MX-1 Bell vs. Moto 8?

Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 2:38am
This may have already beeen discussed on here before?Im not sure, may have missed it. Anyway, whats withh Bubba wearing the $140 Bell, when there's a $400 model? the saying goes,"If you have a hundred dollar head, wear a hundred dollar helmet, if you got a 500 dollar head buy a 500 dollar helmet". So whats the deal with this $140 dollar jammy? Is it good? Protective? Lightweight? Looking to buy a new lid, hoping for a lil info.
With todays economy the way it is!! lol..the $140 lid is appealing, obviously. But i dont wana die cus i saved sum dough, ya know.

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Bell said he can wear the moto-8 if he wins the championship!
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Bubba said the MX-1 fit him better...... A $600 helmet is junk if it fits you wrong. A buddy got a Moto 8 and I was shocked how light the helmet was.
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You would think that how many times stewart has hit his head he would be wearing the moto-8 instead of the cheap one
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That may explain why he has been so out of it after a few of his crashes.

That is surprising he would wear that helmet.

Are we sure he is not wearing some kind of custom top of the line Bell ?

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neysbo wrote:
That may explain why he has been so out of it after a few of his crashes. That is surprising he would wear that helmet. Are...
That may explain why he has been so out of it after a few of his crashes.

That is surprising he would wear that helmet.

Are we sure he is not wearing some kind of custom top of the line Bell ?

I don't care what helmet you wear, if you hit your head hard enough you're going to be 'out if it'.


Where do you retards come from?
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neysbo wrote:
That may explain why he has been so out of it after a few of his crashes. That is surprising he would wear that helmet. Are...
That may explain why he has been so out of it after a few of his crashes.

That is surprising he would wear that helmet.

Are we sure he is not wearing some kind of custom top of the line Bell ?

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I don't care what helmet you wear, if you hit your head hard enough you're going to be 'out if it'. Where do you retards come...
I don't care what helmet you wear, if you hit your head hard enough you're going to be 'out if it'.


Where do you retards come from?
You can't tell me there are no differences between a cheap Bell MX-1 and a top of the line Shoei or Arai. I agree if you hit your head hard enough you ring your bell no matter what but some of his have been borderline and a good helmet may have helped more.

Just exactly what kind of helemt do you where ?
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3/27/2009 9:18am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:07pm



This is what I am wearing right now. I will be buying a Shoei VFX-W for this year.



Crashed at Monster Mountain a couple weeks ago and once yesterday. Time for a new lid.




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I thought MXA said awhile back that he is wearing a hybrid helmet that will be released later
3/27/2009 9:21am
Bubba's helmet is probably custom. It might look like the cheap Bell helmet but i bet its built just for him.
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3/27/2009 9:22am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2009 9:24am
Nice , I have always liked the Suomy but never wore one. Looks like it dids its job. I actually am looking to get that same Shoei , my dealer has one sitting on the shelf and I keep drooling over it. I have a Fox V3 now , it is ok but still made by KBC I think.

By the way how is Monster Mountain, my boys are off for Spring Break in a week and thinking of going there. I have heard it good.
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Where exactly are these Bell helmets manufactured?
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From MXA
MXA: Can you tell us a little about James' helmet?
Sean: It's a production Bell Moto 8, but he's using some prototype Moto 9 cheek pads that we're still developing. We've been testing the foam that we use on our Bell Star road helmet and the biggest difference is that it has a stiffer density. We probably won't see a Moto 9 until 2010. Chris Wood from Airtrix did the paint with a really cool chrome base layer. Right now we're also working on a James Stewart signature line of helmets. We have about ten different artists - from sub-cult to mainstream - that are working on various styles and James will choose the one he likes.
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3/27/2009 9:25am Edited Date/Time 3/27/2009 9:27am
neysbo wrote:
Nice , I have always liked the Suomy but never wore one. Looks like it dids its job. I actually am looking to get that same...
Nice , I have always liked the Suomy but never wore one. Looks like it dids its job. I actually am looking to get that same Shoei , my dealer has one sitting on the shelf and I keep drooling over it. I have a Fox V3 now , it is ok but still made by KBC I think.

By the way how is Monster Mountain, my boys are off for Spring Break in a week and thinking of going there. I have heard it good.
The Shoei fits incredibly well. I thought my Soumy was comfortable until I tried on the VFX-W. I've thought about the Fox V3 but have heard that it isn't that great. It seems KBC makes a lot of helmets.


Monster Mountain an awesome track. We rode there for the first three days of our trip, then hit some other tracks in GA and FL, and ended up coming back to Monster to finish our trip. Watered and groomed every day, natural terrain, pretty safe, and very fast. Excellent dirt, etc. I'll go back every year.
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neysbo wrote:
Nice , I have always liked the Suomy but never wore one. Looks like it dids its job. I actually am looking to get that same...
Nice , I have always liked the Suomy but never wore one. Looks like it dids its job. I actually am looking to get that same Shoei , my dealer has one sitting on the shelf and I keep drooling over it. I have a Fox V3 now , it is ok but still made by KBC I think.

By the way how is Monster Mountain, my boys are off for Spring Break in a week and thinking of going there. I have heard it good.
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The Shoei fits incredibly well. I thought my Soumy was comfortable until I tried on the VFX-W. I've thought about the Fox V3 but have heard...
The Shoei fits incredibly well. I thought my Soumy was comfortable until I tried on the VFX-W. I've thought about the Fox V3 but have heard that it isn't that great. It seems KBC makes a lot of helmets.


