2018 Rmz450 Older Shock

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alex69 wrote:
What's wrong with the stock shock?
Dirtdemon wrote:
x2
I was just wondering what the older looking shock was on the factory bikes.
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No, 2017 KYB Factory shock body wont fit into new frame. 2018 KYB Factory shock is available next month from Technical Touch.
TeamGreen wrote:
Let's see where this goes...
Badd127 wrote:
What do you mean TeamGreen ?
I think KYB has a production body that fits and can be sold for a reasonable price...lets see if that happens...

I hope it does.
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10/31/2018 6:44am
Naanak wrote:
Asking for a buddy. On the new Suzuki I’ve seen a few bikes with the older style shock. With jgr being one is it just the...
Asking for a buddy. On the new Suzuki I’ve seen a few bikes with the older style shock. With jgr being one is it just the new akit for the 18 or can you swap an older stock shock on to the 18?
I just did a direct swap with a kx450 kyb shock. Everything went together perfect and feels amazing
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10/31/2018 6:48am
Naanak wrote:
Asking for a buddy. On the new Suzuki I’ve seen a few bikes with the older style shock. With jgr being one is it just the...
Asking for a buddy. On the new Suzuki I’ve seen a few bikes with the older style shock. With jgr being one is it just the new akit for the 18 or can you swap an older stock shock on to the 18?
I just did a direct swap with a kx450 kyb shock. Everything went together perfect and feels amazing

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10/31/2018 7:08am
Naanak wrote:
Asking for a buddy. On the new Suzuki I’ve seen a few bikes with the older style shock. With jgr being one is it just the...
Asking for a buddy. On the new Suzuki I’ve seen a few bikes with the older style shock. With jgr being one is it just the new akit for the 18 or can you swap an older stock shock on to the 18?
SUZ_291 wrote:
I just did a direct swap with a kx450 kyb shock. Everything went together perfect and feels amazing
Hows it feel compared to the original shock, I have honestly had no issues with the BFRC shock after being revalved and sprung for me, but would love to try a standard shock but obviously it would need revalved and sprung too lol so a little bit bigger of a investment if its not going to really matter to me.
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10/31/2018 7:20am
Won't the 2019 RMZ-250 KYB shock bolt up once it's available?
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Jbulz wrote:
Won't the 2019 RMZ-250 KYB shock bolt up once it's available?
Yup.
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10/31/2018 7:39am
Naanak wrote:
Asking for a buddy. On the new Suzuki I’ve seen a few bikes with the older style shock. With jgr being one is it just the...
Asking for a buddy. On the new Suzuki I’ve seen a few bikes with the older style shock. With jgr being one is it just the new akit for the 18 or can you swap an older stock shock on to the 18?
SUZ_291 wrote:
I just did a direct swap with a kx450 kyb shock. Everything went together perfect and feels amazing
Hows it feel compared to the original shock, I have honestly had no issues with the BFRC shock after being revalved and sprung for me, but...
Hows it feel compared to the original shock, I have honestly had no issues with the BFRC shock after being revalved and sprung for me, but would love to try a standard shock but obviously it would need revalved and sprung too lol so a little bit bigger of a investment if its not going to really matter to me.
It feels absolutely amazing. It works so much better with the front forks. Everything on the shock is stock. I picked it up for $45 on eBay. After I found out it would fit I turned around and bought a new take off from a 15
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10/31/2018 8:05am
SUZ_291 wrote:
I just did a direct swap with a kx450 kyb shock. Everything went together perfect and feels amazing
Hows it feel compared to the original shock, I have honestly had no issues with the BFRC shock after being revalved and sprung for me, but...
Hows it feel compared to the original shock, I have honestly had no issues with the BFRC shock after being revalved and sprung for me, but would love to try a standard shock but obviously it would need revalved and sprung too lol so a little bit bigger of a investment if its not going to really matter to me.
SUZ_291 wrote:
It feels absolutely amazing. It works so much better with the front forks. Everything on the shock is stock. I picked it up for $45 on...
It feels absolutely amazing. It works so much better with the front forks. Everything on the shock is stock. I picked it up for $45 on eBay. After I found out it would fit I turned around and bought a new take off from a 15
The KX shock bolted right up? The 2009-2015 is all the same so they should be easy to find.
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Hows it feel compared to the original shock, I have honestly had no issues with the BFRC shock after being revalved and sprung for me, but...
Hows it feel compared to the original shock, I have honestly had no issues with the BFRC shock after being revalved and sprung for me, but would love to try a standard shock but obviously it would need revalved and sprung too lol so a little bit bigger of a investment if its not going to really matter to me.
SUZ_291 wrote:
It feels absolutely amazing. It works so much better with the front forks. Everything on the shock is stock. I picked it up for $45 on...
It feels absolutely amazing. It works so much better with the front forks. Everything on the shock is stock. I picked it up for $45 on eBay. After I found out it would fit I turned around and bought a new take off from a 15
The KX shock bolted right up? The 2009-2015 is all the same so they should be easy to find.

