Peick retiring?

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twotwosix 8/27/2019 4:43am
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Reminds me of Langston's situation...
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EngIceDave 8/27/2019 4:59am
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526 wrote:
I would agree but have you seen KR94 Xrays?
While Kenny's injuries were devastating, and and he lucky to recover, his head was CRUSHED between the face of a jump and the skid plate of Cedric Soubeyras' bike. Not too much you can do about a stretched out optical nerve. Can't rehab it. Can't "repair" it. You can only wait for father time and God to do their thing, if at all.
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526 wrote:
I would agree but have you seen KR94 Xrays?
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While Kenny's injuries were devastating, and and he lucky to recover, his head was CRUSHED between the face of a jump and the skid plate of...
While Kenny's injuries were devastating, and and he lucky to recover, his head was CRUSHED between the face of a jump and the skid plate of Cedric Soubeyras' bike. Not too much you can do about a stretched out optical nerve. Can't rehab it. Can't "repair" it. You can only wait for father time and God to do their thing, if at all.
I guess my point is there are ways to adapt, I am sure if people saw 94s X rays and would have watched him this past summer ride at the highest level of the sport they couldn't believe it.

I am not say WP isn't willing to adapt and if there is a shred of possibility he is the guy that will adapt.
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EngIceDave 8/27/2019 5:15am
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When you're blind in one eye, you have no depth of field. You can't accurately judge the distance of a whoop, jump landing or rut. Let's also not forget, he has blurriness or a form of "double vision"...He can't see properly.

How do you expect someone to race at warp 2 speed, when they can't see shit accurately?

Use the force?
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Gordon Liddy 8/27/2019 5:20am
8/27/2019 5:20am
During the latest interview I saw (Swapmoto 4-6 wks ago?) he said that he would make a decision around the end of 2019.

I am a huge Weston fan. I'm really bummed for him.
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dickjackson170 8/27/2019 6:00am
8/27/2019 6:00am
If so, good on him for making the best decision for his health. I'm not sure where you guys are coming with "adapt" and comparing this to KR94. This is clearly the right decision. The comparison to the end of Langston's career is spot on.
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Bnagazina wrote:
Tony D raced pro after his eye injury. But the choice is Weston’s and if he was smart enough to carry an insurance policy, I say...
Tony D raced pro after his eye injury. But the choice is Weston’s and if he was smart enough to carry an insurance policy, I say good on you young man! Decide what your next challenge will be and get after it.
You do know that Tony D was later paralyzed, right? Google his story...it may change your perspective on racing at the top level with one eye. Besides, no real comparison between the speeds they went back then and what Peick and his compadres go on modern equipment...
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Mr. Info 8/27/2019 6:49am
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I think until Weston says it why all the talking about it being over. Weston knows where he is at and having hope is not the wrong direction to keep looking.
When he feels he’s ready to announce anything he will. He is straight up honest and no BS.
Let’s keep it positive and pull for him at whatever he does. And the best part is his family is supporting him 200% at what ever he does. Weston is one part of a great family unit and that’s the best thing to have. M
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tcallahan707 wrote:
Plenty of athletes have used hard work and determination to get somewhere. That doesn't make them a great trainer or coach. Pro sports are littered with...
Plenty of athletes have used hard work and determination to get somewhere. That doesn't make them a great trainer or coach. Pro sports are littered with player turned coach busts.

I'm not saying he isn't capable of learning to be a great coach/trainer, but I think it's a large assumption to think that he has the skills to take an internal feeling/knowledge and package it in a way that is easily digested by a student. With his bulldog approach, I'm not sure he is technically sound enough on or off the bike to the point that he could teach it. I'm sure he would be a benefit to someone needing pushed, but it's not simply a "work harder" world anymore.
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Also a large assumption to think he’s anything but not what you assume he’s not. Unless you know him personally.
tcallahan707 wrote:
The assumption is made off of public knowledge, which means there is only one way that coin can land. You can't have two majorities. Most athletes...
The assumption is made off of public knowledge, which means there is only one way that coin can land. You can't have two majorities.

Most athletes don't make great coaches/trainers. It's an entirely different skillset and passion with a need for a small ego.

I don't know A Mart personally but I know he's a nutrition and training nerd. I don't know Dungey personally but I know he's technically perfect on a bike. I don't know AC personally but I know he's well beyond his ego. Given the public data available on Peick, there isn't much that points to him possessing the traits above.

He can hammer down no doubt and has earned his way. I think we can all agree to that. I simply asked the question because at this point, nothing indicates a bright future coaching or training motocross racers. I'm not saying it's not possible that he does possess the skills and traits required, or that he can't learn them. I simply think it's a big assumption given what I know. Maybe someone knows him personally and can shed more light on it, which was the point of the question in the first place. I just don't see it.

