mx vs atv all out

3/22/2018 6:34pm
People that have All Out already and have played MES: if you had to pick one, which one would it be?
At this point MES. Cornering is 10x better and I actually prefer the stiff in air physics as in All Out it only takes a half push of the stick to do 3 barrel rolls. “Free the whip” isn’t all it’s hyped up to be. Content wise the game probably trumps MES but you just have to embrace the full arcade nature of it.
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3/22/2018 7:06pm Edited Date/Time 3/22/2018 7:10pm
People that have All Out already and have played MES: if you had to pick one, which one would it be?
At the moment MES wins hands down.

MES for boring real quick but at the moment it beats it in physics, graphics, and everything else.
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3/22/2018 7:18pm
You know, if first person shooter games were even close to realistic they wouldn't much fun at all. (I know, I know Arma 3 is awesome) But what I'm getting at is that this is an arcade game so give it a chance. If this was a realistic game most of us wouldn't even be able to get around a supercross track without being carted off. Grinning

Let's be glad they're even making a moto game! Hopefully it sells well so they keep it up.
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3/22/2018 7:22pm
Hcallz5 wrote:
You know, if first person shooter games were even close to realistic they wouldn't much fun at all. (I know, I know Arma 3 is awesome)...
You know, if first person shooter games were even close to realistic they wouldn't much fun at all. (I know, I know Arma 3 is awesome) But what I'm getting at is that this is an arcade game so give it a chance. If this was a realistic game most of us wouldn't even be able to get around a supercross track without being carted off. Grinning

Let's be glad they're even making a moto game! Hopefully it sells well so they keep it up.
It's not about being realistic, that's one aspect of its physics. it's about not making the fucking rider look like an absolute dog humping goon.

An equivalent comparison would be if a first person shooter held the gun backwards to shoot or walked around like a retard.

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3/22/2018 8:54pm
Been playing it for the past 4 hours, my first thought were this is terrible, now my thoughts are it’s not very good.

If MES didn’t have bad servers and had a better online experience I wouldn’t be playing all out at all, the right stick (lean) is useless on this game it may aswell not be there, you can lean back and forth in the air with the left stick too which is weird, it feels like they need to tone down the speed and turning sensetivity.

The whips are free but if you can whip you are a god as it’s near impossible.

It has pretty much the same bugs as MES, getting reset online for no reason, said I came second in a race that I won, and FPS drops are bad, oh and it’s dashboarded me once already :/
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3/22/2018 9:15pm
Say what you will, but I'm enjoying this game guys.... I like it!
3/22/2018 9:55pm
Anyone else get like 15fps in some of these waypoint races?

Really think the game could be great. But its so painful to look at whrn its running like this.
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3/22/2018 10:00pm
Hmm. It will be Monday before I'm able to play. The fact I'm not furious at my career right now and can't play immediately is rather telling. I hated everyone who got in my way when MES dropped. Wink

But hey, I'm sure All Out will bring some good stuff to the table. I just thought with the whole new ground up engine that it would look more...different. But again, no major judgements till get to play.
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3/22/2018 10:02pm Edited Date/Time 3/22/2018 10:04pm
People that have All Out already and have played MES: if you had to pick one, which one would it be?
Mes. By far. This game is terrible. Impossible to whip decent. Bike sounds are absolutely terrible. Handling is so wonky. And the graphics are so wack... I was actually more happy with mva supercross and I will never play that game again
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3/22/2018 10:11pm
This game is a giant steaming pile of of fucking shit. Reflex great, alive good, supercross bad. This...wtf. Holy shitballs this sucks.
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3/22/2018 10:16pm
I think the learning curve on this is actually a good thing, the shitty part is the fps tho, can’t even enjoy it at all since it’s so laggy in races
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3/22/2018 10:26pm Edited Date/Time 3/22/2018 10:32pm
I honestly wonder if the guys at nordic ask each other how bad they can make a game and still get people to buy it. I'm beyond disappointed with this. I've been playing for a little over an hour now and I can't take it anymore. Also looks like bubba from crusty demons on a bike. And what the hell is the noise you hear when the clutch is pulled in? It's not a dirt bike that's for damn sure
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3/22/2018 10:31pm
greenmx5 wrote:
I honestly wonder if the guys at nordic ask each other how bad they can make a game and still get people to buy it. I'm...
I honestly wonder if the guys at nordic ask each other how bad they can make a game and still get people to buy it. I'm beyond disappointed with this. I've been playing for a little over an hour now and I can't take it anymore. Also looks like bubba from crusty demons on a bike. And what the hell is the noise you hear when the clutch is pulled in? It's not a dirt bike that's for damn sure
Same here. I can honestly say that its probably the worst game ive played. Ever.
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3/22/2018 11:04pm
Thanks boys, you just saved me $500. I was a die hard Reflex xbox 360 guy then my xbox died. Looks like I wont be buying an xbox one
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3/22/2018 11:04pm
greenmx5 wrote:
I honestly wonder if the guys at nordic ask each other how bad they can make a game and still get people to buy it. I'm...
I honestly wonder if the guys at nordic ask each other how bad they can make a game and still get people to buy it. I'm beyond disappointed with this. I've been playing for a little over an hour now and I can't take it anymore. Also looks like bubba from crusty demons on a bike. And what the hell is the noise you hear when the clutch is pulled in? It's not a dirt bike that's for damn sure
dirtmike86 wrote:
Same here. I can honestly say that its probably the worst game ive played. Ever.
Long time fan of the series...god I’m trying so hard to like this game and I’m struggling.
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3/22/2018 11:13pm
The physics are so slow on the grund, you have to turn before you actually want to turn, and if you even look at the lean thumbstick in the air youre flat/backwards.

