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kdubsteezey 4/21/2019 11:33pm
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I got the front caliper cleaned up!

Before:




After:





Shaved the face of the caliper and took the "Nissin" logo off. I like how it turned out. I'm torn on getting the proper supplies and polishing it or hitting it with scotch bright and having it be a brushed finished. Probably the brushed... but for now its staying like this.
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H4L 4/22/2019 7:32am
4/22/2019 7:32am Edited Date/Time 4/22/2019 9:12pm
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The 02-03 engine won't loose any top end power by using the 05-07 oem base gasket with the right MJ. I have yet to ride a...
The 02-03 engine won't loose any top end power by using the 05-07 oem base gasket with the right MJ.
I have yet to ride a 250 2t that has the topend the 02-03 CR2 have. The 93-96 models had good topend power & are probably the closest, but not close after cyl. / head mods are done to the 02-03.
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Ok that sounds like it'll be a good step towards what I'm looking for. When you ran this set up where you running the Stock TMX...
Ok that sounds like it'll be a good step towards what I'm looking for. When you ran this set up where you running the Stock TMX carb? or a Kein? If it where the TMX, any chance you remember what MJ you where running? or perhaps just which direction you went from stock, leaner or richer?

Thanks for all the info I really appreciate it!!
This was back in 03 or 04 & my memory could be off, but I think it was a 400 or 410 (leaner - a 420 is stock) on the oem Mikuni TMX. This was at 32:1 premix, 60-90 deg., moderate temps, relatively no humidity @ 0-1K elevation. On the air boot or reed cage I'd suggest sticking with the 03 model & not 02. Honda redesigned the airboot on the 03 to be a straighter angle & went with a one piece unit on the reed cage vs. a 2 piece. The 03 reed cage had 8 reed petals like the CR5 if I recall.
The 03 engine has the most topend after mods of the 02-07 models I've found along with the 03 ign..

Keep in mind when the PV's are closed it's suppose to help the lowend. So by leaving the PV partially open it would hurt the lowend & not help it as suggested. There is a reason why the 2t engine at idle or low rpms the PV or PV's are suppose to be fully closed in the exhaust port.

Forgot to add when PC did the 03 cyl / head back in 05 they called me about sending in the PV's afterwards to be reshaped. The PV mods were done to help with off idle / lowend response when fully closed & seated in the exhaust port.
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The 03 airboot was no better than the 02, poor design, get the 05 intake boot as that was the final design, and it really did make a big difference, vs my 03. And If you have ever held a 02 reed block and a 03 reed block in your hands at the Same time, you would throw the 03 in the garabage, the radvalve was by far, the the best option to go with though, the 03 reed block was quite choked up vs the 02 and the rad valve. But even more so, flywheel weight, adds power all over, and smooths out the powerband and makes it so much easier to ride, 8oz is a good starting point, but heavier IS better, if you want a bike that's fast in 2nd and 3rd, keep your light rotating mass, if you want a 3rd and 4th monster, weight your crank, and no matter what anyone tells you, they add top end and over revv.
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Ps, the advantage to adding weight to cr250's is due to their basic form of traction control, and it started in 98. It was deisgned to limit wheelspin by monitoring rpm climb. If your bike gets wheel spin, the cdi retards ignition timing to reduce power and aid in hook up. Add that with an overly light crank shaft weight, and you get a recipe for zingy power that gets dumbed down, flywheel weight helps this by slowing down the ability of the engine to spool
Up too quickly, thus keeping the runAway rpm down and your ignition timing advanced and makin power. One last thing, I know, rambling on here. 05-08 crf450r forks, lighter, better, and they move the front axle back 2mm giving you pretty much the same feel as 22mm triples, and it's a big help up top, as the upper part of the forks are lighter than the stock, after I did the swap, switching directions was so much easier, and turn in was aided as the bike didn't have such a floppy feel to it anymore, plus the big brake options

