him cleanly (yeah, yeah, we all know Barcia was known for slamming people in the past and even he called himself an idiot for riding that way in the past), but Tomac's pass back on Barcia was not so clean IMHO and then a few turns later he takes out Bagget. I think it is hard to argue that all these one after another are unintentional racing incidents. I used to be a Tomac fan, but now I consider him a bit of a dirty rider and one that is only in it for the money, not the fans or reputation.. That started becoming clear to me when he started blowing off the MXdN's. No money to be made there and who cares about the fans. As far as I am concerned, he will never be a GOAT like Carmichael who did the MXdN's and always put out his best. Carmichael was aggressive, but I never saw him try to take away his competitor's line just before a triple or slam different top riders in different corners in the same lap.

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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do...
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do, and even if it means very aggressive riding and taking out people along the way. He doesn't seem to mind if he wont be remembered for being a clean rider by some of us.

After taking away Roczen's line right before the triple to try and cause him to not make the full triple (I watched over and over from different shots and it is pretty clear he was taking Roczen's line away), then this incident with Barcia after Barcia passed him cleanly (yeah, yeah, we all know Barcia was known for slamming people in the past and even he called himself an idiot for riding that way in the past), but Tomac's pass back on Barcia was not so clean IMHO and then a few turns later he takes out Bagget. I think it is hard to argue that all these one after another are unintentional racing incidents. I used to be a Tomac fan, but now I consider him a bit of a dirty rider and one that is only in it for the money, not the fans or reputation.. That started becoming clear to me when he started blowing off the MXdN's. No money to be made there and who cares about the fans. As far as I am concerned, he will never be a GOAT like Carmichael who did the MXdN's and always put out his best. Carmichael was aggressive, but I never saw him try to take away his competitor's line just before a triple or slam different top riders in different corners in the same lap.
Hey look, a Vitard that is more upset about Tomac's pass on Roczen than Roczen was! Go watch the post-race press conference, this is a non-story.

And while you're reviewing the footage over and over again, maybe you should look at a picture of the triple face. All the ruts were angled heavily to the left because that was the natural racing line leading into the next corner. Roczen understands this, which is why he congratulated Eli on a clean race after the fact. Apparently his fanboys aren't so understanding.
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do...
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do, and even if it means very aggressive riding and taking out people along the way. He doesn't seem to mind if he wont be remembered for being a clean rider by some of us.

After taking away Roczen's line right before the triple to try and cause him to not make the full triple (I watched over and over from different shots and it is pretty clear he was taking Roczen's line away), then this incident with Barcia after Barcia passed him cleanly (yeah, yeah, we all know Barcia was known for slamming people in the past and even he called himself an idiot for riding that way in the past), but Tomac's pass back on Barcia was not so clean IMHO and then a few turns later he takes out Bagget. I think it is hard to argue that all these one after another are unintentional racing incidents. I used to be a Tomac fan, but now I consider him a bit of a dirty rider and one that is only in it for the money, not the fans or reputation.. That started becoming clear to me when he started blowing off the MXdN's. No money to be made there and who cares about the fans. As far as I am concerned, he will never be a GOAT like Carmichael who did the MXdN's and always put out his best. Carmichael was aggressive, but I never saw him try to take away his competitor's line just before a triple or slam different top riders in different corners in the same lap.
Ricky is the GOAT because of his record number of wins and championships. How old are you? I don’t mean to be condescending but Ricky was hated by most for a couple of years in his prime. He’d get boo’d at opening ceremonies as the reigning champion on Honda.
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526 wrote:
Exactly LOLOL
Momus wrote:
I doubt Baguette has the balls for a Tomac takeout.
mx_phreek wrote:
Did you not see baggett try to go for tomac when he was getting lapped at end of race? When Marty and Webb passed and then...
Did you not see baggett try to go for tomac when he was getting lapped at end of race? When Marty and Webb passed and then he saw tomac pass he got right back on gas and aimed right for him. But tomac got round first turn before he could get to him.
Sorta proves my point.
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Thisusernameisavailable 3/6/2020 12:06am
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gregyou wrote:
Ken has had a good start out front and still been ran down by tomac.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
To add balance, at the first triple crown, first race, Eli started in front of Kenny. Kenny passed him and disappeared. It seems Kenny was a...
To add balance, at the first triple crown, first race, Eli started in front of Kenny.
Kenny passed him and disappeared.

