Kyle Webster without a Ride

inthebadboycorner 10/31/2019 2:19am
10/31/2019 2:19am Edited Date/Time 10/31/2019 2:20am
So can we here in oz justify an MX2 class,
I mean have the feeder U19 class and then jump up to the main game.
The combined money available could maybe spread further down the pack.
More available sponsors for riders all in one class.
Inexperienced riders could ride 250cc to build talent.

The gates would be full, maybe even run qualifiers or timed practice.

Would this work?

I love the sport so much, although it is a bummer to see it in such a state compared to the Mr Motocross glory days.
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So can we here in oz justify an MX2 class, I mean have the feeder U19 class and then jump up to the main game. The...
So can we here in oz justify an MX2 class,
I mean have the feeder U19 class and then jump up to the main game.
The combined money available could maybe spread further down the pack.
More available sponsors for riders all in one class.
Inexperienced riders could ride 250cc to build talent.

The gates would be full, maybe even run qualifiers or timed practice.

Would this work?

I love the sport so much, although it is a bummer to see it in such a state compared to the Mr Motocross glory days.
Don’t think a young rider just out of U19s could go straight to the MX1 class. It’s hard enough for them to progress to MX2.
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I hope he learnt that he need international credentials if he wants oversea rides. He is not a youngster so it is always a good invest...
I hope he learnt that he need international credentials if he wants oversea rides.

He is not a youngster so it is always a good invest to race the MEC, RBSR, A1, Daytona, Paris SX, and some other international races where the teams can get an idea of where he would rank even if that lead to a semi privateer status. It may not work that well although he delivered results (Soubeyras, Ramette, Ferris, etc) but he won't have regrets. He did well at the mxdn, not great but it was still a good performance, i hope that more experiences like that can open some eyes. 1 race top 15 in a "mudder" won't, but that is a good start. It is never too late.
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"Good performance" ? For me, he and his 450 colleague were the revelations of the week-end... They did awesome and opened a lot of eyes.
I will copy my 2nd post on this topic, which somewhat corrected the 1st one :

" Sorry i checked too quickly his results, it was indeed a great performance, not just a good one. So far in the off season he may try the fill in option, or like another member said, the best is probably to focus on australia where he will get more support, or both when possible. He is not lucky about the age rule either, but maybe a mx2 fill in ride in the US may pop up. He probably needs a good agent to speed things up overseas as he may not have all the direct contacts. In all cases it is a weird time in term of racing, there are many good/great riders without a ride globally (like the list on this website, Tickle, Grant, Davalos, Bowers, Bloss, etc etc, and in europe i don't have the list but i think Bobryshev, Paturel, Nagl, etc) . "

No doubt they opened a lot of eyes and deserve a shot but so far the 450 rides are ultra limited and currently locked in i think, in a very stacked field as well. The same mx2 performance 3 or 5 years ago and he would have already a 250 ride probably, so he is not lucky with the age rule. That is why maybe he will have an opportunity in the US. But this late into the off season I don't see many options, other than possibly fill in rides if he wants to go overseas, he would probably get more support with an Australian team where he could also race a few overseas events to get more noticed.
OffRoadBro 10/31/2019 3:22pm
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The U19 class is a waste of talent and recourses. Just like the growing number of “trucks” in the paddock that are supporting riders that are literally riding for a few sets of gear and a motorcycle they have to help sell at the seasons end.

Still, it’s not the worse thing on earth and it’s still a pretty decent pay to play hobby.

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OffRoadBro wrote:
The U19 class is a waste of talent and recourses. Just like the growing number of “trucks” in the paddock that are supporting riders that are...
The U19 class is a waste of talent and recourses. Just like the growing number of “trucks” in the paddock that are supporting riders that are literally riding for a few sets of gear and a motorcycle they have to help sell at the seasons end.

Still, it’s not the worse thing on earth and it’s still a pretty decent pay to play hobby.
Agree and I'm going to throw an idea up here but I'll admit very little thought has gone in to this. To come straight out of juniors to the MX2 pro class is a big step. Maybe a similar AMA system of pointing out of MX2 to force the transition to 450 then this will force the top riders of MX2 to move up. This may even out the competition in MX2 and maybe then it's not such a big step out of juniors.
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The U19 class is a waste of talent and recourses. Just like the growing number of “trucks” in the paddock that are supporting riders that are...
The U19 class is a waste of talent and recourses. Just like the growing number of “trucks” in the paddock that are supporting riders that are literally riding for a few sets of gear and a motorcycle they have to help sell at the seasons end.