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H4L wrote:
The 02-03 engine won't loose any top end power by using the 05-07 oem base gasket with the right MJ. I have yet to ride a...
The 02-03 engine won't loose any top end power by using the 05-07 oem base gasket with the right MJ.
I have yet to ride a 250 2t that has the topend the 02-03 CR2 have. The 93-96 models had good topend power & are probably the closest, but not close after cyl. / head mods are done to the 02-03.
kdubsteezey wrote:
Ok that sounds like it'll be a good step towards what I'm looking for. When you ran this set up where you running the Stock TMX...
Ok that sounds like it'll be a good step towards what I'm looking for. When you ran this set up where you running the Stock TMX carb? or a Kein? If it where the TMX, any chance you remember what MJ you where running? or perhaps just which direction you went from stock, leaner or richer?

Thanks for all the info I really appreciate it!!
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This was back in 03 or 04 & my memory could be off, but I think it was a 400 or 410 (leaner - a 420...
This was back in 03 or 04 & my memory could be off, but I think it was a 400 or 410 (leaner - a 420 is stock) on the oem Mikuni TMX. This was at 32:1 premix, 60-90 deg., moderate temps, relatively no humidity @ 0-1K elevation. On the air boot or reed cage I'd suggest sticking with the 03 model & not 02. Honda redesigned the airboot on the 03 to be a straighter angle & went with a one piece unit on the reed cage vs. a 2 piece. The 03 reed cage had 8 reed petals like the CR5 if I recall.
The 03 engine has the most topend after mods of the 02-07 models I've found along with the 03 ign..

Keep in mind when the PV's are closed it's suppose to help the lowend. So by leaving the PV partially open it would hurt the lowend & not help it as suggested. There is a reason why the 2t engine at idle or low rpms the PV or PV's are suppose to be fully closed in the exhaust port.

Forgot to add when PC did the 03 cyl / head back in 05 they called me about sending in the PV's afterwards to be reshaped. The PV mods were done to help with off idle / lowend response when fully closed & seated in the exhaust port.
Not exactly, it's a good standard setting of the pv, but if it goes past the point that the engine can actually flow at, it hinders off
Idle performance greatly, done this with MANY bikes and they have always responded well. With my 12 ktm
250sx, .5mm difference in pv resting point, and I tested higher and lower resting points, and from stock setting, to .5mm higher than stock was ideal, and 1mm over stock yeilded terrible results. So yes, you can go too high of a setting, but is it the most optimum setting from the factory, I highly doubt it, it's a good usable setting make a bowl of porge good for erbody
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15tc150 wrote:
The 03 airboot was no better than the 02, poor design, get the 05 intake boot as that was the final design, and it really did...
The 03 airboot was no better than the 02, poor design, get the 05 intake boot as that was the final design, and it really did make a big difference, vs my 03. And If you have ever held a 02 reed block and a 03 reed block in your hands at the Same time, you would throw the 03 in the garabage, the radvalve was by far, the the best option to go with though, the 03 reed block was quite choked up vs the 02 and the rad valve. But even more so, flywheel weight, adds power all over, and smooths out the powerband and makes it so much easier to ride, 8oz is a good starting point, but heavier IS better, if you want a bike that's fast in 2nd and 3rd, keep your light rotating mass, if you want a 3rd and 4th monster, weight your crank, and no matter what anyone tells you, they add top end and over revv.
15tc150 - Just trying to steer the OP in the right direction. I do agree the 05-07 airboot would be a better option, but he would more than likely need to run the shorter version TMX or PWK carb. Due to the air boot being shorter to accommodate the newer 04-07 mikuni with TPS.
I remember holding both airboots in my hand & recall the 02 having an angle in comparison to the 03 being a straighter design.
As you probably already know the 02 was the 1st yr. for the 3rd gen AF CR2 & Honda made big changes to the chassis & engine along with the RC PV's.. In 03 Honda made some refinements that were much better IMHO that helped the engine more specifically.

