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For the 450 test, I use a couple heavier riders but 250s are built with a 150lb average weight in mind and it's mostly kids on them so I test with that in mind. I had one heavier rider unavailable for this test and Kusti dropped like 8 pounds from last year so he was much closer to our lighter group.
As for spring rates, our bikes are tested as they're purchased off the showroom floor and with what's available with the bike with how it's purchased. Stuff likes tires and spring rates are up to an OEM to hit right/with the best average in mind and if they don't nail that, then it's their problem per se.
Thanks for the awesome shootout. Quick question.
If someone were to add a vortex ignition/edu and Yoshimura system to the Honda, would it move up in the rankings and possibly contend for the win?
It sounds like the chassis and suspension is a home run and I don't mind dropping a little money to bump the bottom of the motor up.
Also, is the honda clutch pull as stiff as in years past? In previous years, it was noticeably stiffer than most the other bikes.
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If a total beginner was gonna Buy a 2019 250f planning to race 250C/Beginner Motocross, Do you think there finishing position would be better on one bike vs another ?
Example, if they Bought a 2019 Suzuki RMZ250 and finished 12 place out of 20 people ,
Would that 12th place spot be different on a Yamaha or another bike?
Or the same?
In your opinion of course.
4 hp is a lot of difference now days - but in a drag race its very little.
Heres another question
If the same type rider C class beginner was to race a 2019 250f and finish 12th out of 20 people
How old of a 250f Assuming its in good condition, could he go back to. before it would make a difference in what position he would finish
Like what year bike , would you assume he would get the exact same finish on a 2013?
2010?
2008?
2004?
Again asking specifically about 250f
I had hoped you’d say that as I’m convinced the YZ250F is the best mx bike ever produced.
It’s user friendly, powerful, tune able, bristling with tech, well built, reliable, handles and turns, great fit and finish, good looking and fairly priced.
Great overall package for all skill levels.
Reading and listening to every shoot out so far
Everyone has really good things to say about it and only
The one thing bad which is low bottom end power.
Pit Row
How about bolt ons only
And ignition and suspension done
Or , just pick an amount and tell us your formula
Kawasaki: Needs standard function forks, get rid of SFF spring, and revolve/respring rear. Go to lower bars, 110 rear tire, and quite a bit of engine work. Needs a lot more top end and a smidge more down low. So I’m going to say ignition, exhaust, and some sort of combo between a head, cams, piston or whatever that respected engine builder would recommend. The Kawi is good on low end performance and response, gear ratios are good, just needs to more spread power. Chassis is alright, comfortable but not a lot of front grip.
Suzuki: respiring and revolve more than anything. Needs a lot more top end, gear ratio from second to third is too spread...new engine mounts and probably triple clamps. The bike feels so rigid from a chassis standpoint. Probably could be assisted by a link arm or all new linkage as well. Engine...really needs a ECU, it has poor stock mapping for me. Then a load of work from whatever that engine provider recommends. 110 rear tire.
KTM: Spring forks, work on the rear shock a bit, re-gearing (add one or two teeth in the rear, stock gearing is too spread out) and remap would go a long ways. Maybe find a softer front triple clamp or bar/bar mount combo to get ride of the rigid feel up front.
Husky: same as KTM, more work towards getting it to rev quicker though, probably airbox mod. Also, needs a more comfortable seat/seat cover.
Honda: Tweak suspensions settings slightly, needs a clutch, needs a generous amount of engine work and ECU...I’d want more roll on, it needs to be able to roll through the RPM range when the conditions are soft. Feels unresponsive down low or in the mid range. Second to third gear is way too spread as well from a ratio standpoint. Could lose a lil weight...chassis is spot on. 110 rear tire.
Yamaha: Tweak suspension settings slightly, change bars/bar mounts to even out rider triangle a bit. Look for more top end power. Get rid of the Battlecross tires...
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