Still, it’s not the worse thing on earth and it’s still a pretty decent pay to play hobby.
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Agree and I'm going to throw an idea up here but I'll admit very little thought has gone in to this. To come straight out of...
Agree and I'm going to throw an idea up here but I'll admit very little thought has gone in to this. To come straight out of juniors to the MX2 pro class is a big step. Maybe a similar AMA system of pointing out of MX2 to force the transition to 450 then this will force the top riders of MX2 to move up. This may even out the competition in MX2 and maybe then it's not such a big step out of juniors.
I think there a juniors that are more than capable, and there looks to be a couple that have just turned 16, and there are juniors that need more work, but that is what state championships are for. When I look back through the sport in Aus over the last 20 plus years, the guys that have gone to furthest have gone in with the big boys straight away, prettt sure Brett Metcalf won his first senior race at Sydney Superdome (correct me if I’m wrong of course).

The under 19 program takes a lot of recourses and ultimately, it’s the same crop of juniors still going after each other just with a higher age bracket so I don’t see the benefits other than another way for oems to claim victory in a title.

Ultimately my gripe is that I would much prefer to see those recourses spread across the proper pro classes. And don’t get me started on WMX.
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Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream...
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream and chased it.

The young guys who want to race overseas need to take a shot at it, 85% of aus guys will need a job after their career. May as well have a big crack when your young with no life comittments, australia will always be here and if your good enough there will be money here.
I kind of see it differently.

If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your minimal racing income chasing a ride in the states or Europe, then when retirement hits its time to enter the workforce with nothing substantial to show for it.

Bear in mind all situations are different, i just feel like knowing your place in the global industry is important. If i can make 50-60k a year by winning here or i can spend 100k a year and come 10th-15th in the states then im realistic and i stay in the little pond. If i have a legit shot to make it then by all means sign that 3 year deal with geico and hit the road, but we're not talking about those calibre riders in australia at the moment.
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Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream...
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream and chased it.

The young guys who want to race overseas need to take a shot at it, 85% of aus guys will need a job after their career. May as well have a big crack when your young with no life comittments, australia will always be here and if your good enough there will be money here.
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I kind of see it differently. If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your...
I kind of see it differently.

If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your minimal racing income chasing a ride in the states or Europe, then when retirement hits its time to enter the workforce with nothing substantial to show for it.

Bear in mind all situations are different, i just feel like knowing your place in the global industry is important. If i can make 50-60k a year by winning here or i can spend 100k a year and come 10th-15th in the states then im realistic and i stay in the little pond. If i have a legit shot to make it then by all means sign that 3 year deal with geico and hit the road, but we're not talking about those calibre riders in australia at the moment.
Yeah that’s not a bad way of looking at it. And I would actually not be surprised if the top off road guys in Australia make more combined than the top MX guys. With many of them literally the fastest in the world and still remaining in Aus there has to be some reason behind it.
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Aussie_power_sports wrote:
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream...
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream and chased it.

The young guys who want to race overseas need to take a shot at it, 85% of aus guys will need a job after their career. May as well have a big crack when your young with no life comittments, australia will always be here and if your good enough there will be money here.
haydos25 wrote:
I kind of see it differently. If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your...
I kind of see it differently.

If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your minimal racing income chasing a ride in the states or Europe, then when retirement hits its time to enter the workforce with nothing substantial to show for it.

Bear in mind all situations are different, i just feel like knowing your place in the global industry is important. If i can make 50-60k a year by winning here or i can spend 100k a year and come 10th-15th in the states then im realistic and i stay in the little pond. If i have a legit shot to make it then by all means sign that 3 year deal with geico and hit the road, but we're not talking about those calibre riders in australia at the moment.
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Yeah that’s not a bad way of looking at it. And I would actually not be surprised if the top off road guys in Australia make...
Yeah that’s not a bad way of looking at it. And I would actually not be surprised if the top off road guys in Australia make more combined than the top MX guys. With many of them literally the fastest in the world and still remaining in Aus there has to be some reason behind it.
I am sure that money is very important to all of these riders but I think most of these young guys will sell their mother to go overseas and race against the best riders in the world. It's probably not until they are late 20s that they start thinking about their financial future.
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Contend for a title in Canada. If he wins up there, he'll land a semi-decent ride in the states.
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Contend for a title in Canada. If he wins up there, he'll land a semi-decent ride in the states.
Does he have an offer to ride in Canada? Or is he doing it with his own money? Prizemoney up there wouldn't pay his flights even if he does win.