https://www.adventuresportsnetwork.com/sport/moto/first-impression-2003…
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kdubsteezey 4/22/2019 11:25pm
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H4L wrote:
This was back in 03 or 04 & my memory could be off, but I think it was a 400 or 410 (leaner - a 420...
This was back in 03 or 04 & my memory could be off, but I think it was a 400 or 410 (leaner - a 420 is stock) on the oem Mikuni TMX. This was at 32:1 premix, 60-90 deg., moderate temps, relatively no humidity @ 0-1K elevation. On the air boot or reed cage I'd suggest sticking with the 03 model & not 02. Honda redesigned the airboot on the 03 to be a straighter angle & went with a one piece unit on the reed cage vs. a 2 piece. The 03 reed cage had 8 reed petals like the CR5 if I recall.
The 03 engine has the most topend after mods of the 02-07 models I've found along with the 03 ign..

Keep in mind when the PV's are closed it's suppose to help the lowend. So by leaving the PV partially open it would hurt the lowend & not help it as suggested. There is a reason why the 2t engine at idle or low rpms the PV or PV's are suppose to be fully closed in the exhaust port.

Forgot to add when PC did the 03 cyl / head back in 05 they called me about sending in the PV's afterwards to be reshaped. The PV mods were done to help with off idle / lowend response when fully closed & seated in the exhaust port.
No worries, Thats a good guideline to use when coming up with my own settings when I do the 05-07 base gasket, it is appreciated. My climate is pretty similar in the summer except probably a little bit more humid, so that should work great! probably start with a 400 and go from there.
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kdubsteezey wrote:
Even though it's completely pre-mature... I think I finished up the graphics design I'm going to go with. I couldn't resist working on them while I'm...
Even though it's completely pre-mature... I think I finished up the graphics design I'm going to go with. I couldn't resist working on them while I'm waiting for parts to show up and my next paycheck haha! Thoughts??




im not sure on the graphics i'd need to see a mock up. it looks kind of jurassic to me?

Bleed Black Die Evil, sickest fucking bikes out there.
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soggy wrote:
im not sure on the graphics i'd need to see a mock up. it looks kind of jurassic to me? Bleed Black Die Evil, sickest fucking...
im not sure on the graphics i'd need to see a mock up. it looks kind of jurassic to me?

Bleed Black Die Evil, sickest fucking bikes out there.
Here are my photo-chop skills at full capacity.. haha I'm much better in illustrator.... I like the way they turned out. They kinda have the feel of the late 90s bikes with a modern-ish twist. I know they're not era correct, but I just wanted something unique that was my own.

I wondered if anyone would know what Evil was! haha Heck yeah man they shred ? I have a fleet of them in the garage.

Here was my inspiration:





I always really enjoyed this look, probably just because as a little kid, I watched Ezra in Terrafirma 3 & 4 about 10,000 times until the VHS wore out haha.. Although I never cared much for the 1st gen Alu frame and plastics from an aesthetics point... but the colors and graphics I really dug for some reason.

Heres my mock up:

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The 03 airboot was no better than the 02, poor design, get the 05 intake boot as that was the final design, and it really did...
The 03 airboot was no better than the 02, poor design, get the 05 intake boot as that was the final design, and it really did make a big difference, vs my 03. And If you have ever held a 02 reed block and a 03 reed block in your hands at the Same time, you would throw the 03 in the garabage, the radvalve was by far, the the best option to go with though, the 03 reed block was quite choked up vs the 02 and the rad valve. But even more so, flywheel weight, adds power all over, and smooths out the powerband and makes it so much easier to ride, 8oz is a good starting point, but heavier IS better, if you want a bike that's fast in 2nd and 3rd, keep your light rotating mass, if you want a 3rd and 4th monster, weight your crank, and no matter what anyone tells you, they add top end and over revv.
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15tc150 - Just trying to steer the OP in the right direction. I do agree the 05-07 airboot would be a better option, but he would...
15tc150 - Just trying to steer the OP in the right direction. I do agree the 05-07 airboot would be a better option, but he would more than likely need to run the shorter version TMX or PWK carb. Due to the air boot being shorter to accommodate the newer 04-07 mikuni with TPS.
I remember holding both airboots in my hand & recall the 02 having an angle in comparison to the 03 being a straighter design.
As you probably already know the 02 was the 1st yr. for the 3rd gen AF CR2 & Honda made big changes to the chassis & engine along with the RC PV's.. In 03 Honda made some refinements that were much better IMHO that helped the engine more specifically.

