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11/13/2018 11:05pm
Last weekend we had a political thread that went way sideways, including a really ugly image or two. I was disgusted enough that I put nearly everyone who participated in it on lockdown. Since then, a few have reached out to me, and a few have been unlocked. Some, I'm not sure will ever get unlocked.
Some of you already know my dislike of politics in here. I've got about a zero-tolerance policy towards stuff from either side. Obviously, the current political climate is about as bad as I've ever seen and with a mid-term election imminent, I've got something lower than a zero-tolerance attitude towards posts that even allude to it. And yes, that means I often clip posts that reference anything remotely political.
My take is this...
• I can't think of any posts on here that included politics or religion that have gone well. Even if they're relatively benign, they expose biases that people attach to the specific users. Sometimes that migrates to other rooms on here.
• I feel like the purpose of the forum (even in Non-Moto) is to put the spotlight on what brings us together (which starts with a love of motorcycles and motocross), and not to highlight what divides us.
That's the short version. If you want more explanation, ask away. We might as well make it a public discussion, rather than via individual emails. If you need to get unclipped, my email is sgiberson@vitalmx.com
Some of you already know my dislike of politics in here. I've got about a zero-tolerance policy towards stuff from either side. Obviously, the current political climate is about as bad as I've ever seen and with a mid-term election imminent, I've got something lower than a zero-tolerance attitude towards posts that even allude to it. And yes, that means I often clip posts that reference anything remotely political.
My take is this...
• I can't think of any posts on here that included politics or religion that have gone well. Even if they're relatively benign, they expose biases that people attach to the specific users. Sometimes that migrates to other rooms on here.
• I feel like the purpose of the forum (even in Non-Moto) is to put the spotlight on what brings us together (which starts with a love of motorcycles and motocross), and not to highlight what divides us.
That's the short version. If you want more explanation, ask away. We might as well make it a public discussion, rather than via individual emails. If you need to get unclipped, my email is sgiberson@vitalmx.com
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It is actually kind of scary when you stop & try to think of where & how it might all end or get to. One civil war was quite enough, me thinks.
I put most of this mess on social media. So easy to hide behind keyboards.
What I do find is that in real life the world is a pretty good place. I see nothing but kindness in my day to day life and cannot recall the last time I have experienced or witnessed any hatred. I live in a pretty diverse area in So Cal, so maybe it’s different on other areas. Just got back from a trip to the Northwest and expertienced nothing but love/kindness from anyone we dealt with.
IMO the whole world could use more discussion around politics. But problem is it rarely stays civil for long - almost always instantly devolves into the typical lefty-righty ranting B.S., with each side being as bad as the other.
Kudos Gibby.
I think that speaking out does carry consequence though.
Personally, I think all social forums should require verified use of name.
People can still say what they want, but when they know a search on the Google machine will show who the REALLY are, people will clean up their act.
Just a guess, but I hope that would evoke a more moderate tone on these boards.
Pit Row
I see some people I know who I thought were reasonable people and some even friends going totally off the shelf over this stuff on Facebook, real names attached & all. Seems to be no shame involved at all, sometimes, and I just don't know what the heck they're thinking anymore.
I avoid these people now as much as I can in real life...
The only thing I'll say about it is , I'm really sorry a bunch of people lost their lives , and my thought's go out to all the families of those victim's.
Anyway when I think about getting involved I always remember two things
No one online has ever changed another persons opinion online.
Arguing on the internet is like wrestling a shit covered bear, in the end, you're covered in shit and it's still a bear
(That was a quote from someone on here and it's one of my favourites haha)
If you move to a new community and want to see its nastiest, most divisive side, from people with nothing better to do- join the local FB group. Or you can get to know people face to face like the old days, and I guarantee you it's a more pleasant experience.
Is BobPA still here? Didn’t get to see the thread but I imagine him getting excited in that one as well.
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