Spring Creek MX - Race Discussion

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Hcallz5 7/21/2018 12:44pm
7/21/2018 12:44pm
Peick may have a diamond in this shorts at the end of the moto after that.
RichardLoots 7/21/2018 12:45pm
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gotta love those gatefillers racing 15 sec a lap slower Blink Blink Blink
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BSmooth13 7/21/2018 12:46pm
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These sector times are so interesting. Eli has been consistently a bit slower by a few tenths in S1 (finish to holeshot line) when everyone was going for it, but then quicker in S2. So whatever he did after the finish was abit slower to the holeshot line, but set him up to carry speed down to the tables before the rollers.

Also...why the hell are there 4 sectors, on a 2:20ish lap time, and 1 of them is 1:25+? There is a much better way of breaking up this track that could inform us on where guys are making/losing time.
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greenmx5 7/21/2018 12:47pm
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Dan-The-Man wrote:
Garmin course preview with 5 minutes left. Stupid.
you don't like previews after 25 minutes of racing? /sarcasm

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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 7/21/2018 12:50pm
7/21/2018 12:50pm
Way to get it done Tomac. But since we are bitching. What’s up with ama guy at the end of each race pointing and shit. I’m sure the top guys know where to go after they finish.
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benstone 7/21/2018 12:53pm
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BSmooth13 wrote:
These sector times are so interesting. Eli has been consistently a bit slower by a few tenths in S1 (finish to holeshot line) when everyone was...
These sector times are so interesting. Eli has been consistently a bit slower by a few tenths in S1 (finish to holeshot line) when everyone was going for it, but then quicker in S2. So whatever he did after the finish was abit slower to the holeshot line, but set him up to carry speed down to the tables before the rollers.

Also...why the hell are there 4 sectors, on a 2:20ish lap time, and 1 of them is 1:25+? There is a much better way of breaking up this track that could inform us on where guys are making/losing time.
I thought I was the only one who geeked out on those sector times! I totally agree with you about how they break them up. Always seem to be 3 short-ish sections and one really long one. Maybe they have some constraints on where they put the sensors based on the track layout, but I would think they could even it out a bit more.
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Hcallz5 7/21/2018 12:53pm
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Nicole or Carrie

Hmmmmm
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Excaliburbmx 7/21/2018 12:53pm
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Papers are part of the race. Always have always will.
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450 Moto 1:


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daemon616 7/21/2018 12:56pm
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KMC440 wrote:
How are my flowers ?
plowboy wrote:
Thanks fellers. The flowers are exploding with the recent rains. Unfortunately, I started weedeating at 6:30 this morning and immediately was covered in skeeters. East Texas...
Thanks fellers. The flowers are exploding with the recent rains. Unfortunately, I started weedeating at 6:30 this morning and immediately was covered in skeeters. East Texas kinda skeeters. Slathered on some 99% deet from my GI days and survived. Anyhow...Kenny feelin' peppy...good to hear.
I don't think anything can grow here right now. Sad


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BSmooth13 7/21/2018 12:57pm
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BSmooth13 wrote:
These sector times are so interesting. Eli has been consistently a bit slower by a few tenths in S1 (finish to holeshot line) when everyone was...
These sector times are so interesting. Eli has been consistently a bit slower by a few tenths in S1 (finish to holeshot line) when everyone was going for it, but then quicker in S2. So whatever he did after the finish was abit slower to the holeshot line, but set him up to carry speed down to the tables before the rollers.

Also...why the hell are there 4 sectors, on a 2:20ish lap time, and 1 of them is 1:25+? There is a much better way of breaking up this track that could inform us on where guys are making/losing time.
benstone wrote:
I thought I was the only one who geeked out on those sector times! I totally agree with you about how they break them up. Always...
I thought I was the only one who geeked out on those sector times! I totally agree with you about how they break them up. Always seem to be 3 short-ish sections and one really long one. Maybe they have some constraints on where they put the sensors based on the track layout, but I would think they could even it out a bit more.
It's the only way to really see where guys are gaining/losing, and how to follow pace when the broadcast isn't showing what you want to see.

And, it can tell you something interesting, I think - like that S1 vs S2 difference between ET3 and the others today. I forget what race it was, maybe Southwick? Or earlier...can't remember...anyhow, ET3 was damn near 2 seconds quicker than everyone in a 50some second sector, which was just amazing. You don't see that actual data unless you look at sector times. I just assumed everyone else did lol
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Great ride by Hill.
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daemon616 wrote:
I don't think anything can grow here right now. :( [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/07/21/276064/s1200_2018_07_21_14_55_48_Window.jpg[/img]
I don't think anything can grow here right now. Sad


Weather Underground FTW
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daemon616 wrote:
I don't think anything can grow here right now. :( [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/07/21/276064/s1200_2018_07_21_14_55_48_Window.jpg[/img]
I don't think anything can grow here right now. Sad