https://www.adventuresportsnetwork.com/sport/moto/first-impression-2003…
I agree with you, just trying to help out and give someone some insight as Iv owned 3of this gen, and loved all of them, my 03 was the most modified, but the 05 was hand over fist faster, the new cylinder design was greatly improved, over the 02-04 castings. The review though has left me baffled, the only one of thee years I felt had any top end for a 250 2 stroke was the 02, the 03/05/06's all felt the same kinda power delivery flat top ends, shot shift and use the mid bikes, and every other review Iv read has been more cohesive with what Iv felt from mine, even the disconnected feel of the throttle and rear wheel with the stock 03 pipe, it was twist, wait a sec then braaap, both pc, and fmf exhausts negated this issue, and made the bike accelerate like normal, no hesitation at the throttle. Any exhaust you get for this bike will make next to no difference in power delivery, fmf feels like peppy stock, and pc feels like peppy stock with a teeeeeeeny bit of top end added, biggest issue with this bike was overly light rotating mass. But erbody wants that zingy feel that's deceptively slow, 4 strokes feel pathetic when you ride them, lazy lethargic acceleration, but lots of rotating mass to keep that rear wheel pulling past a 2 stroke after it's reached it's inertial peak 2 gears ago.
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soggy wrote:
im not sure on the graphics i'd need to see a mock up. it looks kind of jurassic to me? Bleed Black Die Evil, sickest fucking...
im not sure on the graphics i'd need to see a mock up. it looks kind of jurassic to me?

Bleed Black Die Evil, sickest fucking bikes out there.
kdubsteezey wrote:
Here are my photo-chop skills at full capacity.. haha I'm much better in illustrator.... I like the way they turned out. They kinda have the feel...
Here are my photo-chop skills at full capacity.. haha I'm much better in illustrator.... I like the way they turned out. They kinda have the feel of the late 90s bikes with a modern-ish twist. I know they're not era correct, but I just wanted something unique that was my own.

I wondered if anyone would know what Evil was! haha Heck yeah man they shred ? I have a fleet of them in the garage.

Here was my inspiration:





I always really enjoyed this look, probably just because as a little kid, I watched Ezra in Terrafirma 3 & 4 about 10,000 times until the VHS wore out haha.. Although I never cared much for the 1st gen Alu frame and plastics from an aesthetics point... but the colors and graphics I really dug for some reason.

Heres my mock up:

