Should I race Lorettas or Supercross futures?

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agn5009 2/22/2019 10:09am
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c class lap times at lorettas are same as A class at lorettas, so if your not riding A class laptimes locally you might not make...
c class lap times at lorettas are same as A class at lorettas, so if your not riding A class laptimes locally you might not make the cut. Also one bike doesnt get you to lorettas, 4 bikes does, one to practice on pre area qualifyer, one freshie for area qualifyers, one freshie for regionals and one freshie for lorettas. I know people that did that for c class. and they are always gonna do it.
That’s BS. I raced A class loacally and some guys I knew who took top 5 in C class weren’t close in speed.
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4csHATER 2/22/2019 10:15am
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That’s BS. I raced A class loacally and some guys I knew who took top 5 in C class weren’t close in speed.
okay.
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bdilly racing wrote:
Hey all! New to the forum. I am 22, mid to upper range C rider and have been racing on and off my whole life. I...
Hey all! New to the forum. I am 22, mid to upper range C rider and have been racing on and off my whole life. I am currently working out and am getting ready to buy a new bike to train for lorettas in 2020 (450C). This is a great opportunity to compete since I have never been before and its a dream of mine. Until I saw supercross futures. I am stuck between building a 10 acre mx track going to possibly 3 or 4 southwest LLAQ to try to qualify for 450C regionals, or build a sx track and go to most if not all supercross futures events. What do yall think?
id do the SX futures events. Unless you've been riding and are fast enough to sandbag the C class you wont make it. Nothing against you just kids who are really B class speed stay down to get titles
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4csHATER 2/22/2019 10:26am
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okay.
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TeamGreen wrote:
Go for both. That get’s you more racing and with your attitude you’ll probably make it to LL’s and make some epic summer memories. Go Race...
Go for both. That get’s you more racing and with your attitude you’ll probably make it to LL’s and make some epic summer memories.

Go Race!

Good Luck
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Thanks dude!
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Great advice
I agree! It's your money, your youth, your choice.... I say do both if you can swing it. As far as Lorettas C class speed goes, yes they are way quicker than what you will see at home, as they should be because they are the best in the country. If you try to make it and don't, take what you learned and try again next year. Hell, if you do make it, and show up at Lorettas only to get your ass handed to you, so what? Go back next year! Getting to TN is quite an accomplishment first time trying, so you'll never know unless you try. Regardless, it's one hell of a vacation, and if you're shooting for 2020, take a few days to spectate this year if you can....... Shitloads to learn about the ranch you'll only know by being there! Have fun, be safe, look some of us up this year if you come down to TN, be happy to show you around.
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bdilly racing 2/22/2019 11:22am
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Well I would hate to wake up in 10 years and think,"man I wish i would have at least tried." Im going to go for it next year and possibly hit up one of the supercrosses. I live in El Paso so my mx track will be nothing but sand. Lots of practice in sand will help alot. Im not a noob in motocross. Ive been riding for 18 years now. My riding level is just not up since I havent trained in years. Mostly just hitting up local tracks when I lived in STL. Im ready to put in 110 percent. Already have been with physical fitness level. I will be doing everything in my power and resources to grow in the sport wether its studying others riding habits, choosing lines, setting up a bike, physical fitness, motivation, and confidence. I will be qualifying in the southwest region. Im pumped. Every race will be different in terms of opponents, their speed, and track conditions. Wont know unless I try my best. Itll all be worth it in the end.
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[i]"i wish i had the chance to do it all over again.!"[/i] What's stopping you? Don't have 4 bikes in order to make it to Loretta's...
"i wish i had the chance to do it all over again.!"

What's stopping you? Don't have 4 bikes in order to make it to Loretta's? ?
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Just being a realist maverick, these extremely wealthy people have made it this way, it used to not be like this, I remeber at an area...
Just being a realist maverick, these extremely wealthy people have made it this way, it used to not be like this, I remeber at an area qualifyer a kid named Bhodi parsons or something like that had 6 hondas sitting under his rig, i went over and asked him what class do you race and when he came back with 250c/450c i about shat right there on the spot, dont think im exagerating this 22yr old will see immediately as soon as he goes to the areas or reigonals.
I get what you're saying. Sure, there's a lot of kids going to Loretta's with 100k+ setups and multiple bikes but that's not a requirement.

