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Kx125rider wrote:
A fast guy will be fast on any bike.
RCMXracing wrote:
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the...
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the pro level that 5% might as well be 100%. For the rest of us spodes doesn’t matter much. Never understood brand loyalty. Not sure I would want a bike that finished last in the shootouts unless I found a great deal, did a couple mods, and took advantage of contingency. If you can’t corner worth a shit, buy an RMZ! Loved my 2011 except the rigid chassis and headshake. What’s sad is they had all that time to do a complete overhaul and they did a partial. The company is hurting. They don’t make anything else like the other Japanese. Hollow support. Always fast guys riding Yellow because it’s good enough to win on and they pay for racing with contingency.
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again who is hurting
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RCMXracing wrote:
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the...
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the pro level that 5% might as well be 100%. For the rest of us spodes doesn’t matter much. Never understood brand loyalty. Not sure I would want a bike that finished last in the shootouts unless I found a great deal, did a couple mods, and took advantage of contingency. If you can’t corner worth a shit, buy an RMZ! Loved my 2011 except the rigid chassis and headshake. What’s sad is they had all that time to do a complete overhaul and they did a partial. The company is hurting. They don’t make anything else like the other Japanese. Hollow support. Always fast guys riding Yellow because it’s good enough to win on and they pay for racing with contingency.
pmshortt2 wrote:
They make cars tho Huh
RCMXracing wrote:
They haven’t sold cars in the USA since 2012. No one was buying them because they were and still are toads.
They make their money in Asia and Europe selling cars bro
coastlinecascot 2/25/2018 5:12pm
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Here's my take on a Suzuki. The gearbox is clunky and clutch weak. I have a 14 coming off a 15 yz450f. However next full motor rebuild I'm sending the transmission out for treatment. I have a hinson in it. However the bike tracks well not super powerful easy to ride. Im having fun again on track riding.
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And who rides a bike stock these days
Mucktub wrote:
Me. My dad used to say "standard stuff for standard men". Something which I agree with. I'm pretty sure the majority of weekend knob jockeys couldn't...
Me. My dad used to say "standard stuff for standard men". Something which I agree with.

I'm pretty sure the majority of weekend knob jockeys couldn't tell the difference between standard and modified. And I'm grinning when I kick some modified steads ass on my standard RMZ450.
Maybe as far as the motor goes.

But having your suspension done makes a huge difference. Even for amateurs. Makes the bike much more controllable.

And if you've never had your's done, then you really don't know wtf you're talking about.




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Kx125rider wrote:
A fast guy will be fast on any bike.
RCMXracing wrote:
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the...
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the pro level that 5% might as well be 100%. For the rest of us spodes doesn’t matter much. Never understood brand loyalty. Not sure I would want a bike that finished last in the shootouts unless I found a great deal, did a couple mods, and took advantage of contingency. If you can’t corner worth a shit, buy an RMZ! Loved my 2011 except the rigid chassis and headshake. What’s sad is they had all that time to do a complete overhaul and they did a partial. The company is hurting. They don’t make anything else like the other Japanese. Hollow support. Always fast guys riding Yellow because it’s good enough to win on and they pay for racing with contingency.
Construction wrote:
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again...
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again who is hurting
Motorcycle division made a profit for the first time in 11 years in 2016...so that’s a plus.
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Construction 2/25/2018 5:20pm
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RCMXracing wrote:
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the...
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the pro level that 5% might as well be 100%. For the rest of us spodes doesn’t matter much. Never understood brand loyalty. Not sure I would want a bike that finished last in the shootouts unless I found a great deal, did a couple mods, and took advantage of contingency. If you can’t corner worth a shit, buy an RMZ! Loved my 2011 except the rigid chassis and headshake. What’s sad is they had all that time to do a complete overhaul and they did a partial. The company is hurting. They don’t make anything else like the other Japanese. Hollow support. Always fast guys riding Yellow because it’s good enough to win on and they pay for racing with contingency.
Construction wrote:
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again...
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again who is hurting
BobPA wrote:
Motorcycle division made a profit for the first time in 11 years in 2016...so that’s a plus.
Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your precious ktm. As a matter of fact the company makes more than yammie, kawie and ktm combined. So with that said Suzuki the company is doing very well.
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Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your...
Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your precious ktm. As a matter of fact the company makes more than yammie, kawie and ktm combined. So with that said Suzuki the company is doing very well.
What else does Suzuki make? Kawasaki makes ships, trains, etc.
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BobPA 2/25/2018 5:33pm
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Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your...
Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your precious ktm. As a matter of fact the company makes more than yammie, kawie and ktm combined. So with that said Suzuki the company is doing very well.
Bro, needni explain again. I’m a Kawasaki guy, KTM just happens to build a bike that currently fits me better. I guess you are on Suzuki’s payroll eh? Or are you emotionally involved in a company that couldn’t care less about your existence.