Bru that looks rad, suuuuper clean
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I agree with you, just trying to help out and give someone some insight as Iv owned 3of this gen, and loved all of them, my...
I agree with you, just trying to help out and give someone some insight as Iv owned 3of this gen, and loved all of them, my 03 was the most modified, but the 05 was hand over fist faster, the new cylinder design was greatly improved, over the 02-04 castings. The review though has left me baffled, the only one of thee years I felt had any top end for a 250 2 stroke was the 02, the 03/05/06's all felt the same kinda power delivery flat top ends, shot shift and use the mid bikes, and every other review Iv read has been more cohesive with what Iv felt from mine, even the disconnected feel of the throttle and rear wheel with the stock 03 pipe, it was twist, wait a sec then braaap, both pc, and fmf exhausts negated this issue, and made the bike accelerate like normal, no hesitation at the throttle. Any exhaust you get for this bike will make next to no difference in power delivery, fmf feels like peppy stock, and pc feels like peppy stock with a teeeeeeeny bit of top end added, biggest issue with this bike was overly light rotating mass. But erbody wants that zingy feel that's deceptively slow, 4 strokes feel pathetic when you ride them, lazy lethargic acceleration, but lots of rotating mass to keep that rear wheel pulling past a 2 stroke after it's reached it's inertial peak 2 gears ago.
Have owned 8 of the 3rd gen AF CR2's & think I'm somewhat well versed with the 02-07 models. I can say mods for mods I prefer the 03 over the 07 currently own. Have talked to a few very good reputable tuners (PC, TMR, Terry Varner, Chad Watts & Lamsons dad) through the yrs. dating back to when these bikes 1st came out & have learned about some good mods along the way. Along with trial & error..
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Wouldn't be learning if we didnt make mistakes and try new things out of the comfort zones Smile Dirt bikes are so Adjustable, if you don't like the way it does something play with it, and if you don't understand it, reasearch it. I will say aboot my 05 being faster, it was one of nick wey's 05 supercross practice bikes, got of off some guy who had no clue what he had. I never opened it up, but it was strangely faster than even my case matched 03, maybe it was ported, and tuned nicely by his mechanic, but I had no clue, and it only ran good on Honda hp2 mix, anything else and it gurgled and farted. I'll go through my old phones and try and find some pics, the 03 was themed after Ricky's 02,
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soggy 4/23/2019 5:29pm
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im not sure on the graphics i'd need to see a mock up. it looks kind of jurassic to me? Bleed Black Die Evil, sickest fucking...
im not sure on the graphics i'd need to see a mock up. it looks kind of jurassic to me?

Bleed Black Die Evil, sickest fucking bikes out there.
kdubsteezey wrote:
Here are my photo-chop skills at full capacity.. haha I'm much better in illustrator.... I like the way they turned out. They kinda have the feel...
Here are my photo-chop skills at full capacity.. haha I'm much better in illustrator.... I like the way they turned out. They kinda have the feel of the late 90s bikes with a modern-ish twist. I know they're not era correct, but I just wanted something unique that was my own.

I wondered if anyone would know what Evil was! haha Heck yeah man they shred ? I have a fleet of them in the garage.

Here was my inspiration:





I always really enjoyed this look, probably just because as a little kid, I watched Ezra in Terrafirma 3 & 4 about 10,000 times until the VHS wore out haha.. Although I never cared much for the 1st gen Alu frame and plastics from an aesthetics point... but the colors and graphics I really dug for some reason.

Heres my mock up:

looks good in the mock up..

I've only ridden the insurgent and their very first 26" trail bike, but i can't remember the name. Never felt rear suspension that follows the ground better then their design.

founder of the company is a rad guy too, have gotten a few chances to bullshit with him.
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Love the bike man. But for me, and this is just me, the dead stock 2003 CR250 Graphics are one of the nicest looking stock graphics ever. I'd say up there with the 04 YZ250 and 97 CR250.
They look so pretty, I'd try to make it look like she just rolled out of the showroom like a timewarp. Great work so far!
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Love the bike man. But for me, and this is just me, the dead stock 2003 CR250 Graphics are one of the nicest looking stock graphics...
Love the bike man. But for me, and this is just me, the dead stock 2003 CR250 Graphics are one of the nicest looking stock graphics ever. I'd say up there with the 04 YZ250 and 97 CR250.
They look so pretty, I'd try to make it look like she just rolled out of the showroom like a timewarp. Great work so far!
You sir, have class
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looks good in the mock up.. I've only ridden the insurgent and their very first 26" trail bike, but i can't remember the name. Never felt...
looks good in the mock up..

I've only ridden the insurgent and their very first 26" trail bike, but i can't remember the name. Never felt rear suspension that follows the ground better then their design.

founder of the company is a rad guy too, have gotten a few chances to bullshit with him.
Thanks man!

Ohh so you rode The Uprising! My buddy had one of those back in the day, super fun bike!! I did a couple laps on it haha. I haven't spent much time on their Insurgent. I had a Following V1, a couple Wreckonings (still have one its my Mini DH bike) and now I have The Offering as my trail bike. They are great bikes, I love the way they handle, the rear suspension is unlike anything I've ever ridden. Very responsive to pop and jumping off things yet very composed in the rough. Wished I was on them when I raced DH!!

