Gino Vogliardo Sends the Fox Raceway Quad

theycallmeebryan
Edited Date/Time 5/2/2019 11:00am
Yesterday, local sender Gino Vogliardo sent the quad (triple, however you look at it) on the new Fox Raceway main layout. This thing is HUGE in person.



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Falcon 4/29/2019 9:07am
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gvog himself says "This triple won't be around forever." Just sayin'.
theycallmeebryan 4/29/2019 9:13am
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Falcon wrote:
gvog himself says "This triple won't be around forever." Just sayin'.
There's been a never ending debate on whether landing on the backside of a table is considering 2 jumps or 1. Whatever way you look at it, its a huge jump.
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77Moto 4/29/2019 9:26am
4/29/2019 9:26am Edited Date/Time 4/29/2019 9:29am
A table top is 1 jump. "I cleared the tabletop jump"

2 tabletops in a row = 2 jumps. "I doubled over the tabletops" =1 jump over 2 tabletops.

A double is two singles. "I had to single single the double" =2 jumps

"I cleared the double" =1 jump over 2 single jumps.

A triple is three. "I cleared the triple" =3 single jumps with 1 jump

"I cleared the single to table" = 2 jumps =double

By definition, Quad means 4. They dont call 3 wheelers Quads and vice versa.



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seth505 4/29/2019 9:28am
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O great another "run off the track and nail a random jump combo"...ahha, that said he hit that damn perfect!
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77Moto 4/29/2019 9:32am
4/29/2019 9:32am Edited Date/Time 4/29/2019 9:35am
Falcon wrote:
gvog himself says "This triple won't be around forever." Just sayin'.
theycallmeebryan wrote:
There's been a never ending debate on whether landing on the backside of a table is considering 2 jumps or 1. Whatever way you look at...
There's been a never ending debate on whether landing on the backside of a table is considering 2 jumps or 1. Whatever way you look at it, its a huge jump.
A table top jump is singular.
When has anyone ever said "That is a long ass tabletop jumps"

Never.

If you took the 2nd and 3rd jump out a a true quad, you now just have a huge ass double or two singles.
It is no longer a quad.

1+1=2.

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mattyhamz2 4/29/2019 9:32am
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seth505 wrote:
O great another "run off the track and nail a random jump combo"...ahha, that said he hit that damn perfect!
Yup. I'll be way more impressed when someone does it coming out of the actual corner that's part of the track.
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mac3-d 4/29/2019 9:35am
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I see a corner on his left before he takes off , so he is cutting the course to jump a double & table in one , clap clap
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akillerwombat 4/29/2019 9:37am
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77Moto wrote:
A table top jump is singular. When has anyone ever said "That is a long ass tabletop jumps" Never. If you took the 2nd and 3rd...
A table top jump is singular.
When has anyone ever said "That is a long ass tabletop jumps"

Never.

If you took the 2nd and 3rd jump out a a true quad, you now just have a huge ass double or two singles.
It is no longer a quad.

1+1=2.

It's Monday, bro.

Deep breaths.
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motomike894 4/29/2019 9:45am
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Doesn't really count for much when you are going around the track to do it, still pretty sick but still.
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People going off the track to set up for a jump they wouldn't be able to do if they stayed on the track has never really appealed to me.

I can see why people are into seeing big jumps though.
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Axell was the first to do it, right?
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theycallmeebryan 4/29/2019 10:02am
4/29/2019 10:02am
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad.....

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theycallmeebryan 4/29/2019 10:09am
4/29/2019 10:09am
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Yup. I'll be way more impressed when someone does it coming out of the actual corner that's part of the track.
It might be possible for a fast pro to rail the outside of the turn before it and triple on to the table, but theres no way anyone is landing on the backside of the table from that corner. There's just simply not enough run up. Gino said he was 4th gear on his 450 on it pretty good to clear it from off track.
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77Moto 4/29/2019 10:26am
4/29/2019 10:26am Edited Date/Time 4/29/2019 10:37am
theycallmeebryan wrote:
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/29/342735/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad.....