Several years ago a kid from my area made it to Loretta's in one of the 80cc class with one bike. He doesn't come from a wealthy family. Him and his dad drove some 14-15 hours to get there in a van and slept in a tent the entire week.

I can't remember where he finished at Loretta's but the sacrifices they made paid off in the end as he's now making a living riding for one of the teams up here in Canada.
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You have the right attitude! Race anything and everything you want and have the means to race! Don't let anyone tell you that you won't qualify for LL's! You're putting in the work and have plans to do more, so go for it on both! Good luck, I'm sure you'll have a very enjoyable racing season!
mxracerjohn250 2/22/2019 12:26pm
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4 bikes are an exaggeration. I know many a guys with one bike that go in C, B and A class. Sure some guys park multiple bikes under the tent, but guesswhat, you only need 1.

Not to burst your bubble, but you would be in the 1% if you have not been racing, and think 1 year of training is going to get you ready for the C class at lorettas. These kids are hauling.
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Well I would hate to wake up in 10 years and think,"man I wish i would have at least tried." Im going to go for it...
Well I would hate to wake up in 10 years and think,"man I wish i would have at least tried." Im going to go for it next year and possibly hit up one of the supercrosses. I live in El Paso so my mx track will be nothing but sand. Lots of practice in sand will help alot. Im not a noob in motocross. Ive been riding for 18 years now. My riding level is just not up since I havent trained in years. Mostly just hitting up local tracks when I lived in STL. Im ready to put in 110 percent. Already have been with physical fitness level. I will be doing everything in my power and resources to grow in the sport wether its studying others riding habits, choosing lines, setting up a bike, physical fitness, motivation, and confidence. I will be qualifying in the southwest region. Im pumped. Every race will be different in terms of opponents, their speed, and track conditions. Wont know unless I try my best. Itll all be worth it in the end.
What age did you start riding and why?

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brody 2/22/2019 4:33pm
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What age did you start riding and why?

want to know how big his dick is too?
why are you hating on his dreams and where he wants to go, at least this guy isn't as a washed up dick as you

every post form you is you are not good enough. Daddy problems?
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bdilly racing 2/22/2019 4:40pm
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Started riding when I was 4. Started on a fourwheeler, moved to xr50, kx65, yz85, kx100, rm125, rm250, then for the past 5 years ive been riding an 08 cr250f. It wasnt until I got on the cr250f that I started seeing drastic improvements with my riding style and skills. I started riding because my dad did. It bacame a family thing to race on weekends and have fun riding. But as soon as i hit highschool, i was the only one riding in the family while my dad sat in a flaggers booth. It was no longer what it used to be. I stuck to mostly just scheduled practices and a racer here and there. I always enjoyed riding mx tracks but it was no longer fun because I had noone to ride with, talk to back at the trailer, and no friends. My last official race was in 2015 at a county fair which I did pretty good. Since then its been nothing but practicing on a track. I talked to someone the other day about why I as a 22 year old am not in at least the B class and it is because I was never raised to train, or shown how to train in motocross. My dad although very supportive was never sitting me down to give me pointers or tips. It was always just do your best. This is the first time that I have intentionally decided that I am going to go for it. Ive never had a personal track to train on. Ive never had exersize equipment, and or enough vacation time to be able to take weeks off if needed to race. Not to mention the funds! I am super excited and havent been this motivated before.
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bdilly racing wrote:
Well I would hate to wake up in 10 years and think,"man I wish i would have at least tried." Im going to go for it...
Well I would hate to wake up in 10 years and think,"man I wish i would have at least tried." Im going to go for it next year and possibly hit up one of the supercrosses. I live in El Paso so my mx track will be nothing but sand. Lots of practice in sand will help alot. Im not a noob in motocross. Ive been riding for 18 years now. My riding level is just not up since I havent trained in years. Mostly just hitting up local tracks when I lived in STL. Im ready to put in 110 percent. Already have been with physical fitness level. I will be doing everything in my power and resources to grow in the sport wether its studying others riding habits, choosing lines, setting up a bike, physical fitness, motivation, and confidence. I will be qualifying in the southwest region. Im pumped. Every race will be different in terms of opponents, their speed, and track conditions. Wont know unless I try my best. Itll all be worth it in the end.
You can do whatever you put your mind to, it just takes alot of funding to afford the oppurtunity in this sport, you should be able to do it. Just dont make the same mistake i did. I Sacrificed the wrong things for this passion. Everyday it gets to me. I wish i could go back and change things now. But life is tough and we all make decisions that we have to live with, just ride your dirtbike man, dont get caught up in the bull crap pf this sport, the media makes it look like its a cake walk and its very worth it. We all started riding because we saw a motorcycle and thought it would be fun, just have fun live your life and most importantly make the right choices through your path.
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4csHATER 2/22/2019 4:45pm
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brody wrote:
want to know how big his dick is too? why are you hating on his dreams and where he wants to go, at least this guy...
want to know how big his dick is too?
why are you hating on his dreams and where he wants to go, at least this guy isn't as a washed up dick as you

