Why can't teams sell merchandise at SX?

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Just listened to the Rock River podcast on Pulp and thought it was great. One takeaway I was surprised by was that it could help teams if they could sell at the SX races.

What is the reason why Feld won't allow it? Chris & Christina said it could help bring in and/or retain sponsors...

Apparently, they had to get permission to give away items as long as they didn't give away hats or t-shirts??? I don't get it...

If you haven't listened to the podcast, it's an insightful one... I'm more of a fan of their team after listening...

http://pulpmx.com/podcast/guest-chris-and-christina-denney/
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I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's a shame. It'd be cool to buy merchandise from the privateer teams that could use the extra income.
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It would help the sport ten fold if the teams could sell merchandise. It is ridiculous and greedy. The money for the guys under the top 10 is laughable. Amateur bass fishing weekend warrior nobodies make a ton more than professional athletes risking life on TV. Its pathetic.
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5/4/2019 8:31am Edited Date/Time 5/4/2019 8:32am
I would actually really like to buy some moto tees from some of the teams. The shirts that Feld sells at the races are garbage and look like something I’d wear if I were 12 with a Mountain Dew in one hand and Cheetos in the other while watching wrestle mania
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I would actually really like to buy some moto tees from some of the teams. The shirts that Feld sells at the races are garbage and...
I would actually really like to buy some moto tees from some of the teams. The shirts that Feld sells at the races are garbage and look like something I’d wear if I were 12 with a Mountain Dew in one hand and Cheetos in the other while watching wrestle mania
They sell geico, pc stuff there and online.

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5/4/2019 8:38am Edited Date/Time 5/4/2019 8:39am
God forbid a dollar changes hands at an SX event, and FELD doesn't get a cent of it..... And who would have ever thought that all these teams could benefit from some extra revenue to keep the teams wheels turning? FELD needs to wake up and realize that without these teams in the pits, they have no show to sell. The purse money alone is a huge kick in the crotch.....
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I would actually really like to buy some moto tees from some of the teams. The shirts that Feld sells at the races are garbage and...
I would actually really like to buy some moto tees from some of the teams. The shirts that Feld sells at the races are garbage and look like something I’d wear if I were 12 with a Mountain Dew in one hand and Cheetos in the other while watching wrestle mania
mxb2 wrote:
They sell geico, pc stuff there and online.
I guess I’m just thinking of the black shirts with random riders and the almighty claw logo plastered all over it that I saw while walking by their merch booth quickly.
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I would actually really like to buy some moto tees from some of the teams. The shirts that Feld sells at the races are garbage and...
I would actually really like to buy some moto tees from some of the teams. The shirts that Feld sells at the races are garbage and look like something I’d wear if I were 12 with a Mountain Dew in one hand and Cheetos in the other while watching wrestle mania
mxb2 wrote:
They sell geico, pc stuff there and online.
I guess I’m just thinking of the black shirts with random riders and the almighty claw logo plastered all over it that I saw while walking...
I guess I’m just thinking of the black shirts with random riders and the almighty claw logo plastered all over it that I saw while walking by their merch booth quickly.
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Right! Cause they want to sell their highly overpriced “concert”/“nascar” t-shirts and hats to Johnny Q Public. They know that if teams are allowed to sell merch then their “highway robbery” scheme falls to ZERO!

Their merch is hideous!
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5/4/2019 9:22am
Where is that damn Riders Union???
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Supercross is owned by Feld, That's their business why is it not okay for them to profit?

Also I think for the right price a rider or team can buy a license and sell Merchandise.

I see the point of selling Merchandise but you also have to look at the person who did pay to have exclusive rights to hat and shirts etc.

This is not a pure case of Good vs Evil, it's Business.
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MudPup545 wrote:
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's...
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's a shame. It'd be cool to buy merchandise from the privateer teams that could use the extra income.
Who the f*** downvotes this?
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Not's just SX, can't do it outdoors either...$$$
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Just listened to the Rock River podcast on Pulp and thought it was great. One takeaway I was surprised by was that it could help teams...
Just listened to the Rock River podcast on Pulp and thought it was great. One takeaway I was surprised by was that it could help teams if they could sell at the SX races.