10/31/2018 8:21am
SUZ_291 wrote:
It feels absolutely amazing. It works so much better with the front forks. Everything on the shock is stock. I picked it up for $45 on...
It feels absolutely amazing. It works so much better with the front forks. Everything on the shock is stock. I picked it up for $45 on eBay. After I found out it would fit I turned around and bought a new take off from a 15
The KX shock bolted right up? The 2009-2015 is all the same so they should be easy to find.
SUZ_291 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/10/31/299450/s1200_IMG_0082.jpg[/img]

Looks like the bottom of the res rubs against the frame a bit?
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The KX shock bolted right up? The 2009-2015 is all the same so they should be easy to find.
SUZ_291 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/10/31/299450/s1200_IMG_0082.jpg[/img]

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Looks like the bottom of the res rubs against the frame a bit?
Nope. It was like that when I got it. I have about 1mm gap. When you sit on it the shock rotates to about 4mm
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10/31/2018 8:53am
Is that shock you have on there a 2006-2008? The 2015 will be different.
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10/31/2018 9:06am
The 2015 will be Showa. A KYB shock will bolt on a 2015 though because I did it on my KX450F.
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mx317 wrote:
The 2015 will be Showa. A KYB shock will bolt on a 2015 though because I did it on my KX450F.
Well I'm just looking at the shock body. That's how I found out the one I had would work. It it doesn't work I will sale it.
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10/31/2018 10:21am
mx317 wrote:
The 2015 will be Showa. A KYB shock will bolt on a 2015 though because I did it on my KX450F.
SUZ_291 wrote:
Well I'm just looking at the shock body. That's how I found out the one I had would work. It it doesn't work I will sale...
Well I'm just looking at the shock body. That's how I found out the one I had would work. It it doesn't work I will sale it.
Yeah Showa A-Kit fits back to 06, so they all must bolt up. I believe 06-18 is interchangeable for the shock on the KXs.
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10/31/2018 11:34am Edited Date/Time 10/31/2018 11:35am
So it has to be the kyb kxf shock? what years were they on the 450/250?

Great find SUZ_291, thanks for sharing
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Rotaholic wrote:
So it has to be the kyb kxf shock? what years were they on the 450/250?

Great find SUZ_291, thanks for sharing
The one in the photo is an 06-08 shock body, which is a bit different offset than an 09 and up KX body...not sure it the newer one would fit too.
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Rotaholic wrote:
So it has to be the kyb kxf shock? what years were they on the 450/250?

Great find SUZ_291, thanks for sharing
ML512 wrote:
The one in the photo is an 06-08 shock body, which is a bit different offset than an 09 and up KX body...not sure it the...
The one in the photo is an 06-08 shock body, which is a bit different offset than an 09 and up KX body...not sure it the newer one would fit too.
Michael do you know much about the 06-08 KYB shock?

I have found one locally. Do you think this shock has potential or just persevere with the BFRC.
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I used the ktm shock body with Sdi blaster kit and PC A-kit internals.




For sale:
I also have a kx shock body that has been Kashima coated. Has not been used since having Kashima done, also they buffed the body before Kashima coated it.





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rmgsxr wrote:
No. The previous RM-Z 450 shock will not work. It is not the length or mounts, it is the reservoir that hits the frame. I do...
No. The previous RM-Z 450 shock will not work. It is not the length or mounts, it is the reservoir that hits the frame. I do know that one model of the Ohlins will fit.
HenryA wrote:
Probably this one, but it's all new.

https://www.ohlins.com/product-item/62839/
'SU 1894' is the correct part number but they are sold out, sorry!
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rmgsxr wrote:
No. The previous RM-Z 450 shock will not work. It is not the length or mounts, it is the reservoir that hits the frame. I do...
No. The previous RM-Z 450 shock will not work. It is not the length or mounts, it is the reservoir that hits the frame. I do know that one model of the Ohlins will fit.
HenryA wrote:
Probably this one, but it's all new.

https://www.ohlins.com/product-item/62839/
'SU 1894' is the correct part number but they are sold out, sorry!
Has anyone tried the earlier version ohlins? They're skinny enough that they might just fit. Wish I hadn't of sold my one so I could have tried it.
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ge217 wrote:
I used the ktm shock body with Sdi blaster kit and PC A-kit internals. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/11/01/299586/s1200_A50A96BD_1613_4000_8884_9050FAEE8F65.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/11/01/299585/s1200_2784900B_357D_4FEE_AB84_428769CB920C.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/11/01/299592/s1200_49CA29B7_7552_44E0_AEC2_E23DAFD6B3C8.jpg[/img] For sale: I also have a kx shock body...
I used the ktm shock body with Sdi blaster kit and PC A-kit internals.