It seems Kenny was a little stronger early season & Eli is a little stronger now.

These head games might swing the balance back in Kenny’s favour. We’ll see.
NateDawg wrote:
Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also...
Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also got lucky with several red flags ruining Tomac's only good starts of the night.
Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact.
FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year.
FACT- Ken has caught, passed and left Eli at some point this year.

It’s not up for argument- it happened.

Now when it comes to luck- yes Ken got lucky with the red flag at Glendale.
Eli got lucky twice this year with riders falling on the last lap or second to last lap.
St. Louis? Anderson & Osborn?
Last week?
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gregyou 3/6/2020 12:30am
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
To add balance, at the first triple crown, first race, Eli started in front of Kenny. Kenny passed him and disappeared. It seems Kenny was a...
To add balance, at the first triple crown, first race, Eli started in front of Kenny.
Kenny passed him and disappeared.

It seems Kenny was a little stronger early season & Eli is a little stronger now.

These head games might swing the balance back in Kenny’s favour. We’ll see.
NateDawg wrote:
Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also...
Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also got lucky with several red flags ruining Tomac's only good starts of the night.
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Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact. FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year. FACT- Ken has caught, passed...
Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact.
FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year.
FACT- Ken has caught, passed and left Eli at some point this year.

It’s not up for argument- it happened.

Now when it comes to luck- yes Ken got lucky with the red flag at Glendale.
Eli got lucky twice this year with riders falling on the last lap or second to last lap.
St. Louis? Anderson & Osborn?
Last week?
When did roczen catch and drop tomac ?
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Thisusernameisavailable 3/6/2020 12:56am
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NateDawg wrote:
Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also...
Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also got lucky with several red flags ruining Tomac's only good starts of the night.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact. FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year. FACT- Ken has caught, passed...
Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact.
FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year.
FACT- Ken has caught, passed and left Eli at some point this year.

It’s not up for argument- it happened.

Now when it comes to luck- yes Ken got lucky with the red flag at Glendale.
Eli got lucky twice this year with riders falling on the last lap or second to last lap.
St. Louis? Anderson & Osborn?
Last week?
gregyou wrote:
When did roczen catch and drop tomac ?
‘Catch’- ok I’ll give you that.

But he passed him & dropped him in Glendale.
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gregyou 3/6/2020 1:14am
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact. FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year. FACT- Ken has caught, passed...
Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact.
FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year.
FACT- Ken has caught, passed and left Eli at some point this year.

It’s not up for argument- it happened.

Now when it comes to luck- yes Ken got lucky with the red flag at Glendale.
Eli got lucky twice this year with riders falling on the last lap or second to last lap.
St. Louis? Anderson & Osborn?
Last week?
gregyou wrote:
When did roczen catch and drop tomac ?
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
‘Catch’- ok I’ll give you that.

But he passed him & dropped him in Glendale.
Roczen strength is sprints at the start, he should really beat tomac at all the triple crowns
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gregyou wrote:
When did roczen catch and drop tomac ?
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
‘Catch’- ok I’ll give you that.

But he passed him & dropped him in Glendale.
gregyou wrote:
Roczen strength is sprints at the start, he should really beat tomac at all the triple crowns
This conversation between you & I, is just weird man.

You start off by stating Eli is better than Kenny because...

I add that to add balance, kenny done this...

You say Thats not logical because Eli stomped kenny here......

I say Its not logic, its fact, because it happened...

You say well yeah Kenny should beat Eli at triple crowns because sprinting is his strength...

Im lost man, have a good day.
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It will interesting to see what BB4 does when Tomac is in his crosshairs

Tomac maybe faster but there is something called "traffic "
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
‘Catch’- ok I’ll give you that.