You are from NJ bro, nothing else needs to be said hahahah.
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Construction wrote:
Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your...
Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your precious ktm. As a matter of fact the company makes more than yammie, kawie and ktm combined. So with that said Suzuki the company is doing very well.
BobPA wrote:
Bro, needni explain again. I’m a Kawasaki guy, KTM just happens to build a bike that currently fits me better. I guess you are on Suzuki’s...
Bro, needni explain again. I’m a Kawasaki guy, KTM just happens to build a bike that currently fits me better. I guess you are on Suzuki’s payroll eh? Or are you emotionally involved in a company that couldn’t care less about your existence.

You are from NJ bro, nothing else needs to be said hahahah.
Actually was a Suzuki supported rider, a kawie supported rider and offered a deal from ktm usa in 09 but didn’t take it. Like the people and company at Suzuki the most. Anything else you would like to know yes from jersey thank god. i actually lived In that inbred state of pa for a couple months. White inbred broke trash every where.
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Actually was a Suzuki supported rider, a kawie supported rider and offered a deal from ktm usa in 09 but didn’t take it. Like the people...
Actually was a Suzuki supported rider, a kawie supported rider and offered a deal from ktm usa in 09 but didn’t take it. Like the people and company at Suzuki the most. Anything else you would like to know yes from jersey thank god. i actually lived In that inbred state of pa for a couple months. White inbred broke trash every where.
Laughing Valium bro, you’re gonna blow a gasket.
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TeamGreen wrote:
I rated it last; but, that was...& still is all about the wonky shock. I’ve been riding it for months & have the shock about as...
I rated it last; but, that was...& still is all about the wonky shock. I’ve been riding it for months & have the shock about as good as it can get...stock. The handling is rock solid AND it turns well. The engine seems BULLETPROOF. Transmission is smooth and concise. Forks are pretty damn good (not quite the right preload stock. It looks good and plenty of people have bought them for really, really good prices.

This is an excellent motorcycle and a great value. Spend some time gettin’ the shock figured out and you’re good to go.
jeffro503 wrote:
Manny....have you tested this machine with an A-kit?
I'm gonna try the kit shock, the forks are just going to get the preload adjusted.
Langhammx 2/25/2018 7:28pm
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pmshortt2 wrote:
What about the 250? Thinking of buying one instead of the kx250f next month. I feel at my level of riding theirs absolutely no way I...
What about the 250? Thinking of buying one instead of the kx250f next month. I feel at my level of riding theirs absolutely no way I am going to see a difference between the two. The newest bike i've ever riden was a 2000 Kx250f Laughing
The newest bike i've ever riden was a 2000 Kx250f

Ummm, OK. You were way ahead of time. (like 4 years) Laughing
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What about the 250? Thinking of buying one instead of the kx250f next month. I feel at my level of riding theirs absolutely no way I...
What about the 250? Thinking of buying one instead of the kx250f next month. I feel at my level of riding theirs absolutely no way I am going to see a difference between the two. The newest bike i've ever riden was a 2000 Kx250f Laughing
Langhammx wrote:
The newest bike i've ever riden was a 2000 Kx250f