That is 3 jumps.

If you did them all separate it would be single, single, tabletop.

" I tripled over the double tabletop"

^ ^ ^ ^ is a quad.
For example, This is a Triple, Quad.

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shredder23 4/29/2019 10:28am
4/29/2019 10:28am Edited Date/Time 4/29/2019 10:32am
Who gives a shit whether its a triple or quad, sending yourself into oblivion like that is gnarly. How bout a 125 going for it...

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theycallmeebryan 4/29/2019 10:33am
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/29/342735/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad.....

77Moto wrote:
That is 3 jumps. If you did them all separate it would be single, single, tabletop. " I tripled over the double tabletop" ^ ^ ^...
That is 3 jumps.

If you did them all separate it would be single, single, tabletop.

" I tripled over the double tabletop"

^ ^ ^ ^ is a quad.
For example, This is a Triple, Quad.

I go by number of landing opportunities. I consider the top of a table top a landing spot in some cases.

Looking at the diagram i drew, what would you call it when a guy jumps from the first takeoff and lands on top of the table? (What i'm calling triple in the diagram). I'd say most people would call it "tripling on to the table".
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mattyhamz2 4/29/2019 10:34am
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shredder23 wrote:
Who gives a shit whether its a triple or quad, sending yourself into oblivion like that is gnarly. How bout a 125 going for it... View...
Who gives a shit whether its a triple or quad, sending yourself into oblivion like that is gnarly. How bout a 125 going for it...

This right here is the problem I have with this kind of shit. Now a handful of guys willing to twist the throttle that have no business trying this are going to try it. Not saying that guy has no business doing it because I don't know who it is, but it will happen.

Look at the jump Scummy and Raha did in Simi Valley. That kid on the Suzuki wasn't even top beginner speed and went out there to huck it. It's stupid.
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77Moto 4/29/2019 10:48am
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
I go by number of landing opportunities. I consider the top of a table top a landing spot in some cases. Looking at the diagram i...
I go by number of landing opportunities. I consider the top of a table top a landing spot in some cases.

Looking at the diagram i drew, what would you call it when a guy jumps from the first takeoff and lands on top of the table? (What i'm calling triple in the diagram). I'd say most people would call it "tripling on to the table".
A table is one jump. "Tabletop jump" It has never been called a tabletop jumps, denoting two.

Tabletop jump(S), refers to 2 jumps.
Because the only time you'd want to land on the top is when jumping the scenario in your diagram and coming up short.

A tabletop is not two jumps unless you cut out the middle.
Then it becomes a double.
Therefore a tabletop, by definition, is one jump. If you delete the middle section, it is now two single jumps, or one double.

But in this day an age of everyone wanting a participation trophy, a guy riding over two single jumps can tell everyone
"I jumped the double"

But really he went single, single.

Another scenario would be single, tabletop, single.

If you clear it all, you could claim "I tripled over the tabletop" Because if you did each obstacle singularly, there are 3 obstacles. Not 4.

Simple math.



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Naanak 4/29/2019 10:52am
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
I go by number of landing opportunities. I consider the top of a table top a landing spot in some cases. Looking at the diagram i...
I go by number of landing opportunities. I consider the top of a table top a landing spot in some cases.

Looking at the diagram i drew, what would you call it when a guy jumps from the first takeoff and lands on top of the table? (What i'm calling triple in the diagram). I'd say most people would call it "tripling on to the table".
I don’t even think it’s worth explaining. You have literally given perfect examples and they still don’t get it. Laughing
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77Moto 4/29/2019 10:58am
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
This right here is the problem I have with this kind of shit. Now a handful of guys willing to twist the throttle that have no...
This right here is the problem I have with this kind of shit. Now a handful of guys willing to twist the throttle that have no business trying this are going to try it. Not saying that guy has no business doing it because I don't know who it is, but it will happen.