every post form you is you are not good enough. Daddy problems?
what? are you kidding me, dude what is with you guys? Only thing i was saying is i got caught up in all of this madness and now i just know what was important the whole time. And thats just the love for riding.
devindavisphoto 2/22/2019 4:49pm
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Coming from experience I'd say save your money and pursue an education. Ride for fun, don't worry about dumping money into Loretta's.


If SX Futures is nearby, do it for fun, but don't travel long distances to race them. Does anyone really care who won SX Futures in 250 C? Factory Team Green rides aren't going to be handed out from a win over Joe Motocross at the Detroit SX Futures main in 250 C (sorry to all the C riders out there).
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brody 2/22/2019 4:52pm
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what? are you kidding me, dude what is with you guys? Only thing i was saying is i got caught up in all of this madness...
what? are you kidding me, dude what is with you guys? Only thing i was saying is i got caught up in all of this madness and now i just know what was important the whole time. And thats just the love for riding.
well after the guy askes for help and you are like na your suck your slow, i mean you got your self into this by being a dick.
bdilly racing 2/22/2019 4:54pm
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Alright yall. Stop the stupid comments. I understand the odds are against me. I myself am a realist. I understand the probability of success in this sport is small and I most likely will not succeed. But the reward is too great to not try. Besides, whats the fun in accomplishing something easy?
bdilly racing 2/22/2019 4:56pm
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Yall got any pointers on constructing a solid mx practice track? Il have 10 acres to work with probably in April. Nothing but sand sadly.

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LL! You don’t need to be rich to make it, it just helps. I made it in C class when I was 19 working a crappy part-time minimum wage job. Slept in my truck for the area/ regionals and raced a roached out yz250 w/ electrical tape numbers. Getting my admit one ticket was one of the best feelings of my life. Much more rewarding feeling than an afternoon at supercross futures
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bdilly racing 2/22/2019 5:05pm
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Coming from experience I'd say save your money and pursue an education. Ride for fun, don't worry about dumping money into Loretta's. If SX Futures is...
Coming from experience I'd say save your money and pursue an education. Ride for fun, don't worry about dumping money into Loretta's.


If SX Futures is nearby, do it for fun, but don't travel long distances to race them. Does anyone really care who won SX Futures in 250 C? Factory Team Green rides aren't going to be handed out from a win over Joe Motocross at the Detroit SX Futures main in 250 C (sorry to all the C riders out there).
Lol i have a degree in diesel. I dont plan to make the C class a career. My goal is to move to B and progress.
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Tarz483 2/22/2019 5:08pm
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The Sand Bagging has been going on For quite a while, i Remember all the way back in 1991 kid in the 125 C class locally basically won every Race he entered
He would have a Half track lead and on the Last lap
He would pull off to the Side of the track and purposely finish last, he did that 8 to 10 times , and i didn't know why at the time and i asked , and people said He is going to Loretta Lynns and wants to race C not B..
So i dont know what if anything can be done but i would say
Its It's something that the powers that be in the sport
Need to think about.
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Tarz483 2/22/2019 5:11pm
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LL! You don’t need to be rich to make it, it just helps. I made it in C class when I was 19 working a crappy...
LL! You don’t need to be rich to make it, it just helps. I made it in C class when I was 19 working a crappy part-time minimum wage job. Slept in my truck for the area/ regionals and raced a roached out yz250 w/ electrical tape numbers. Getting my admit one ticket was one of the best feelings of my life. Much more rewarding feeling than an afternoon at supercross futures
I Think his point is that you will be Racing against others that have all that , and you will be at a disadvantage if you dont have Fresh equipment.
Even in the C Class
And in the C class there are a lot of guys that could be B if they wanted too unfortunately.
smoothies862 2/22/2019 5:11pm
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I am shocked no pics of a guy fishing yet.
even if this post is bs I know a few guys that rode 1 bike. raced LL etc. they take some spare parts and common sense stuff.