Monster Mountain an awesome track. We rode there for the first three days of our trip, then hit some other tracks in GA and FL, and ended up coming back to Monster to finish our trip. Watered and groomed every day, natural terrain, pretty safe, and very fast. Excellent dirt, etc. I'll go back every year.
You cannot go wrong with the Shoei, it is on my wish list right now. yeah KBC and HJC make for many companies like - Fox , Thor, Oneal etc.
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Most helmets are made in a few factories. I know KBC makes quite a few of the brands. I may be wrong but I think Shoei and Arai have their own factory. HJC, I think, makes some other brands also. That I am not sure of.
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From MXA MXA: Can you tell us a little about James' helmet? Sean: It's a production Bell Moto 8, but he's using some prototype Moto 9...
From MXA
MXA: Can you tell us a little about James' helmet?
Sean: It's a production Bell Moto 8, but he's using some prototype Moto 9 cheek pads that we're still developing. We've been testing the foam that we use on our Bell Star road helmet and the biggest difference is that it has a stiffer density. We probably won't see a Moto 9 until 2010. Chris Wood from Airtrix did the paint with a really cool chrome base layer. Right now we're also working on a James Stewart signature line of helmets. We have about ten different artists - from sub-cult to mainstream - that are working on various styles and James will choose the one he likes.
I read that too but then take a look at the most recent pictures. It is either an MX1 or a prototype Moto-9. Different grill, different shape, different vents. Looks like an MX1 to me.
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fcr wrote:
Most helmets are made in a few factories. I know KBC makes quite a few of the brands. I may be wrong but I think Shoei...
Most helmets are made in a few factories. I know KBC makes quite a few of the brands. I may be wrong but I think Shoei and Arai have their own factory. HJC, I think, makes some other brands also. That I am not sure of.
spot on FCR.

hjc makes a lot of brands, as does kbc.

shoei and arai are the only way to go.

a shitty helmet is a shitty helmet though, whether it costs $150 or $450.
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who makes the TLD lids?
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KBC.

I still wont spend $400+ on a lid. My reasoning behind it is this. A helmet is good for one shot. after that, it has done its job and needs to land in the trash. I dont know how all your bank accounts are looking, but I know I couldnt afford $400 every time I took a knock to the head (even though I only took 2 at most) so I buy mid line, snell rated helmets that I can replace for $200-$250. That way I am not trying to extend the life of a damaged helmet because I couldnt afford a new one.

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JS may have custom padding inside but it is an MX-1 with MX-1's eps. The helmet is certified SNELL, DOT and most probably ECE 2205 too anyway. Price difference is often just in the lining fabric used, the comfort paddings, not really in eps or shell, especially when it comes to the major helmet brands that are Fox, Thor, TLD, Bell, One Ind, Shoei, AGV, Arai.

Most helmets are produced in China or Indonesia (even the KBC which are just developed in Korea) and the Chinese do a great work as long as the ordering brand controls QC and manufacturing properly.

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I will only wear shoei...$500 bucks for one shot is well worth my head.

A friend of mine wrecked a few weeks ago and messed his helmet up pretty bad. He cant afford a new one and after my dad found out he was still using it, he gave him his to wear..same brand and same size. The next day he knocked him self out and shattered my dads helmet...Subdural hemmorage, but he is ok and will be riding again in six weeks. I cant help to think if he was still wearing his helmet what the out come would have been.

I had the shoei VFX-Preston and loved it, no hard hits on it but it is now over a year old. I just bought the 09 shoei and love it, its very comfortable with the leatt.
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from twmx.com. pic is from St Louis SX. i'm pretty sure he was running Moto-8's at the beginning of the season w/ the different cheek pads (as the interview above suggested) but i believe he recently switched to the other model.



"Although James Stewart has been wearing Bell Helmets low end motocross helmet for comfort reasons, that doesn't mean it should look low end. The new lid has some very cool paint details."
3/27/2009 6:45pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:07pm
Thanks for all the input guys.. I'm also pretty sure he started the year wearing a moto 8 & switched to the MX1 due to "comfort" reasons..I do not think that he has some hybrid MX1 lid thats unreleased..It looks too similar and plain..just like the MX1 in your catalog at home.

Ive been racing for over 20yrs and when i was 5yrs old till about 12 or 13 I always wore a bell. Started wearing thor helmets when they came out and have been ever since. The new thor's look shitty and i dont have a deal with them anymore..So the 140 dollar bell is looking good to me. Plus your not out too much when you take your first face plant and need a new one!
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Damn 123. Pretty good digger. Hope your alright!
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Why not this Moto 3 ? I wore mine for years

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The MX1and Moto-8 are very similar helmets in many ways. The primary difference is the ventilation of the Moto-8 is better and it's slightly lighter in weight. Both helmets are Snell and DOT certified and 100% designed, prototyped and tested in California.

No matter if it's cars, stereo equipment, or helmets, the top-of-the-line model costs a lot more than the next model down even though the performance is often very comparable. To push that last bit of technology, typically you pass the point of diminishing returns from a value-based perspective. Think of the cost difference between a Ti bolt and a steel bolt. When you demand every last drop of performance from your equipment, cost has to be of no object. But when you want to strike a balance between cost and performance, typically the second in line product offers the best value.
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The Redbull paint job he has is sick looking. definatly the best i have ever seen

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