What Canadian champion in recent times has landed a semi decent ride in the states afterwards? Not being a smart arse, i just cant think of one.
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devindavisphoto wrote:
Contend for a title in Canada. If he wins up there, he'll land a semi-decent ride in the states.
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Does he have an offer to ride in Canada? Or is he doing it with his own money? Prizemoney up there wouldn't pay his flights even...
Does he have an offer to ride in Canada? Or is he doing it with his own money? Prizemoney up there wouldn't pay his flights even if he does win.

What Canadian champion in recent times has landed a semi decent ride in the states afterwards? Not being a smart arse, i just cant think of one.
Not sure the Canadian MXN is any stronger than Australian MXN. Any teams interested in new riders would be looking at all the mx national events worldwide if they think there are strong riders coming through. Livia Lancelot from Motosports Team Honda 114 claimed in an interview her and Gariboldi (HRC) watch and monitor Aussie nationals closely as we seem to have strong riders coming through. I'm imagining that a lot of team bosses do the same.
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Aussie_power_sports wrote:
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream...
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream and chased it.

The young guys who want to race overseas need to take a shot at it, 85% of aus guys will need a job after their career. May as well have a big crack when your young with no life comittments, australia will always be here and if your good enough there will be money here.
haydos25 wrote:
I kind of see it differently. If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your...
I kind of see it differently.

If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your minimal racing income chasing a ride in the states or Europe, then when retirement hits its time to enter the workforce with nothing substantial to show for it.

Bear in mind all situations are different, i just feel like knowing your place in the global industry is important. If i can make 50-60k a year by winning here or i can spend 100k a year and come 10th-15th in the states then im realistic and i stay in the little pond. If i have a legit shot to make it then by all means sign that 3 year deal with geico and hit the road, but we're not talking about those calibre riders in australia at the moment.
50 or 60k a year, that's almost the poverty line, most people earn that without having to also spend on mx ancillary items.
Seams like mx here is almost done, each year is getting worse.
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This is probably not a popular opinion, but if im a top aussie rider like Ferris, Waters, Webster, Clout etc. i stay exactly where im at...
This is probably not a popular opinion, but if im a top aussie rider like Ferris, Waters, Webster, Clout etc. i stay exactly where im at. Make the local money while it's there and try and get somebody to fund some overseas races for me eg. MXdN or some nationals in the mid season break.

The rumour was Ferris left alot of cash on the table in Aus to chase a year overseas, probably wishes he hadn't now. Unless you have a guaranteed money paying gig that you're walking into its just such a massive investment to go over there by yourself on your own dime. Especially for the guys in their mid to late 20's.

Realistically the aussie guys need to be that much better and stand out massively to get a look in. Think Reed/Lawrence/Metty, dudes that would've been winning in aus by 30-40 seconds. Nobody currently here has that sort of ability. Bank the aussie money while its there, dont blow it all chasing the dream of finishing top 10 overseas.
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Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream...
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream and chased it.

The young guys who want to race overseas need to take a shot at it, 85% of aus guys will need a job after their career. May as well have a big crack when your young with no life comittments, australia will always be here and if your good enough there will be money here.
Ferris sign on was $300k by all accounts, that was to keep him in Aus last year
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haydos25 10/31/2019 6:58pm
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This is probably not a popular opinion, but if im a top aussie rider like Ferris, Waters, Webster, Clout etc. i stay exactly where im at...
This is probably not a popular opinion, but if im a top aussie rider like Ferris, Waters, Webster, Clout etc. i stay exactly where im at. Make the local money while it's there and try and get somebody to fund some overseas races for me eg. MXdN or some nationals in the mid season break.

The rumour was Ferris left alot of cash on the table in Aus to chase a year overseas, probably wishes he hadn't now. Unless you have a guaranteed money paying gig that you're walking into its just such a massive investment to go over there by yourself on your own dime. Especially for the guys in their mid to late 20's.

Realistically the aussie guys need to be that much better and stand out massively to get a look in. Think Reed/Lawrence/Metty, dudes that would've been winning in aus by 30-40 seconds. Nobody currently here has that sort of ability. Bank the aussie money while its there, dont blow it all chasing the dream of finishing top 10 overseas.
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Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream...
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream and chased it.

