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On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on a limb but I’m pretty sure he knows a thing or two about factory bikes. So you KTM owners that want to bash The yz450f every other week on vital need to eat some humble pie.
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Goon126 wrote:
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on...
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on a limb but I’m pretty sure he knows a thing or two about factory bikes. So you KTM owners that want to bash The yz450f every other week on vital need to eat some humble pie.
You miss the bit where he also said, as Cooper’s teammate, he didn’t have the tool to do the job?
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Goon126 wrote:
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on...
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on a limb but I’m pretty sure he knows a thing or two about factory bikes. So you KTM owners that want to bash The yz450f every other week on vital need to eat some humble pie.
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You miss the bit where he also said, as Cooper’s teammate, he didn’t have the tool to do the job?
Well if Reed says the bike wasn’t the reason, apparently the “tool” he was missing was not the bike. Did you not get that?
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T-Fish 5/5/2019 2:31am
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Hard to take his comment very serious when he’s likely never ridden a Factory KTM.
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Goon126 wrote:
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on...
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on a limb but I’m pretty sure he knows a thing or two about factory bikes. So you KTM owners that want to bash The yz450f every other week on vital need to eat some humble pie.
Crush wrote:
You miss the bit where he also said, as Cooper’s teammate, he didn’t have the tool to do the job?
Goon126 wrote:
Well if Reed says the bike wasn’t the reason, apparently the “tool” he was missing was not the bike. Did you not get that?
Listen again.

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Goon126 5/5/2019 2:34am
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Crush wrote:
You miss the bit where he also said, as Cooper’s teammate, he didn’t have the tool to do the job?
Goon126 wrote:
Well if Reed says the bike wasn’t the reason, apparently the “tool” he was missing was not the bike. Did you not get that?
Crush wrote:
Listen again.
Sounds like training to me. Did you hear when he talked about riding the Husky? He said it had faults if I’m not mistaken
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Goon126 5/5/2019 2:35am
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Hard to take his comment very serious when he’s likely never ridden a Factory KTM.
No but I bet you have more knowledge on a factory KTM than Reed.
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Goon126 wrote:
Well if Reed says the bike wasn’t the reason, apparently the “tool” he was missing was not the bike. Did you not get that?
Crush wrote:
Listen again.
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Sounds like training to me. Did you hear when he talked about riding the Husky? He said it had faults if I’m not mistaken
He literally said he doesn’t think the ktm has some sort of magic, or that it’s Aldon either, but the entirety of the program, the team, the environment, Roger and the expecatations. He did say he rode a similar bike and all bikes have their +/-. I don’t particularly have a view as it seems irrelevant giving barracking for your favorite colour based on your experience as they’re all factory and not what you can ride....

To your point tho, he was definite about not having the tool as a Yamaha rider, but see my last point.
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fullysicmate 5/5/2019 2:59am
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Goon126 wrote:
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on...
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on a limb but I’m pretty sure he knows a thing or two about factory bikes. So you KTM owners that want to bash The yz450f every other week on vital need to eat some humble pie.
No.

Coopers results speak for themselves, even if the bike is only part of the reason, then it is still part of the reason. My opinion comes from having owned and raced both the modern generation Yamaha and KTM 450, the first 2hrs on the KTM felt like riding a spaceship, then the confidence came and it felt like I was 15 again.

Best comparison would be a ktm is to a yzf, as a yzf is to an xr650....plenty fast but doesn’t handle.
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Goon126 5/5/2019 3:15am
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Crush wrote:
Listen again.
Goon126 wrote:
Sounds like training to me. Did you hear when he talked about riding the Husky? He said it had faults if I’m not mistaken
Crush wrote:
He literally said he doesn’t think the ktm has some sort of magic, or that it’s Aldon either, but the entirety of the program, the team...
He literally said he doesn’t think the ktm has some sort of magic, or that it’s Aldon either, but the entirety of the program, the team, the environment, Roger and the expecatations. He did say he rode a similar bike and all bikes have their +/-. I don’t particularly have a view as it seems irrelevant giving barracking for your favorite colour based on your experience as they’re all factory and not what you can ride....

To your point tho, he was definite about not having the tool as a Yamaha rider, but see my last point.
Not having the tool as a Yamaha rider...training
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Goon126 5/5/2019 3:16am
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Goon126 wrote:
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on...
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on a limb but I’m pretty sure he knows a thing or two about factory bikes. So you KTM owners that want to bash The yz450f every other week on vital need to eat some humble pie.
fullysicmate wrote:
No. Coopers results speak for themselves, even if the bike is only part of the reason, then it is still part of the reason. My opinion...
No.

Coopers results speak for themselves, even if the bike is only part of the reason, then it is still part of the reason. My opinion comes from having owned and raced both the modern generation Yamaha and KTM 450, the first 2hrs on the KTM felt like riding a spaceship, then the confidence came and it felt like I was 15 again.