Yep! Kevin is a rad dude haha.

My old Following V1



My Wreckoning DH (Left) and Offering (Right)



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kdubsteezey 4/24/2019 11:52am
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Love the bike man. But for me, and this is just me, the dead stock 2003 CR250 Graphics are one of the nicest looking stock graphics...
Love the bike man. But for me, and this is just me, the dead stock 2003 CR250 Graphics are one of the nicest looking stock graphics ever. I'd say up there with the 04 YZ250 and 97 CR250.
They look so pretty, I'd try to make it look like she just rolled out of the showroom like a timewarp. Great work so far!
Thanks man!

I totally hear you, and I really considered it! but few things kept me from going full OEM...

I'm planning on riding/racing this bike around 2 times a week all year round. So I wanted to create something competitive and fun!

This is the first time I have ever went full tilt and built a bike with no hold on what I will spend, sorta... haha so I want to do all the trick things I have always wanted to do but never let myself haha.

And as far as the graphics go I'm actually trying to get into a career doing graphic design/ID so what better way to advertise my skills than on my bike haha!

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Back to dirt bikes and the build!

I fabricated this mount up with a little help from my dad to hold the electronics, I think it turned out rad. way better than I expected!





You can rotate the carb either way to make needle/jetting adjustments and nothing gets in the way and it looks very sleek. Mission Accomplished.

I also ordered up a Rims Plus wheel set that should be here within the next week or so... Billet bronze hubs laced to black Excel Takasago rims. I prefer these over the A60's. I like a little flex in my bike, reduced harshness and fatigue. Equalling faster lap times for longer.
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kdubsteezey wrote:
Back to dirt bikes and the build! I fabricated this mount up with a little help from my dad to hold the electronics, I think it...
Back to dirt bikes and the build!

I fabricated this mount up with a little help from my dad to hold the electronics, I think it turned out rad. way better than I expected!





You can rotate the carb either way to make needle/jetting adjustments and nothing gets in the way and it looks very sleek. Mission Accomplished.

I also ordered up a Rims Plus wheel set that should be here within the next week or so... Billet bronze hubs laced to black Excel Takasago rims. I prefer these over the A60's. I like a little flex in my bike, reduced harshness and fatigue. Equalling faster lap times for longer.
Funny you say you notice, the flex on th A60's that's also what I felt with my DID's, it felt like rolling on themX the ground was just plusher and I had takasgo rim set for the same bike and felt the difference back to back swapping them around same ride day
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Very cool mount/ bracket! Does the pipe clear it all well?
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15tc150 wrote:
Funny you say you notice, the flex on th A60's that's also what I felt with my DID's, it felt like rolling on themX the ground...
Funny you say you notice, the flex on th A60's that's also what I felt with my DID's, it felt like rolling on themX the ground was just plusher and I had takasgo rim set for the same bike and felt the difference back to back swapping them around same ride day
Did you think the Takasago or DID's were stiffer? I haven't had any experience with the DID's.
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kdubsteezey 4/24/2019 10:04pm
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Wolfey wrote:
Very cool mount/ bracket! Does the pipe clear it all well?
Thanks man!