The young guys who want to race overseas need to take a shot at it, 85% of aus guys will need a job after their career. May as well have a big crack when your young with no life comittments, australia will always be here and if your good enough there will be money here.
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Ferris sign on was $300k by all accounts, that was to keep him in Aus last year
I love the idea of challenging yourself against the best, but giving up 300k guaranteed to pay to race overseas? Unless you're sitting pretty already then that's just bonkers.

Especially with hindsight when you see how it turned out for him. But what was the upside in that decision? How many US riders are making 300k a year and dont ride supercross?
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Contend for a title in Canada. If he wins up there, he'll land a semi-decent ride in the states.
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Does he have an offer to ride in Canada? Or is he doing it with his own money? Prizemoney up there wouldn't pay his flights even...
Does he have an offer to ride in Canada? Or is he doing it with his own money? Prizemoney up there wouldn't pay his flights even if he does win.

What Canadian champion in recent times has landed a semi decent ride in the states afterwards? Not being a smart arse, i just cant think of one.
Last Canadian to get a full time ride was Dusty Klatt in 2007 with the Star Yamaha Team. Before him there was Darcy Lange on the Pro Circuit Kawasaki Team (2006-2007).

Dusty Klatt 2007





Darcy Lange 2007





Jeremy Medaglia also rode 2 rounds in 2008 for the Yamaha of Troy Team.




Colton Facciotti rode two rounds for Troy Lee back in 2011.




Jess Pettis was in talks for a fill in ride with the Troy Lee Designs KTM Team this SX season but unfortunately broke his arm. I would love to see him ride down in the US full time.
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Last Canadian to get a full time ride was Dusty Klatt in 2007 with the Star Yamaha Team. Before him there was Darcy Lange on the...
Last Canadian to get a full time ride was Dusty Klatt in 2007 with the Star Yamaha Team. Before him there was Darcy Lange on the Pro Circuit Kawasaki Team (2006-2007).

Dusty Klatt 2007





Darcy Lange 2007





Jeremy Medaglia also rode 2 rounds in 2008 for the Yamaha of Troy Team.




Colton Facciotti rode two rounds for Troy Lee back in 2011.




Jess Pettis was in talks for a fill in ride with the Troy Lee Designs KTM Team this SX season but unfortunately broke his arm. I would love to see him ride down in the US full time.
So we're going back over a decade to find someone who has used Canada as a stepping stone to a full time gig in the states.

Not exactly a well worn pathway unfortunately.
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So we're going back over a decade to find someone who has used Canada as a stepping stone to a full time gig in the states...
So we're going back over a decade to find someone who has used Canada as a stepping stone to a full time gig in the states.

Not exactly a well worn pathway unfortunately.
Supercross is a big deal in landing a decent ride in the US. Unless you're already a big name you'll have to privateer it in the hopes to land a fill in ride. After that you need to do well if you want a chance at a full time ride.

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So we're going back over a decade to find someone who has used Canada as a stepping stone to a full time gig in the states...
So we're going back over a decade to find someone who has used Canada as a stepping stone to a full time gig in the states.

Not exactly a well worn pathway unfortunately.
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Supercross is a big deal in landing a decent ride in the US. Unless you're already a big name you'll have to privateer it in the...
Supercross is a big deal in landing a decent ride in the US. Unless you're already a big name you'll have to privateer it in the hopes to land a fill in ride. After that you need to do well if you want a chance at a full time ride.
Probably why most of our young talent is looking at heading to GPs. SX is only 5 rounds and tough to learn when there’s so few SX tracks and virtually no arenacross
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Probably why most of our young talent is looking at heading to GPs. SX is only 5 rounds and tough to learn when there’s so few...
Probably why most of our young talent is looking at heading to GPs. SX is only 5 rounds and tough to learn when there’s so few SX tracks and virtually no arenacross
I haven't kept up with his progress but back in 2017 Geran Stapleton came up to Canada with the help of FXR.

Is he still racing? How's he doing?

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Probably why most of our young talent is looking at heading to GPs. SX is only 5 rounds and tough to learn when there’s so few...
Probably why most of our young talent is looking at heading to GPs. SX is only 5 rounds and tough to learn when there’s so few SX tracks and virtually no arenacross
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I haven't kept up with his progress but back in 2017 Geran Stapleton came up to Canada with the help of FXR. Is he still racing...
I haven't kept up with his progress but back in 2017 Geran Stapleton came up to Canada with the help of FXR.