What is the reason why Feld won't allow it? Chris & Christina said it could help bring in and/or retain sponsors...

Apparently, they had to get permission to give away items as long as they didn't give away hats or t-shirts??? I don't get it...

If you haven't listened to the podcast, it's an insightful one... I'm more of a fan of their team after listening...

http://pulpmx.com/podcast/guest-chris-and-christina-denney/
Because that doesn’t make Feld money.

That’s why..
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It's bull. At the Seattle SX my daughter wanted something as a souvenir, but it was all crap. For f*cks sake, they were selling red Yamahas you see at wallmart.... We had kids with us and not one of us bought a damn thing other than beer. The stuff was so bad the kids didn't even want it and I sure as hell am not buying anything with Monster claws all over it. We saved a lot of money thanks to Feld, but my kid was bummed. /end rant.

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5/4/2019 11:18am
This was going on long before both Feld and Monster were around so making them both out to be the devil just shows how little some of you clowns know. Without both Feld and Monster where do you think the sport would be?
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5/4/2019 11:24am
MudPup545 wrote:
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's...
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's a shame. It'd be cool to buy merchandise from the privateer teams that could use the extra income.
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Who the f*** downvotes this?
I did because most of these jokers have no clue what the hell they are talking about.Without Monster there would be no slice of the pie. All you jackasses bitch about Feld and Monster when they are the ones growing the sport and investing the money to get it to where it is now, not you clowns that all you do is bitch.
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If I were a team owner, I’d sell the stuff anyway. What’s Feld going to do? If all the teams do it, it would be fine. Not like Feld would send them all packing. Fans would go ape shit and Feld would be done. Sometimes, you have to just say fuck it.
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I would be willing to bet that the people selling the merchandise have an exclusive license for the rights to sell. Feld is merely holding up their end of the "exclusive" deal by prohibiting competition at their event.
Imagine Bob is having a garage sale. You have some tee shirts you want to sell and Bob agrees to let you use his driveway but only if you pay him $50 first. You'll need to sell a lot of tees to cover that $50, but you agree. How would you feel if Bob let his other neighbors sell tees to each other on his driveway also? Not only that, but they are arguably cooler tees and they are cheaper because the neighbors didn't have to pay $50? It's just business and all is fair.
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Imagine going to a National and having all the major brands and aftermarket folks there with semis full of parts and swag for sale. Need a Wiseco piston, a pair of Renthal bars, some new gear...you name it. It could be a lot better.
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By the way, Feld does indeed need teams to have a show. I think it's pretty apparent that they don't necessarily need THESE teams. Any others would do just fine, and they would slip right in to fill the void as soon as somebody left.
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Pretty sure they are all working their ways around it. I’ve seen Marv posting about his merc available online. Just wear it at the events and promote it as available online. People can buy online and have it delivered.
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MudPup545 wrote:
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's...
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's a shame. It'd be cool to buy merchandise from the privateer teams that could use the extra income.
Ray_MXS wrote:
Who the f*** downvotes this?
lostboy819 wrote:
I did because most of these jokers have no clue what the hell they are talking about.Without Monster there would be no slice of the pie...
I did because most of these jokers have no clue what the hell they are talking about.Without Monster there would be no slice of the pie. All you jackasses bitch about Feld and Monster when they are the ones growing the sport and investing the money to get it to where it is now, not you clowns that all you do is bitch.
So by that logic, are they going to blur out a Red Bull Rider promoting their sponsor on the podium when in airs?

This reminds me of the old conflict thing back when Chevy was the promoter but because Suzuki also made cars at the time, a stink got brought up from some ama rules about a series sponsor that conflicts with a manufacturer.

I honestly feel like this is more of a Monster issue then a Feld one. I can't stand Feld, between how they run things and talking to people who work for them they sound like a scumbag company. But they run the series, and I doubt sold merch on site would conflict with anything one their end.

Monster would be a different story. They obviously only want stuff sold that they are associated with.

Just my observation.
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5/4/2019 11:56am Edited Date/Time 5/4/2019 11:58am
plowboy wrote:
Imagine going to a National and having all the major brands and aftermarket folks there with semis full of parts and swag for sale. Need a...
Imagine going to a National and having all the major brands and aftermarket folks there with semis full of parts and swag for sale. Need a Wiseco piston, a pair of Renthal bars, some new gear...you name it. It could be a lot better.
I could understand Monster making a stink about certain brands, and Feld wanting a big chunk.