Ummm, OK. You were way ahead of time. (like 4 years) Laughing
Ahh my bad. It was a Kawasaki 4 stroke, not a 250 but either way you get the picture. Old bike Pinch
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Construction wrote:
Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your...
Reading comprehension isn’t your strength but we all know pa school system isn’t the strongest. He said the company isn’t doing well the company dwarfs your precious ktm. As a matter of fact the company makes more than yammie, kawie and ktm combined. So with that said Suzuki the company is doing very well.
mx317 wrote:
What else does Suzuki make? Kawasaki makes ships, trains, etc.
Boat motors
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Kx125rider wrote:
A fast guy will be fast on any bike.
RCMXracing wrote:
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the...
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the pro level that 5% might as well be 100%. For the rest of us spodes doesn’t matter much. Never understood brand loyalty. Not sure I would want a bike that finished last in the shootouts unless I found a great deal, did a couple mods, and took advantage of contingency. If you can’t corner worth a shit, buy an RMZ! Loved my 2011 except the rigid chassis and headshake. What’s sad is they had all that time to do a complete overhaul and they did a partial. The company is hurting. They don’t make anything else like the other Japanese. Hollow support. Always fast guys riding Yellow because it’s good enough to win on and they pay for racing with contingency.
Construction wrote:
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again...
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again who is hurting
Suzuki Corp has a lot of debt. Just doesn’t seem like Suzuki is knocking it out of the park with giving up on the US auto market and a bringing a half updated dirtbike after 10 years...kinda weak. I don’t care about “winning Vital”...I’m out of my depth looking at financials as an expert, but I can google and - (minus) 24.64 Billion in cash seems bad. Year over year not as profitable as Yamaha or Honda, but better than Kaw and KTM. Looks like they’re on the comeback trail. Maybe one of our Vital experts can point some facts out?
Edit: The KTM financials are a quarter older than others, but dang! Look at the earnings per share (EPS) 3,260%










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Micahdogg 2/25/2018 9:26pm
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I find it funny, the comments about how slow the RMZ450 is. I had to look up the dyno comparison for 2018



Up to 9000 rpm there isn't an earth shattering difference, the worst and best are separated by about 3HP. And the slowest bike of the bunch still makes 55HP.

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TeamGreen wrote:
I rated it last; but, that was...& still is all about the wonky shock. I’ve been riding it for months & have the shock about as...
I rated it last; but, that was...& still is all about the wonky shock. I’ve been riding it for months & have the shock about as good as it can get...stock. The handling is rock solid AND it turns well. The engine seems BULLETPROOF. Transmission is smooth and concise. Forks are pretty damn good (not quite the right preload stock. It looks good and plenty of people have bought them for really, really good prices.

This is an excellent motorcycle and a great value. Spend some time gettin’ the shock figured out and you’re good to go.
jeffro503 wrote:
Manny....have you tested this machine with an A-kit?
TeamGreen wrote:
I'm gonna try the kit shock, the forks are just going to get the preload adjusted.
Thanks Manny for the reply. Post what your findings are after , if you don't mind? I have a feeling , she'll be one sweet riding machine. I myself have ridden a few of the newer 450's and 350's , and still to this day , I remember riding a bone stock 2012 RMZ 450.....and it was freakin' nice! It did not feel heavy when riding it , had very usable power and it turned better than any big bike I have ridden to date. On big 4 strokes....I bled green , but I would not of minded at all , to own a Suzi!
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Mucktub 2/26/2018 4:02pm
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And who rides a bike stock these days
Mucktub wrote:
Me. My dad used to say "standard stuff for standard men". Something which I agree with. I'm pretty sure the majority of weekend knob jockeys couldn't...
Me. My dad used to say "standard stuff for standard men". Something which I agree with.

I'm pretty sure the majority of weekend knob jockeys couldn't tell the difference between standard and modified. And I'm grinning when I kick some modified steads ass on my standard RMZ450.
Indy mxer wrote:
Maybe as far as the motor goes. But having your suspension done makes a huge difference. Even for amateurs. Makes the bike much more controllable. And...
Maybe as far as the motor goes.

But having your suspension done makes a huge difference. Even for amateurs. Makes the bike much more controllable.

And if you've never had your's done, then you really don't know wtf you're talking about.




The vast majority of amateur riders don't even know how to set a bike up. So even if you get your suspension sorted, if you don't know what changes to make for differing or deteriarating conditions you're not really going to feel the benefit of the expense paid. Some riders may feel the difference but let's face it some will claim it's better just because of the money spent.