Fuck i thought this was gonna be good but im using all of my self control not to chuck the fucking remote at my TV.
And why cant i change the controls? I can only use their shitty setups
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3/22/2018 11:21pm
Blink I’m dying here. Is this real? Or is this a joke and they are gonna put a patch out tomorrow saying “early April fools, here’s a download patch with the real game” certainly this is the case....right?
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3/22/2018 11:25pm Edited Date/Time 3/22/2018 11:44pm
Hmmm....here is Kellen's first look at Start Your Systems. And this guy knows moto games.

Again, I'll try to reserve judgement and allow for learning curve but, straight up, this looks cartoony and pretty damn bad especially in comparison to what we got a little over a month ago from their competitor. Now, let's get this out of the way. Here it comes...#authenticity. Yes, I love MES. BUT, I want this to be good, also. But I don't know guys. Let's wait and see.

Here's the video. You've been warned. Like, wtf...the width of this SX track at end of the video is out of control. It looks like one of the old MC games...or Unleashed. :/ This is purely by looking at people playing and you gotta allow for it only being a few hours old but none of that is going to change how bad the cornering looks and how wide the tracks is. Just looking, I am really let down. And I didn't expect it to be all that but I did expect them to step it up. Game speed is much better, at least. Slot cam is bad ass, as always.

Anyway....

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3/22/2018 11:35pm
Is this early access thing just a trial? Can we get our money back? I've never been so disappointed in a game. Untamed, reflex, and alive were all miles and miles ahead of this garbage. I can't believe this is what they have released to us. I'm just in awe. This shit can't be real
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3/22/2018 11:35pm Edited Date/Time 3/22/2018 11:45pm
I love it, it is the exact opposite of MES for starters, (I enjoy MES) it took 3 races (at first I was like "craaaap") but now i'm getting the hang of it and I feel like the replayability is there, Excited for some patches but its fun, definitely an arcade game.

But also you just cant hold it pinned, slowing down in corners and being careful how you lean is key, the whip mechanic is a little much though.
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3/22/2018 11:36pm
This is worse than the first time i tried playing MXsim, i pray to god a patch is already on its way because i am so fucking sick of it already, if you dont get the holeshot or fall on the first lap so the AI get by then just restart, you cant pass them and if you try to punt them/blockpass? They just clutch boost right in to your rear tire and youre off flying.

30 minutes in as of now and i wont play a minute more until this shit is fixed
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3/22/2018 11:37pm
I also think first person is pretty rad in this game.
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3/22/2018 11:48pm
greenmx5 wrote:
Is this early access thing just a trial? Can we get our money back? I've never been so disappointed in a game. Untamed, reflex, and alive...
Is this early access thing just a trial? Can we get our money back? I've never been so disappointed in a game. Untamed, reflex, and alive were all miles and miles ahead of this garbage. I can't believe this is what they have released to us. I'm just in awe. This shit can't be real
Asking this honestly... you know of a way to get money back having bought it as digital copy?
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This really is not as bad as some people are making it seem. Is it perfect? No.. but with some time and practice I think it will be quite enjoyable. I haven't gotten too far into the game, but that being said, here are my thoughts after some time spent

Pros:
-The gyro of the bike when hitting a rhythm smooth in SX is very satisfying
-With practice, you CAN throw down on some great whips. But it certainly takes some practice. And playing with the sticks you can have several different styles
-Ruts do have an affect in corners
-Lots of available gear options
-Clutch effect is still there, but not super dramatic like in Alive

Cons:
-Steering is much too sensitive on the ground. Found myself turning 200 degrees on bowl turns A LOT (Think Unleashed)
-Air physics need to be tamed down just a bit. The bike is very sensitive in the air
-Rider is a little big I think
-Rider is too far back on the bike in corners
-Bike sound could use some work, but it may change from model to model and with different exhausts

General:
-Air Physics aren't quite as floaty in gameplay as they seemed on earlier videos (to me)
-Track Deformation is nowhere near what it was on Reflex.. I hate to bring that up, it doesn't really bother me, but I know it's something a lot of people have talked about
-Graphics are nothing to write home about (it IS 2018 after all) but visually the game doesn't look bad at all

As many have said, it's an Arcade style game, so you should expect it to play as one. If you ask me, its an Unleashed/Reflex sequel. Forget Alive and Encore ever happened lol
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3/23/2018 12:13am
Just refunded my Xbox one version after it plays really laggy, hoping the PC version is better
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3/23/2018 12:15am Edited Date/Time 3/23/2018 12:20am
Getting no lag, least doing nationals and AX so far.
There is a lot of bugs and glitches though texture wise.

Nothing happens when going through water, the screen flashes white at random, etc.
3/23/2018 12:42am
This game belongs in 2002.
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3/23/2018 2:38am
Just had my first real bizarre where my tires started glowing then changing colors then shooting solar flares





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3/23/2018 3:12am
lol Holy
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3/23/2018 3:14am
honestly after playin it for a while, i find these whip physics extremely addicting. it feels pretty good to get steezy ones consistently. once they figure out the lag issues i think this game will be pretty fun ecspecially multiplayer supercross.

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