Look at the jump Scummy and Raha did in Simi Valley. That kid on the Suzuki wasn't even top beginner speed and went out there to huck it. It's stupid.
We have 4 private tracks we do this all the time on for fun.

And FYI, Tracy Monterone did the train track jump 10 years before anyone else. And it was over a moving train too.

https://youtu.be/mAOx64JvXs4



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Falcon 4/29/2019 11:01am
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/29/342735/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad.....

The blue line is called "casing a triple" in any other argument. The green line is "clearing a triple."


Cool OK, let's all stop arguing this topic in a thread about a righteous jump. I shouldn't have opened my mouth. Wink
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BR8ES 4/29/2019 11:04am
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Still a big fuckin jump.
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Bubba could clear it out of the corner.
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Boomslang 4/29/2019 11:10am
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seth505 wrote:
O great another "run off the track and nail a random jump combo"...ahha, that said he hit that damn perfect!
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Yup. I'll be way more impressed when someone does it coming out of the actual corner that's part of the track.
Exactly. It's not a quad, tripple or double if you'r not riding within the actual track limits to clear it.

This dude has endless run up to clear that....nothing special.

Want to claim some fame? Then go after Madison's World Record....or stay within the track limits.
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77Moto 4/29/2019 11:12am
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/29/342735/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad.....

Falcon wrote:
The blue line is called "casing a triple" in any other argument. The green line is "clearing a triple." B) OK, let's all stop arguing this...
The blue line is called "casing a triple" in any other argument. The green line is "clearing a triple."


Cool OK, let's all stop arguing this topic in a thread about a righteous jump. I shouldn't have opened my mouth. Wink
Some people didn't grow up the entitled era, where clearing a tabletop is "Clearing the huge double"


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theycallmeebryan 4/29/2019 11:15am
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/29/342735/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad.....

Falcon wrote:
The blue line is called "casing a triple" in any other argument. The green line is "clearing a triple." B) OK, let's all stop arguing this...
The blue line is called "casing a triple" in any other argument. The green line is "clearing a triple."


Cool OK, let's all stop arguing this topic in a thread about a righteous jump. I shouldn't have opened my mouth. Wink
77Moto wrote:
Some people didn't grow up the entitled era, where clearing a tabletop is "Clearing the huge double"


Are you calling me entitled? I bet you think my daddy bought all my bikes, huh? Whistling
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mattyhamz2 4/29/2019 11:19am
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
This right here is the problem I have with this kind of shit. Now a handful of guys willing to twist the throttle that have no...
This right here is the problem I have with this kind of shit. Now a handful of guys willing to twist the throttle that have no business trying this are going to try it. Not saying that guy has no business doing it because I don't know who it is, but it will happen.

Look at the jump Scummy and Raha did in Simi Valley. That kid on the Suzuki wasn't even top beginner speed and went out there to huck it. It's stupid.
77Moto wrote:
We have 4 private tracks we do this all the time on for fun. And FYI, Tracy Monterone did the train track jump 10 years before...
We have 4 private tracks we do this all the time on for fun.

And FYI, Tracy Monterone did the train track jump 10 years before anyone else. And it was over a moving train too.

https://youtu.be/mAOx64JvXs4



Oh I'm sure there are more people that did it and knew it was being done back in the 90's. I was making a point that a local kid here had no business doing it and has nowhere near the skill it took to actually do it thought it would be cool to still jump it. Scummy showed up and tried talking the kid out of it. If I can find the kids IG I'll post it. He wrecked himself!
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zehn 4/29/2019 11:27am
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77Moto wrote:
Some people didn't grow up the entitled era, where clearing a tabletop is "Clearing the huge double"


If you think the current generation invented the "entitled era" then I've got news for you...
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mattyhamz2 4/29/2019 11:30am
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theycallmeebryan wrote:
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad..... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/04/29/342735/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
I drew this highly detailed diagram to illustrate my position on triple vs quad.....

I agree with this.
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