Best comparison would be a ktm is to a yzf, as a yzf is to an xr650....plenty fast but doesn’t handle.
Another guy who knows more than Chad Reed
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fullysicmate 5/5/2019 3:18am
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Goon126 wrote:
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on...
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on a limb but I’m pretty sure he knows a thing or two about factory bikes. So you KTM owners that want to bash The yz450f every other week on vital need to eat some humble pie.
fullysicmate wrote:
No. Coopers results speak for themselves, even if the bike is only part of the reason, then it is still part of the reason. My opinion...
No.

Coopers results speak for themselves, even if the bike is only part of the reason, then it is still part of the reason. My opinion comes from having owned and raced both the modern generation Yamaha and KTM 450, the first 2hrs on the KTM felt like riding a spaceship, then the confidence came and it felt like I was 15 again.

Best comparison would be a ktm is to a yzf, as a yzf is to an xr650....plenty fast but doesn’t handle.
Goon126 wrote:
Another guy who knows more than Chad Reed
Get off his dick..?
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fullysicmate wrote:
No. Coopers results speak for themselves, even if the bike is only part of the reason, then it is still part of the reason. My opinion...
No.

Coopers results speak for themselves, even if the bike is only part of the reason, then it is still part of the reason. My opinion comes from having owned and raced both the modern generation Yamaha and KTM 450, the first 2hrs on the KTM felt like riding a spaceship, then the confidence came and it felt like I was 15 again.

Best comparison would be a ktm is to a yzf, as a yzf is to an xr650....plenty fast but doesn’t handle.
Goon126 wrote:
Another guy who knows more than Chad Reed
fullysicmate wrote:
Get off his dick..?
Im not even a huge Reed fan. He knows a lot more than you special people that wanna hate on Yamahas because you didnt buy one
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fullysicmate 5/5/2019 3:28am
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Goon126 wrote:
Another guy who knows more than Chad Reed
fullysicmate wrote:
Get off his dick..?
Goon126 wrote:
Im not even a huge Reed fan. He knows a lot more than you special people that wanna hate on Yamahas because you didnt buy one
I did buy one....I then sold it because handled like a tank. Have you tried anything else?
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Goon126 5/5/2019 3:37am
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fullysicmate wrote:
Get off his dick..?
Goon126 wrote:
Im not even a huge Reed fan. He knows a lot more than you special people that wanna hate on Yamahas because you didnt buy one
fullysicmate wrote:
I did buy one....I then sold it because handled like a tank. Have you tried anything else?
Ohh boy. Im not pro but I do love my 18 yz450f. My opinion is worthless about other bikes that I have rode
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Sipes #412 5/5/2019 6:37am
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I agree it's not the bike. Have you ever heard the term 80% rider 20% bike for the people on here who thought it was the bike? Well it applies to everyone. Going to ktm seemed to help him mentally and physically. Getting a call from ktm would definitely give you a mental boost after having a bad start on your 450 career and having aldon as your trainer just made things better. To me it seems he was in better shape mentally and physically maybe that was his missing "tool" not the bike. These factory riders have all the resources and time they need to get the bike to their liking.
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Sipes #412 wrote:
I agree it's not the bike. Have you ever heard the term 80% rider 20% bike for the people on here who thought it was the...
I agree it's not the bike. Have you ever heard the term 80% rider 20% bike for the people on here who thought it was the bike? Well it applies to everyone. Going to ktm seemed to help him mentally and physically. Getting a call from ktm would definitely give you a mental boost after having a bad start on your 450 career and having aldon as your trainer just made things better. To me it seems he was in better shape mentally and physically maybe that was his missing "tool" not the bike. These factory riders have all the resources and time they need to get the bike to their liking.
Can't say I agree with your last statement, but agree with everything else
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peltier626 5/5/2019 8:08am
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I'm a yamaha fan but that yzf450 has not done much for anyone lately. It cant just be coincidence. Just saying.
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crowe176 5/5/2019 8:39am
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Wait, I just bought a yz450f yesterday. First Yamaha. Am I fucked or not?
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Naanak 5/5/2019 8:51am
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It wasn’t just the bike, it was the over all program change all together. The yz wasn’t bad but the setups were not the best.
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loftyair 5/5/2019 8:52am
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KTM won sx. All others suck!? Ive ridden a '19 yz450, it is a sweet bike. All bikes are not for everyone. But for us mortals, I bet its maybe a second on a track, which still gets you 'midpack'. Its better to be comfortable, than to get that 'second'.
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Goon126 wrote:
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on...
On the “FLY RACING MOTO:60 SHOW” Chad Reed says the KTM was NOT the reason Webb has become a contender this year. I’m going out on a limb but I’m pretty sure he knows a thing or two about factory bikes. So you KTM owners that want to bash The yz450f every other week on vital need to eat some humble pie.
only difference KTM makes is having access to Aldon Baker

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