I always thought it would be fun to get smoked by old pros lol I don't know why people cry about them.
Old2stroker08 2/22/2019 5:18pm
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do either just keep chasing the dream. do what makes you happy. either race is gonna be a hell of a memory, mid 20s and people are chirping ya. NICE VITAL. lets discourage anyone who isnt a 19year old phenom.
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Taylor415 2/22/2019 5:34pm
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Do you have the land and equipment already or “thinking about it”? If your not riding now and are saving for a bike I’d slow things down a bit.
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TeamGreen wrote:
Go for both. That get’s you more racing and with your attitude you’ll probably make it to LL’s and make some epic summer memories. Go Race...
Go for both. That get’s you more racing and with your attitude you’ll probably make it to LL’s and make some epic summer memories.

Go Race!

Good Luck
This.

If you want something, go for it.

Don't make it? Try again next and continue training/riding. Go for either.
bdilly racing 2/22/2019 5:44pm
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Do you have the land and equipment already or “thinking about it”? If your not riding now and are saving for a bike I’d slow things...
Do you have the land and equipment already or “thinking about it”? If your not riding now and are saving for a bike I’d slow things down a bit.
I will have a bike here in the next month. Its a super busy time for me so late march I will be purchasing a kx 450. I have the land. But no machinery. I am prepared to rent a skidsteer. I understand a dozer would be better but a skidsteer is cheaper.
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I will have a bike here in the next month. Its a super busy time for me so late march I will be purchasing a kx...
I will have a bike here in the next month. Its a super busy time for me so late march I will be purchasing a kx 450. I have the land. But no machinery. I am prepared to rent a skidsteer. I understand a dozer would be better but a skidsteer is cheaper.
i Have built a track and there is no way you can build a full-sized track with a skid steer, it would take a solid 3 weeks.
to build a good practice track to get ready for Loretta you'll need a mid sized wheel loader and a dozer, strip with the dozer then move dirt with the loader and build up with the dozer.

I have been in construction my whole life no way you move that many yards with a 3yrd bucket.
just trying to help, and if you rent go through sunbelt.
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agn5009 2/22/2019 5:58pm
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Coming from experience I'd say save your money and pursue an education. Ride for fun, don't worry about dumping money into Loretta's. If SX Futures is...
Coming from experience I'd say save your money and pursue an education. Ride for fun, don't worry about dumping money into Loretta's.


If SX Futures is nearby, do it for fun, but don't travel long distances to race them. Does anyone really care who won SX Futures in 250 C? Factory Team Green rides aren't going to be handed out from a win over Joe Motocross at the Detroit SX Futures main in 250 C (sorry to all the C riders out there).
How do you know what his current situation is? If he financially well off, doesn’t have an education already, trust fund, rich parents or whatever. Realistically it doesn’t matter. If he’s got the money then he’s got the money. Who cares? People spend 10 grand to go on vacation to Disney. Why can’t he spend money on going to a race if he can qualify?
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Sx is guaranteed.. at least guaranteed in the fact you'll put wheels on that very track. Loretta's is not. No offense, but if it takes you...
Sx is guaranteed.. at least guaranteed in the fact you'll put wheels on that very track.

Loretta's is not.

No offense, but if it takes you 3 or 4 area qualifiers, it's not a high probability you'll make it past the regional. Not knocking your ability, rather just an observation from being at those races.
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You nailed it. If your gonna need 4 qualifier you aren’t making it past the regionals. Not being a dick just stating it how it seems.
Well yea, but need to race the qualifiers too to gain valuable experience. Really you need to be racing regionals to get the real cut throat experience.

You can pursue an education and run qualifiers. And race regionals. You’re still gonna get a hell of a competitive racing experience at regionals even if you don’t make the show. Just race every race hard for every position even if it’s 35th! If you got the means to do it. Do it now before your life gets going with marriage, jobs, kids etc.

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