Best chain sprocket combo

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I dont care how light it is, I just need something that will last on my 450.
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Anything steel.
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4/9/2009 6:05am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:19pm
Get a DID or other good quality X-ring chain and throw away that nasty chain lube stuff.

A good X-ring will last an entire harescramble series easily, and that is hours & hours & hours of abuse.
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If you want pure reliability get an o-ring or x-ring chain. Use WD-40 on it to keep it from rusting. With a real good chain the sprockets don't matter. You can run aluminum on the rear. But, if you want to go with the most durable get you a steel sunstar for the front and rear.

If you don't want the weight and drag of an o-ring then the best I've used is the DID ERT2 series. They're expensive though.

Be careful if you use the o-ring/x-ring chain, some bikes ( I think Hondas ) need a spacer behind the sprocket to keep the chain from rubbing a hole in the cases.
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4/9/2009 6:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:19pm
I've always Run RK with vortex sprockets. As stated before spend the money on a good chain and keep it in check and your sprockets will last a long time.

I did use Sidewinder Sprockets once and they were awsome. But if you spend the money on the chain and take care of it you get the same resaults.

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4/9/2009 6:54am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2009 10:40am
All For a 450. The Sidewinder was a 250 2t
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As far as chains are concerned, I've had great luck with DID ERT2 gold, and I hear good things about RK.

For sprockets, I've had my best luck with Tag aluminums, but I'm not on a 450. Your best bet for reliability may be to go steel. Look into Sunstar and Sidewinder (they also have Ti sprockets which are supposed to last..including a set they say will never wear out...but they're pricey).
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As stated above the DID ERT2 chain works great. I've been using the pro taper sprockets and really like them. But if you really want them to last buy steel.
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RK MXZ3 chain and Tag sprockets. No issues with this combo.
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DID gold with ironman sprockets
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I found that the best price\durability ratio for me is running a steel sprocket (sunstar) adn a DID520ERT2 gold.

The freaking DID chain retails over $100 but moto X outlet always sells them for $55 on ebay!!!

With that deal, I always get a sprocket\chain combo that last pretty good on a 450 for under $100
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AFAM.
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WD-40 will actually strip away any existing lubricant and leave your chain dry - metal on metal. Basically, spraying this stuff on your chain is worse than using no lubricant at all!
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4/9/2009 8:44am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2009 8:46am
Basically what several other guys said. I run O/X-ring chains (don't know if one is really any better than another) and I do NOT lube my chain with chain lube. I use WD-40 after a wash followed by a light spray oil after it dries (Wal-mart sells spray oil for about $1/can). They will wear forever and very rarely even need a chain adjustment. That spray on sticky lube just collects dirt/sand/grit and eats the living crap out of your chain.
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4/9/2009 8:56am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2009 8:56am
88sdad wrote:
WD-40 will actually strip away any existing lubricant and leave your chain dry - metal on metal. Basically, spraying this stuff on your chain is worse...
WD-40 will actually strip away any existing lubricant and leave your chain dry - metal on metal. Basically, spraying this stuff on your chain is worse than using no lubricant at all!
A X-ring chaing does not rely on lube to work,, the lube is inside the roller and kept there with the x-ring. The WD-40 only keeps the surface from rusting. Ive ran entire harescramble seasons and the only thing I put on my X-ring is dry teflon spray. Bone dry. It works great with no grit, sand or dirt sticking to the chain causing the sprockets to wear prematurely.
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Void Main wrote:
Basically what several other guys said. I run O/X-ring chains (don't know if one is really any better than another) and I do NOT lube my...
Basically what several other guys said. I run O/X-ring chains (don't know if one is really any better than another) and I do NOT lube my chain with chain lube. I use WD-40 after a wash followed by a light spray oil after it dries (Wal-mart sells spray oil for about $1/can). They will wear forever and very rarely even need a chain adjustment. That spray on sticky lube just collects dirt/sand/grit and eats the living crap out of your chain.
Correct. And a gritty chain eats your sprockets like a rat-tail file going against continually.
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PRIMARY DRIVE combo kit from Rocky Mountain. Steal sprockets, and a gold x-ring chain to your door in two days for $89!! I was skeptical at first, but the chain has lasted longer than any high dollar one and the sprockets are well made. The rear won't last as long as an ironman, but they only cost $19. And two of them will last longer than one ironman.