But I'm honestly shocked I have never seen companies selling hard parts to people on site. People go back and forth between the pits and their cars/hotels to pregame and dress up/down all the time between pit open and night show.

The merch is a tricky one because you start getting the legal contracted mess of licensing/promotional grounds.

But hard parts? There's gotta be a reason why it's not done. Maybe logistics and keeping enough on hand for their team/sponsored riders?

Yeah, it sounds to ridiculous to walk around with an exhaust and a few sets of wheels. But fork spring seats, mid valve sets, gasket/piston kits, ECUs, clamps, clutch kits, etc. All small items you can take to point b or keep in a backpack on you without being stupid cumbersome or heavy.
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The day that Feld and Monster get out of Supercross will be a great day...IMHO.
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MudPup545 wrote:
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's...
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's a shame. It'd be cool to buy merchandise from the privateer teams that could use the extra income.
Ray_MXS wrote:
Who the f*** downvotes this?
GuyB maybe?
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lostboy819 wrote:
I did because most of these jokers have no clue what the hell they are talking about.Without Monster there would be no slice of the pie...
I did because most of these jokers have no clue what the hell they are talking about.Without Monster there would be no slice of the pie. All you jackasses bitch about Feld and Monster when they are the ones growing the sport and investing the money to get it to where it is now, not you clowns that all you do is bitch.
Yeah Monster is sponsoring the series and a lot of teams, great. Super good they are doing that.
But it still isn't ok to cut income from all the teams and riders just because they feel like it. What world would that be where if you just pay enough money, you can do whatever you want, no matter how shitty it is.



Oh wait....

Still doesn't make it right.
5/4/2019 12:43pm
Cause, Feld. Welcome to Supercross. Best part? When someone brings in a big sponsor, Feld will take them!
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5/4/2019 1:05pm Edited Date/Time 5/4/2019 3:57pm
MudPup545 wrote:
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's...
I'm guessing if doesn't have the green claw on it, it's not allowed. Monster doesn't want anyone else to get a slice of the pie. It's a shame. It'd be cool to buy merchandise from the privateer teams that could use the extra income.
Ray_MXS wrote:
Who the f*** downvotes this?
lostboy819 wrote:
I did because most of these jokers have no clue what the hell they are talking about.Without Monster there would be no slice of the pie...
I did because most of these jokers have no clue what the hell they are talking about.Without Monster there would be no slice of the pie. All you jackasses bitch about Feld and Monster when they are the ones growing the sport and investing the money to get it to where it is now, not you clowns that all you do is bitch.
Notice that I said "I'm guessing". I admit that I don't know all the behind scenes business in Supercross. And I'm not ignorant nor naive. I get it....Monster pours a lot of money into the sport. That's cool and I'm actually thankful for any support we get. I just think it's a shame that they won't let John Doe privateer sell a hat in the pits. And I've been around long enough to remember when local dealers had booths set up at the Pontiac Silverdome. You could attend a race and see bikes on display. I can remember spending my money on gloves, goggles etc... at the race. Money that went into the sport at a local level. Not just to the promoter. I'm all for free enterprise. Good for Monster knowing how to make a buck but, it wouldn't kill them to let someone else in on the action.
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MudPup545 wrote:
Notice that I said "I'm guessing". I admit that I don't know all the behind scenes business in Supercross. And I'm not ignorant nor naive. I...
Notice that I said "I'm guessing". I admit that I don't know all the behind scenes business in Supercross. And I'm not ignorant nor naive. I get it....Monster pours a lot of money into the sport. That's cool and I'm actually thankful for any support we get. I just think it's a shame that they won't let John Doe privateer sell a hat in the pits. And I've been around long enough to remember when local dealers had booths set up at the Pontiac Silverdome. You could attend a race and see bikes on display. I can remember spending my money on gloves, goggles etc... at the race. Money that went into the sport at a local level. Not just to the promoter. I'm all for free enterprise. Good for Monster knowing how to make a buck but, it wouldn't kill them to let someone else in on the action.
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