Is he still racing? How's he doing?

He has raced some rounds but not many over the last few years. He was at Rd 2 here the other week and I think he ended up 12th in SX2 final.
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Contend for a title in Canada. If he wins up there, he'll land a semi-decent ride in the states.
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Does he have an offer to ride in Canada? Or is he doing it with his own money? Prizemoney up there wouldn't pay his flights even...
Does he have an offer to ride in Canada? Or is he doing it with his own money? Prizemoney up there wouldn't pay his flights even if he does win.

What Canadian champion in recent times has landed a semi decent ride in the states afterwards? Not being a smart arse, i just cant think of one.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Last Canadian to get a full time ride was Dusty Klatt in 2007 with the Star Yamaha Team. Before him there was Darcy Lange on the...
Last Canadian to get a full time ride was Dusty Klatt in 2007 with the Star Yamaha Team. Before him there was Darcy Lange on the Pro Circuit Kawasaki Team (2006-2007).

Dusty Klatt 2007





Darcy Lange 2007





Jeremy Medaglia also rode 2 rounds in 2008 for the Yamaha of Troy Team.




Colton Facciotti rode two rounds for Troy Lee back in 2011.




Jess Pettis was in talks for a fill in ride with the Troy Lee Designs KTM Team this SX season but unfortunately broke his arm. I would love to see him ride down in the US full time.
Klatt is Aussie slang for bumhole.
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I haven't kept up with his progress but back in 2017 Geran Stapleton came up to Canada with the help of FXR. Is he still racing...
I haven't kept up with his progress but back in 2017 Geran Stapleton came up to Canada with the help of FXR.

Is he still racing? How's he doing?

His had a few injuries over the last few years his only really just starting to get back into riding in the last few months
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Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream...
Not a rumour, ferris left close to 300k (if he won championship) to go overseas. But sometimes money isnt a motivating factor. He had a dream and chased it.

The young guys who want to race overseas need to take a shot at it, 85% of aus guys will need a job after their career. May as well have a big crack when your young with no life comittments, australia will always be here and if your good enough there will be money here.
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Ferris sign on was $300k by all accounts, that was to keep him in Aus last year
haydos25 wrote:
I love the idea of challenging yourself against the best, but giving up 300k guaranteed to pay to race overseas? Unless you're sitting pretty already then...
I love the idea of challenging yourself against the best, but giving up 300k guaranteed to pay to race overseas? Unless you're sitting pretty already then that's just bonkers.

Especially with hindsight when you see how it turned out for him. But what was the upside in that decision? How many US riders are making 300k a year and dont ride supercross?
Yeah I'm not sure what I'd do he took that 2018 as he wanted to go and said it's $300k or I'll look and Dacky paid it for MX and SX but he got hurt SX. He really put in to try won't the SX championship apparently before getting hurt but I think he was always going to go in 2019 regardless.
Aussie_power_sports 11/1/2019 8:09pm
11/1/2019 8:09pm
haydos25 wrote:
I kind of see it differently. If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your...
I kind of see it differently.

If 85% of riders need to work after racing then it would be a mistake to spend all of your minimal racing income chasing a ride in the states or Europe, then when retirement hits its time to enter the workforce with nothing substantial to show for it.

Bear in mind all situations are different, i just feel like knowing your place in the global industry is important. If i can make 50-60k a year by winning here or i can spend 100k a year and come 10th-15th in the states then im realistic and i stay in the little pond. If i have a legit shot to make it then by all means sign that 3 year deal with geico and hit the road, but we're not talking about those calibre riders in australia at the moment.
If you have true potential and back yourself you'll make it happen aka Reedy. I would say 10% of aussie pros beteeen mx and enduro can actually pay a mortage with their wage, so when retirement comes they have nothing anyway. Not sure if you have lived on 50/60k a year but thats all your doing is living, your not getting head or setting your future up. Pretend you have a 10 year career and earn 150k a year, your not reitiring off that money at the end of it, maybe if your really smart you'll have a house paid off.

All im saying is the young guys should take a chance and invest in themselves while they are young enough to have a chance, because 90% of them will be working later in life anyway. At the end of a riders career most of them have no trade or uni degree, there bodies are fucked and they have no money. If your job is literally a risk to your life like ours is, unless your making +120k a year its not worth it. Go get a job in the mines on an even time roster earning 100k+

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