I did my lawn work last night at 10pm after getting home from the gym, lol. I wanted to ride this weekend but damn is it hot!
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KMC440 7/21/2018 1:04pm
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Switched to BEIN TV for the moto america from Utah
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plowboy 7/21/2018 1:05pm
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philG wrote:
this is why i dont give a fuck about 40 rider gates when 15 of them are rolling round with 10 to go...
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Seriously, watching the nationals this year has been frustrating with all the lappers. I don't know why people rather have a 40 rider gate with riders...
Seriously, watching the nationals this year has been frustrating with all the lappers. I don't know why people rather have a 40 rider gate with riders at the end just rolling around rather than a 25-30 rider gate with riders that actually try till the last lap.
Easy fellers....those guys getting lapped are the fastest guys from wherever they're from. They deserve the chance to get out there as much as anyone. Granted they could be more aware of where they are and not unduly impede the big boys but lappers are no more an obstacle than anything else on the track. When a line blows out you find a new line. If someone's in your line you do the same. This is not a race for elites only. Getting around lappers is a skill equal to scrubbing, skimming whoops, or hucking jumps....all part of it.
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benstone 7/21/2018 1:06pm
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BSmooth13 wrote:
It's the only way to really see where guys are gaining/losing, and how to follow pace when the broadcast isn't showing what you want to see...
It's the only way to really see where guys are gaining/losing, and how to follow pace when the broadcast isn't showing what you want to see.

And, it can tell you something interesting, I think - like that S1 vs S2 difference between ET3 and the others today. I forget what race it was, maybe Southwick? Or earlier...can't remember...anyhow, ET3 was damn near 2 seconds quicker than everyone in a 50some second sector, which was just amazing. You don't see that actual data unless you look at sector times. I just assumed everyone else did lol
Is there any place to see the sections on a track map?
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Kawi15 7/21/2018 1:09pm
7/21/2018 1:09pm
Man that track got rough, and 2 more motos yet to go.
Also Lappers are just part of the race, always have been. Just an obstacle to deal with. Variable and moving perhaps but part of the race.

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plowboy 7/21/2018 1:09pm
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KMC440 wrote:
How are my flowers ?
plowboy wrote:
Thanks fellers. The flowers are exploding with the recent rains. Unfortunately, I started weedeating at 6:30 this morning and immediately was covered in skeeters. East Texas...
Thanks fellers. The flowers are exploding with the recent rains. Unfortunately, I started weedeating at 6:30 this morning and immediately was covered in skeeters. East Texas kinda skeeters. Slathered on some 99% deet from my GI days and survived. Anyhow...Kenny feelin' peppy...good to hear.
daemon616 wrote:
I don't think anything can grow here right now. :( [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/07/21/276064/s1200_2018_07_21_14_55_48_Window.jpg[/img]
I don't think anything can grow here right now. Sad


I want to retire in Texas because I'm tired of cold ass Kansas winters but I could get pretty tired of that heat too. Mother$@;#rBlink Unsure
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KMC440 7/21/2018 1:11pm
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Kansas winters ? Hell I'd be in shorts !!

Lucky !!
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Any live streams??? Please PM me if you don't want post publicly !
Same please. The one I had stopped
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GO TROLL!
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BSmooth13 wrote:
It's the only way to really see where guys are gaining/losing, and how to follow pace when the broadcast isn't showing what you want to see...
It's the only way to really see where guys are gaining/losing, and how to follow pace when the broadcast isn't showing what you want to see.

And, it can tell you something interesting, I think - like that S1 vs S2 difference between ET3 and the others today. I forget what race it was, maybe Southwick? Or earlier...can't remember...anyhow, ET3 was damn near 2 seconds quicker than everyone in a 50some second sector, which was just amazing. You don't see that actual data unless you look at sector times. I just assumed everyone else did lol
benstone wrote:
Is there any place to see the sections on a track map?
On the live timing page if you click track map at the top they usually have the splits

http://americanmotocrosslive.com/xml/MX/events/M1840/trackmap.pdf
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plowboy wrote:
I want to retire in Texas because I'm tired of cold ass Kansas winters but I could get pretty tired of that heat too. Mother$@;#rBlink Unsure
Plenty of other places to retire that are more temperate. My parents are in tampa area. 4 months out of the year, my mom's inside hiding from the heat like we do from winter cold in the north
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BSmooth13 7/21/2018 1:21pm
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benstone wrote:
Is there any place to see the sections on a track map?
Yes. If you're on the live timing screen, there's a link at the top for the track map, which shows where the sector start/end marks are.
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plowboy 7/21/2018 1:21pm
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KMC440 wrote:
Kansas winters ? Hell I'd be in shorts !!

Lucky !!
Yep, it could be worse but my old bones and joints just scream from Nov-Mar...I'm tired of it.
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2whlfun 7/21/2018 1:23pm
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The helmet cam footage following Plessinger first moto. Wow ??
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KMC440 7/21/2018 1:23pm
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KMC440 wrote:
Kansas winters ? Hell I'd be in shorts !!

Lucky !!
plowboy wrote:
Yep, it could be worse but my old bones and joints just scream from Nov-Mar...I'm tired of it.
Mine too trust me ... the 24in we got in April kicked my everlovin ass

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