Budman helped Pieck a lot, how about DV /Ferrandis or NYK/AC? Swanepoel as well. They all have a lot in common
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tcallahan707 8/27/2019 7:09am
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JL13 wrote:
Also a large assumption to think he’s anything but not what you assume he’s not. Unless you know him personally.
tcallahan707 wrote:
The assumption is made off of public knowledge, which means there is only one way that coin can land. You can't have two majorities. Most athletes...
The assumption is made off of public knowledge, which means there is only one way that coin can land. You can't have two majorities.

Most athletes don't make great coaches/trainers. It's an entirely different skillset and passion with a need for a small ego.

I don't know A Mart personally but I know he's a nutrition and training nerd. I don't know Dungey personally but I know he's technically perfect on a bike. I don't know AC personally but I know he's well beyond his ego. Given the public data available on Peick, there isn't much that points to him possessing the traits above.

He can hammer down no doubt and has earned his way. I think we can all agree to that. I simply asked the question because at this point, nothing indicates a bright future coaching or training motocross racers. I'm not saying it's not possible that he does possess the skills and traits required, or that he can't learn them. I simply think it's a big assumption given what I know. Maybe someone knows him personally and can shed more light on it, which was the point of the question in the first place. I just don't see it.

Rizzo wrote:
Budman helped Pieck a lot, how about DV /Ferrandis or NYK/AC? Swanepoel as well. They all have a lot in common
It’s entirely possible. I simply don’t understand the assumption.
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WheelieNelson 8/27/2019 8:04am
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Optic nerves don’t heal
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Mr. Info wrote:
I think until Weston says it why all the talking about it being over. Weston knows where he is at and having hope is not the...
I think until Weston says it why all the talking about it being over. Weston knows where he is at and having hope is not the wrong direction to keep looking.
When he feels he’s ready to announce anything he will. He is straight up honest and no BS.
Let’s keep it positive and pull for him at whatever he does. And the best part is his family is supporting him 200% at what ever he does. Weston is one part of a great family unit and that’s the best thing to have. M
We don't agree often but this I agree with 100%
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TXDirt 8/27/2019 9:31am
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Hang up the boots. Enjoy your life. Enjoy your family.

Moto shouldn't be your identity. It's just something you do.
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harescrambled 8/27/2019 9:45am
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Red Crawford wrote:
Pretty sure he has mentioned an insurance policy against career-ending injury. Collecting on said policy requires a 'process.' Emig and Milsaps have discussed similar policies.
I believe DV has such a policy while he was racing as well. I think I remember him saying something about that
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Last Braaap 8/27/2019 10:38am
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WheelieNelson wrote:
Optic nerves don’t heal
not entirely true. They can heal to some point but it takes a tonne of time.

(a family friend got hit with a lower part of a frame of bike right into a helmet opening while getting up after fall on the landing - resulted in a half of face made of titanium and the sight still isn't 100% after 7 years; him being now 52 yo vet doesn't help i guess )
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ga_pike 8/27/2019 10:41am
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Bnagazina wrote:
Tony D raced pro after his eye injury. But the choice is Weston’s and if he was smart enough to carry an insurance policy, I say...
Tony D raced pro after his eye injury. But the choice is Weston’s and if he was smart enough to carry an insurance policy, I say good on you young man! Decide what your next challenge will be and get after it.
Natester551v wrote:
You do know that Tony D was later paralyzed, right? Google his story...it may change your perspective on racing at the top level with one eye...
You do know that Tony D was later paralyzed, right? Google his story...it may change your perspective on racing at the top level with one eye. Besides, no real comparison between the speeds they went back then and what Peick and his compadres go on modern equipment...
Tony D was not paralyzed while racing. He was injured in 1988 well after he was no longer racing professionally. My understanding is that it happened during one of his schools and they were out at dusk and he couldn't see well enough and crashed.

Also, I have non-correctable amblyopia (lazy eye). I'm not 100% blind, but my right eye does not function as it should. My vision is extremely blurry, I see shapes but can't read with that eye and there is sort of a "blind spot" in the middle of my vision in that eye. While my depth perception may be impaired, my left eye and brain have done an excellent job making up for it. I never once felt at a disadvantage while racing or playing any sport and I'd suggest any depth perception issues I may have are extremely minor. My biggest issue is that my left eye gets tired more quickly as I get older. I also do many things left handed to compensate for my left eye being dominate.

I'm in no way saying Weston should give it a go because each individual situation is different. Just sharing my experience.
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Brent 8/27/2019 1:58pm
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This is why Motocross is the toughest sport on earth.

Even with talent, dedication, support staff, family, and hard work, your riding days can be gone in an instant with one crash - and it can happen just practicing the sport.

The list of elite riders whose careers where cut short by injury is much longer than riders who have a good ten year plus career.