For sale:
I also have a kx shock body that has been Kashima coated. Has not been used since having Kashima done, also they buffed the body before Kashima coated it.





How much are you asking for the shock body?
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11/1/2018 12:02pm
HenryA wrote:
Probably this one, but it's all new.

https://www.ohlins.com/product-item/62839/
'SU 1894' is the correct part number but they are sold out, sorry!
Rotaholic wrote:
Has anyone tried the earlier version ohlins? They're skinny enough that they might just fit. Wish I hadn't of sold my one so I could have...
Has anyone tried the earlier version ohlins? They're skinny enough that they might just fit. Wish I hadn't of sold my one so I could have tried it.
Öhlins shocks are specific to the vehicle. They are not mix & match. js
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11/1/2018 1:04pm Edited Date/Time 11/1/2018 1:05pm
'SU 1894' is the correct part number but they are sold out, sorry!
Rotaholic wrote:
Has anyone tried the earlier version ohlins? They're skinny enough that they might just fit. Wish I hadn't of sold my one so I could have...
Has anyone tried the earlier version ohlins? They're skinny enough that they might just fit. Wish I hadn't of sold my one so I could have tried it.
Öhlins shocks are specific to the vehicle. They are not mix & match. js
You sound like an ohlins dealer lol. Ohlins are just the same as any other shock with shims and flow oil, Ive owned plenty. If it fits then you can make it work.....

Plenty of SU 1894 on ebay, SU 1994 available very soon.

TTX44 is way more tunable than the Flow
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Rotaholic wrote:
Has anyone tried the earlier version ohlins? They're skinny enough that they might just fit. Wish I hadn't of sold my one so I could have...
Has anyone tried the earlier version ohlins? They're skinny enough that they might just fit. Wish I hadn't of sold my one so I could have tried it.
Öhlins shocks are specific to the vehicle. They are not mix & match. js
Rotaholic wrote:
You sound like an ohlins dealer lol. Ohlins are just the same as any other shock with shims and flow oil, Ive owned plenty. If it...
You sound like an ohlins dealer lol. Ohlins are just the same as any other shock with shims and flow oil, Ive owned plenty. If it fits then you can make it work.....

Plenty of SU 1894 on ebay, SU 1994 available very soon.

TTX44 is way more tunable than the Flow
Not an Öhlins dealer. I work for the distributor for Öhlins in the US. But you're right. Öhlins are no different than any other shock. Just as every motorcycle is the same because it has two wheels. And every car is the same because it has four wheels, etc. Everything thing in the world is the same just as you say! Whistling
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11/1/2018 2:44pm Edited Date/Time 11/1/2018 2:44pm
I've got a showa a kit shock off a kx450 bike in the bazaar for those who would be interested
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Rotaholic wrote:
So it has to be the kyb kxf shock? what years were they on the 450/250?

Great find SUZ_291, thanks for sharing
ML512 wrote:
The one in the photo is an 06-08 shock body, which is a bit different offset than an 09 and up KX body...not sure it the...
The one in the photo is an 06-08 shock body, which is a bit different offset than an 09 and up KX body...not sure it the newer one would fit too.
Rotaholic wrote:
Michael do you know much about the 06-08 KYB shock? I have found one locally. Do you think this shock has potential or just persevere with...
Michael do you know much about the 06-08 KYB shock?

I have found one locally. Do you think this shock has potential or just persevere with the BFRC.
Do NOT get a 50mm kx450 shock body 09 and up. Doesn't work. The 06-08 bolt up just fine. I just tried the newer one.
On a side note I do have a KTM shock body that will be going on next With new internals.
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ge217 wrote:
I used the ktm shock body with Sdi blaster kit and PC A-kit internals. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/11/01/299586/s1200_A50A96BD_1613_4000_8884_9050FAEE8F65.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/11/01/299585/s1200_2784900B_357D_4FEE_AB84_428769CB920C.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/11/01/299592/s1200_49CA29B7_7552_44E0_AEC2_E23DAFD6B3C8.jpg[/img] For sale: I also have a kx shock body...
I used the ktm shock body with Sdi blaster kit and PC A-kit internals.




For sale:
I also have a kx shock body that has been Kashima coated. Has not been used since having Kashima done, also they buffed the body before Kashima coated it.





Did you use a spring for a wp? Custom spring? Shim the shaft? Just trying to figure it out before I open up my wp shock
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SUZ_291 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/10/31/299450/s1200_IMG_0082.jpg[/img]

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Looks like the bottom of the res rubs against the frame a bit?
SUZ_291 wrote:
Nope. It was like that when I got it. I have about 1mm gap. When you sit on it the shock rotates to about 4mm
Is the shock length the same from the BFRC to the kx shock?

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