I mounted up the old stocker pipe and it clears good. The closest it got was like 12mm/half an inch or so.
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15tc150 4/25/2019 7:42am
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15tc150 wrote:
Funny you say you notice, the flex on th A60's that's also what I felt with my DID's, it felt like rolling on themX the ground...
Funny you say you notice, the flex on th A60's that's also what I felt with my DID's, it felt like rolling on themX the ground was just plusher and I had takasgo rim set for the same bike and felt the difference back to back swapping them around same ride day
kdubsteezey wrote:
Did you think the Takasago or DID's were stiffer? I haven't had any experience with the DID's.
I have used excel al4's Iv used a60's used did's STX, and the did's felt more plush for whatever reason, but that's only in a heads up comparison to the al4's, and I know what a60's are all aboot, but did get any change to compare between anything, cuz it was a60's and stock for my 2012 250sx, but I did like the a60's a lot, but to compare them to the stock rims I had for the 250sx, it isn't much of one, as the stock "excels" back in that day weren't even as good as the basic al4, they may have had the label, but ktm didn't start using al4's till 2016, if I had the choice, I'd go back to did's but I just picked up a set of rims off my friend that I gave him as partial trade for a 2015 yz250 bought off him. Now they are back, and I'm happy, blue al4's hd stainless spokes matched up to light oem ktm hubs, light and strong Smile . But you just like me, had probably ZERO issues with the a60's in the past, they are really good and hard to beat! Bru, this things lookin ckean! Love it, I'll add you to my friends list, and once I get my 05 crf450r 2 stroke engine swap on the go, I'll get it up here for you to see, and I'll try and get a few pics of my 03 cr250 as well, keep up the amazing work!!
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kdubsteezey 4/26/2019 10:52am
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15tc150 wrote:
Funny you say you notice, the flex on th A60's that's also what I felt with my DID's, it felt like rolling on themX the ground...
Funny you say you notice, the flex on th A60's that's also what I felt with my DID's, it felt like rolling on themX the ground was just plusher and I had takasgo rim set for the same bike and felt the difference back to back swapping them around same ride day
kdubsteezey wrote:
Did you think the Takasago or DID's were stiffer? I haven't had any experience with the DID's.
15tc150 wrote:
I have used excel al4's Iv used a60's used did's STX, and the did's felt more plush for whatever reason, but that's only in a heads...
I have used excel al4's Iv used a60's used did's STX, and the did's felt more plush for whatever reason, but that's only in a heads up comparison to the al4's, and I know what a60's are all aboot, but did get any change to compare between anything, cuz it was a60's and stock for my 2012 250sx, but I did like the a60's a lot, but to compare them to the stock rims I had for the 250sx, it isn't much of one, as the stock "excels" back in that day weren't even as good as the basic al4, they may have had the label, but ktm didn't start using al4's till 2016, if I had the choice, I'd go back to did's but I just picked up a set of rims off my friend that I gave him as partial trade for a 2015 yz250 bought off him. Now they are back, and I'm happy, blue al4's hd stainless spokes matched up to light oem ktm hubs, light and strong Smile . But you just like me, had probably ZERO issues with the a60's in the past, they are really good and hard to beat! Bru, this things lookin ckean! Love it, I'll add you to my friends list, and once I get my 05 crf450r 2 stroke engine swap on the go, I'll get it up here for you to see, and I'll try and get a few pics of my 03 cr250 as well, keep up the amazing work!!
Right on, Interesting to hear that. Yeah I seem to have good luck with the Excel Al4s in the past, seem to have a good feel/durability ratio so I went with them. I was a bit hesitant to try the DID's because of the amount of $$ spent I would be bummed if I wasn't stoked on them or if they failed. But maybe I'll have to try a set next time!!

Heck yeah I'd love to see your 03 and 05! post em up!!
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kdubsteezey 4/26/2019 12:01pm
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Dont mind the dumb writing on the pics... I forgot to save them to my camera roll before posting them on IG... But I started working on the Rear brake. Got the Cast marks off the lever, got the cap shaved and cleaned the master cylinder. I also got the rear axle/nut/blocks done.






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kdubsteezey 4/29/2019 5:35pm
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Alright got a little more done...

Took the casting roughness off the upper clamp to make it match the lower.




Then these showed up in the mail!!







Very stoked! More to come soon.... Hopefully!
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kdubsteezey 5/4/2019 8:11am
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Little update for you guys!








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15tc150 5/11/2019 9:05am
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It happened, I joined the dark side, after only owning 2 strokes, I made the plunge, at least it still has a carb :/ not bad for 2000 northern pesos

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