Not many mxers have tried this brand by I swear by them. I have run two sets now and I will run nothing else ever again.
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thanx guys..good read
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88sdad wrote:
WD-40 will actually strip away any existing lubricant and leave your chain dry - metal on metal. Basically, spraying this stuff on your chain is worse...
WD-40 will actually strip away any existing lubricant and leave your chain dry - metal on metal. Basically, spraying this stuff on your chain is worse than using no lubricant at all!
Racer92 wrote:
A X-ring chaing does not rely on lube to work,, the lube is inside the roller and kept there with the x-ring. The WD-40 only keeps...
A X-ring chaing does not rely on lube to work,, the lube is inside the roller and kept there with the x-ring. The WD-40 only keeps the surface from rusting. Ive ran entire harescramble seasons and the only thing I put on my X-ring is dry teflon spray. Bone dry. It works great with no grit, sand or dirt sticking to the chain causing the sprockets to wear prematurely.
I read in an article a couple years ago in one of the dirt bike mags(I think MXA), that it works it's way into the sealed rollers. It said that, it broke down the grease to a liquid allowing it to escape. I really don't know, just what I read.
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I hear ya 88, I was only reporting my experiences so far and never had a problem.
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These guys don't have any problems either, maybe I learned something today.
I'm going to get rid of my high dollar lube, and give WD40 a try.
Cuz to tell ya the truth, we've went through a few chains and sprokets.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/...ex.php/t-619424.html
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Racer92 wrote:
I hear ya 88, I was only reporting my experiences so far and never had a problem.
I have to give the old "x2" on this.
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blankplate wrote:
I dont care how light it is, I just need something that will last on my 450.
If you have a Honda,
you are going to want to run a DID520 ERT2 like people mentioned above or an equiv. like a Renthal R1 WORKS. The Honda 450's have some clearance issues w/ X-ring chains (rubbing the cases)
I have heard DID makes a NARROW enduro X-ring (DID 520VT2) that will hold up to anything, it's new and probably the way to go if you want an X-ring

As far as sprockets, if you don't care about weight, go steel. I run Renthal rears and seem to run through them pretty quick. Just ordered a couple Pro Tapers from motosport to give them a try.
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Well...I have a bunch of silly friends that immediately remove their stock sprockets and chains when they buy new bikes, so they can put on aftermarket stuff. Either they give me the stock stuff, or I throw them $20 for them.

They think I'm a fool for running this junk stuff. No failure to report at this juncture.....
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Stay away from Sidewinder .Worst customer service in the moto industry!
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drmarkr wrote:
Well...I have a bunch of silly friends that immediately remove their stock sprockets and chains when they buy new bikes, so they can put on aftermarket...
Well...I have a bunch of silly friends that immediately remove their stock sprockets and chains when they buy new bikes, so they can put on aftermarket stuff. Either they give me the stock stuff, or I throw them $20 for them.

They think I'm a fool for running this junk stuff. No failure to report at this juncture.....
If you were local, I'd give you $25 Wink I like the stock sunstars and don't mind adjusting the stocker chains after each ride.
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I quit using DID 520's when I broke 2 new ones in a row and cracked my case on the second one. I only use RK now sever had a problem.

I broke the DID's on a worked over 01 Honda 250 2t.
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renthal twin ring last a good while
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It's not going to match a steel, but I've gotten really good wear out of Vortex rear sprockets. They have a small tapered groove machined in the saddle of each tooth. My guess is it provides an escape path for the sand and grit that normally eats away the sprocket. They do wear well...for an aluminum sprocket.
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I have had very poor luck with the Renthal chains. I like the sprockets but the chains just don't last.

Just an FYI, proper maintenance is mandatory to extend sprocket and chain life. Chains don't stretch much at all. Even though you think your chain is "stretched" it's actually wear. The pins that go through the plates wear the holes out and egg shape them. This provides slack and makes the chain look "stretched." The actual plates on the sides won't stretch much.

So to properly maintain a chain, be sure to keep it adjusted properly (I use the three fingers at the end of the chain slider method) and well lubed. If you'll lube a standard chain before every trip on the track you'll extend your chain's life very much.

As for sprockets, they aren't nearly as critical as a good, properly maintained chain. The teeth on the sprocket do get wear in the bottoms and on the driving side of the tooth, but that wear is accelerated when you allow a worn chain to run on them. The more worn the chain is the farther apart the rollers become and thus wears the sprocket prematurely. Start with a really good chain and keep it maintained and you won't much have to worry about sprockets.

Oh yeah, for those that don't get it. NEVER replace one component of your drive system. Always get both sprockets and a chain. One worn item in the bunch will wear out the others very quickly.
7/9/2012 3:02am
835 wrote:
I quit using DID 520's when I broke 2 new ones in a row and cracked my case on the second one. I only use RK...
I quit using DID 520's when I broke 2 new ones in a row and cracked my case on the second one. I only use RK now sever had a problem.

I broke the DID's on a worked over 01 Honda 250 2t.
Wat kind of RK chain r u usin? I had a DID 520 gold link professional chain but it broke causing it to bunch up in the front sprocket and broke 6 teeth off and broke 4th gear inside box so I don't want to do that again!

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