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I have a totally stock 2002 YZ250. I rode a 2020 YZ250X at a dealer event, and the power off the bottom was much less potent than my 2002, and much better for the choppy track.
I want to take the some off the power off the bottom. I may go with an updated powervalve, if it will fit - but the power down low doesn't really have anything to do with powervalve as it's not yet opening up? Was thinking of going with a different silencer to move the power off the bottom...
This is where I get confused. I have an '04 KTM 200 EXC and two silencers - OEM hockey stick - huge pipe -tons of low-end grunt. Much shorter FMF Factory Core - no low end power, sings up top. Yet I'm reading everywhere that shorty pipes give more bottom end? It's like the short silencer is stopping the powervalve from opening up. Does back-pressure actuate the valve?
So for my YZ - do I go with a longer or shorter silencer to soften up the bottom end? This is not something a flywheel weight will fix.
I want to take the some off the power off the bottom. I may go with an updated powervalve, if it will fit - but the power down low doesn't really have anything to do with powervalve as it's not yet opening up? Was thinking of going with a different silencer to move the power off the bottom...
This is where I get confused. I have an '04 KTM 200 EXC and two silencers - OEM hockey stick - huge pipe -tons of low-end grunt. Much shorter FMF Factory Core - no low end power, sings up top. Yet I'm reading everywhere that shorty pipes give more bottom end? It's like the short silencer is stopping the powervalve from opening up. Does back-pressure actuate the valve?
So for my YZ - do I go with a longer or shorter silencer to soften up the bottom end? This is not something a flywheel weight will fix.
The whole short silencer = more bottom end is not entirely accurate. Outlet size matters more. What exhaust setup you running now? I would just stick with stock if you're looking for smooth delivery. After, that FMF Fatty is known as being very well rounded. Pick any silencer.
You don't get much from changing the silencer, but you can really change the power spread with a small change to the timing.
The FMF fatty pipe is pretty good for drawing out the power and being super smooth on the YZ.
I run a Factory Fatty at at some of our local tracks where the corners are flat or off-camber and the soil is slick.
The PC pipe has a harder hit and pulls mid/top (probably not your flavor with the hit)
The Bills pipe is more low/mid oriented. (if you can learn to ride a gear higher, this pipe is the best).
The DEP pipes are a very good spread of power, similar to the Bill's pipe, but they pull harder toward the top.
I prefer the DEP and the Bill's when I race if the traction is good.
Jetting, timing, gearing and a flywheel weight are the best mods on the YZ (I don't run the weight).
Milling the head down a bit really helps too, but if you go too far it makes the bike too punchy at part throttle.
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The 02 has different port timing and head dimensions to the new models. It was an impressive grunty engine which hits hard.
If you don't want to modify engine components, go with a flywheel weight, a standard pipe and silencer and try adjusting the timing. After you try that and if you still want it more mellow, you can always put a slightly thicker base gasket on the cylinder.
I'm surprised they de-tuned the bottom end on the YZ250X - for enduro riding most people I know what a lot of bottom to lug around with. Odd. I feel like a head off that bike would really help.
In tight nasty terrain you want a bike that you can ride at low RPM without stalling and is smooth on the bottom with no abrupt hit. That’s what some consider good bottom end power.
On the other hand with a 450 for example you can come out of a corner at a low RPM and the strong bottom end power will pull you hard out at the twist of the throttle.
Having had a YZ 250 I believe what your looking for is a flywheel weight. It’s relatively inexpensive and an easy mid to do.
YZ250 Timing thread
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