No other sport chews up and spits out talented people like dirt bike racing, MX/SX is about as brutal as it gets.
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ButteryWaffles 9/1/2019 7:32am
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Who gives a shit about who returned from what injury. No two injuries/recoveries are the same. And we're really going to compare a motocross rider to a damn stock car driver? Cmon man.

I'd like to see Peick back out there, but it doesn't seem like a realistic option.

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TXDirt wrote:
Hang up the boots. Enjoy your life. Enjoy your family.

Moto shouldn't be your identity. It's just something you do.
Exactly!
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Red Crawford wrote:
Pretty sure he has mentioned an insurance policy against career-ending injury. Collecting on said policy requires a 'process.' Emig and Milsaps have discussed similar policies.
harescrambled wrote:
I believe DV has such a policy while he was racing as well. I think I remember him saying something about that
And if he collects the money. He cant race.
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Red Crawford wrote:
Pretty sure he has mentioned an insurance policy against career-ending injury. Collecting on said policy requires a 'process.' Emig and Milsaps have discussed similar policies.
harescrambled wrote:
I believe DV has such a policy while he was racing as well. I think I remember him saying something about that
mxb2 wrote:
And if he collects the money. He cant race.
for how long can they (ins ) hold that? year , 2 10 life?
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mxb2 9/1/2019 8:34am
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harescrambled wrote:
I believe DV has such a policy while he was racing as well. I think I remember him saying something about that
mxb2 wrote:
And if he collects the money. He cant race.
zippytech wrote:
for how long can they (ins ) hold that? year , 2 10 life?
Not sure , most settlements pay out, and you cant collect any $$ or race pro events involving money. Like work mans comp, if you collect ya cant do certain things. Settlement is void and you will be paying it back.
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Red Crawford 9/1/2019 9:34am
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Red Crawford wrote:
Pretty sure he has mentioned an insurance policy against career-ending injury. Collecting on said policy requires a 'process.' Emig and Milsaps have discussed similar policies.
harescrambled wrote:
I believe DV has such a policy while he was racing as well. I think I remember him saying something about that
mxb2 wrote:
And if he collects the money. He cant race.

I believe Emig mentioned in an interview the lengthy collection process and the gamesmanship played by the insurance company in such circumstances.

Collecting a lifetime stream of benefits isn't as easy as calling your local insurance agent and waiting for checks to start hitting the postbox.

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mxb2 9/1/2019 9:54am
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harescrambled wrote:
I believe DV has such a policy while he was racing as well. I think I remember him saying something about that
mxb2 wrote:
And if he collects the money. He cant race.
Red Crawford wrote:
I believe Emig mentioned in an interview the lengthy collection process and the gamesmanship played by the insurance company in such circumstances. Collecting a lifetime stream...

I believe Emig mentioned in an interview the lengthy collection process and the gamesmanship played by the insurance company in such circumstances.

Collecting a lifetime stream of benefits isn't as easy as calling your local insurance agent and waiting for checks to start hitting the postbox.

X2. Basically if he. Collects. His pro career is over.
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mxb2 wrote:
And if he collects the money. He cant race.
Red Crawford wrote:
I believe Emig mentioned in an interview the lengthy collection process and the gamesmanship played by the insurance company in such circumstances. Collecting a lifetime stream...

I believe Emig mentioned in an interview the lengthy collection process and the gamesmanship played by the insurance company in such circumstances.

Collecting a lifetime stream of benefits isn't as easy as calling your local insurance agent and waiting for checks to start hitting the postbox.

mxb2 wrote:
X2. Basically if he. Collects. His pro career is over.
Yessir.
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zippytech 9/1/2019 10:19am
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So, he would not even be able to race a local A class race the rest of his life? As most of them pay out something.
Frère Jacques 9/1/2019 10:41am
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He did what racers almost never do. To get from where he started at such a late age. Major respect.

Did he ever podium a sx?
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SLAPAHO 9/1/2019 12:39pm
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Frère Jacques wrote:
He did what racers almost never do. To get from where he started at such a late age. Major respect.

Did he ever podium a sx?
3rd at Santa Clara and 3rd at Las Vegas SX's in 2015
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Matt Fisher 9/1/2019 12:40pm
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Frère Jacques wrote:
He did what racers almost never do. To get from where he started at such a late age. Major respect.

Did he ever podium a sx?
Twice in 2015 he garnered a third place. He would have also had another third at the Phoenix round but broke his foot without crashing and ended up in 4th.
To The Chopper 9/1/2019 1:43pm
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The only shock here would be if gets on a bike again.

Very unfortunate, but after that... can you imagine the potential for massive damage from another big one?

I for one hope he's been smart with the money he's made, has insurance, and moves into the next phase of his life. It's just a dirt bike.
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