But he passed him & dropped him in Glendale.
gregyou wrote:
Roczen strength is sprints at the start, he should really beat tomac at all the triple crowns
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
This conversation between you & I, is just weird man. You start off by stating Eli is better than Kenny because... I add that to add...
This conversation between you & I, is just weird man.

You start off by stating Eli is better than Kenny because...

I add that to add balance, kenny done this...

You say Thats not logical because Eli stomped kenny here......

I say Its not logic, its fact, because it happened...

You say well yeah Kenny should beat Eli at triple crowns because sprinting is his strength...

Im lost man, have a good day.
He should but he doesn’t.
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dirtwalker 3/6/2020 4:51am
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NateDawg wrote:
Hey look, a Vitard that is more upset about Tomac's pass on Roczen than Roczen was! Go watch the post-race press conference, this is a non-story...
Hey look, a Vitard that is more upset about Tomac's pass on Roczen than Roczen was! Go watch the post-race press conference, this is a non-story.

And while you're reviewing the footage over and over again, maybe you should look at a picture of the triple face. All the ruts were angled heavily to the left because that was the natural racing line leading into the next corner. Roczen understands this, which is why he congratulated Eli on a clean race after the fact. Apparently his fanboys aren't so understanding.
Actually Tomac crossed from one line to another to block Roczen - eg went at a bigger angle than the ruts.
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Tokyo_Tiddler wrote:
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do...
One thing that has become clear to me is that Tomac has his mind set to win the championship no matter what he has to do, and even if it means very aggressive riding and taking out people along the way. He doesn't seem to mind if he wont be remembered for being a clean rider by some of us.

After taking away Roczen's line right before the triple to try and cause him to not make the full triple (I watched over and over from different shots and it is pretty clear he was taking Roczen's line away), then this incident with Barcia after Barcia passed him cleanly (yeah, yeah, we all know Barcia was known for slamming people in the past and even he called himself an idiot for riding that way in the past), but Tomac's pass back on Barcia was not so clean IMHO and then a few turns later he takes out Bagget. I think it is hard to argue that all these one after another are unintentional racing incidents. I used to be a Tomac fan, but now I consider him a bit of a dirty rider and one that is only in it for the money, not the fans or reputation.. That started becoming clear to me when he started blowing off the MXdN's. No money to be made there and who cares about the fans. As far as I am concerned, he will never be a GOAT like Carmichael who did the MXdN's and always put out his best. Carmichael was aggressive, but I never saw him try to take away his competitor's line just before a triple or slam different top riders in different corners in the same lap.
booth112 wrote:
Everything about this gives me a headache
Couldn’t have said it better. So many conclusions based on personal opinion and conjecture ... makes my head hurt.
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Seemed to me like bagget but a nice face on for the camera. If he’s near tomac I expect him to make it very hard on him.
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I feel like once Barcia and Blake watch the video they would have to settle the fuck down.
I feel like once Barcia and Blake watch the video they would have to settle the fuck down.

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After previous comments were made here or on another thread about how unhinged Baggett is when he's involved in an on-track altercation...he seems pretty calm, cool, collected, and mature here.
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This post made me look at this again. IMO - ET did not attempt to T bone or hit BB in anyway like Moosecan did. In fact all other riders railed the berm but BB did an almost square pivot and ET and BB racing lines came together. Unfortunate for both and appears non intentional by either rider.

BamBam - Took ET high on a corner and made the pass by making contact then got the same handed back the next corner - BamBam went insane - He clearly wanted to T bone Tomac in the sand but he was too slow. ET had to get away from that action and unfortunately that ended in a coming together with BB.

If ET truly wanted to park BB he would have ... taken him high .. which never happened the incident happened when BB was going extra square in the corner and while going low ! If BB railed the berm like the other 3 riders before him ( JA did cut lower as well trying to overtake) then ET and BB would never have made contact. So who you going to blame ET or BB ? IMO unfortunate racing indecent for both neither indented a parking ticket. BamBam he was so trying to park ET that was plain to see.
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Mit12 3/6/2020 8:09am
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This was exactly like the Dungey - Stewart crash. Racing incidents happen all the time. Bowl turns invite these type of incidents.
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