There is a lot of bullshit involved in modifications for the ordinary lads IMO.
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RCMXracing wrote:
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the...
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the pro level that 5% might as well be 100%. For the rest of us spodes doesn’t matter much. Never understood brand loyalty. Not sure I would want a bike that finished last in the shootouts unless I found a great deal, did a couple mods, and took advantage of contingency. If you can’t corner worth a shit, buy an RMZ! Loved my 2011 except the rigid chassis and headshake. What’s sad is they had all that time to do a complete overhaul and they did a partial. The company is hurting. They don’t make anything else like the other Japanese. Hollow support. Always fast guys riding Yellow because it’s good enough to win on and they pay for racing with contingency.
Construction wrote:
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again...
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again who is hurting
RCMXracing wrote:
Suzuki Corp has a lot of debt. Just doesn’t seem like Suzuki is knocking it out of the park with giving up on the US auto...
Suzuki Corp has a lot of debt. Just doesn’t seem like Suzuki is knocking it out of the park with giving up on the US auto market and a bringing a half updated dirtbike after 10 years...kinda weak. I don’t care about “winning Vital”...I’m out of my depth looking at financials as an expert, but I can google and - (minus) 24.64 Billion in cash seems bad. Year over year not as profitable as Yamaha or Honda, but better than Kaw and KTM. Looks like they’re on the comeback trail. Maybe one of our Vital experts can point some facts out?
Edit: The KTM financials are a quarter older than others, but dang! Look at the earnings per share (EPS) 3,260%










They had a net profit of 1.5 billion Yamaha 600 mill ktm had a net profit of 70 something’s my mill. Not sure how you got your numbers. Here’s another their net profit every single year is higher than ktm kawie and Yamaha combined every year.
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RCMXracing wrote:
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the...
Yep. 95% rider 5% bike. Unless that bike is a hunk a poo. That’s why Yamaha has struggled since the 2010 - flawed chassis. At the pro level that 5% might as well be 100%. For the rest of us spodes doesn’t matter much. Never understood brand loyalty. Not sure I would want a bike that finished last in the shootouts unless I found a great deal, did a couple mods, and took advantage of contingency. If you can’t corner worth a shit, buy an RMZ! Loved my 2011 except the rigid chassis and headshake. What’s sad is they had all that time to do a complete overhaul and they did a partial. The company is hurting. They don’t make anything else like the other Japanese. Hollow support. Always fast guys riding Yellow because it’s good enough to win on and they pay for racing with contingency.
Construction wrote:
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again...
If you think they’re hurting you should probably look up the financials then look up the financials of Yamaha kawie and ktm and tell us again who is hurting
RCMXracing wrote:
Suzuki Corp has a lot of debt. Just doesn’t seem like Suzuki is knocking it out of the park with giving up on the US auto...
Suzuki Corp has a lot of debt. Just doesn’t seem like Suzuki is knocking it out of the park with giving up on the US auto market and a bringing a half updated dirtbike after 10 years...kinda weak. I don’t care about “winning Vital”...I’m out of my depth looking at financials as an expert, but I can google and - (minus) 24.64 Billion in cash seems bad. Year over year not as profitable as Yamaha or Honda, but better than Kaw and KTM. Looks like they’re on the comeback trail. Maybe one of our Vital experts can point some facts out?
Edit: The KTM financials are a quarter older than others, but dang! Look at the earnings per share (EPS) 3,260%










And for the record the day they announced they would stop selling cars In the us their stock went up and so did profits. It’s wasnt a bad move it was a great move proven by their financials and stock performance
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Mucktub wrote:
Me. My dad used to say "standard stuff for standard men". Something which I agree with. I'm pretty sure the majority of weekend knob jockeys couldn't...
Me. My dad used to say "standard stuff for standard men". Something which I agree with.

I'm pretty sure the majority of weekend knob jockeys couldn't tell the difference between standard and modified. And I'm grinning when I kick some modified steads ass on my standard RMZ450.
Indy mxer wrote:
Maybe as far as the motor goes. But having your suspension done makes a huge difference. Even for amateurs. Makes the bike much more controllable. And...
Maybe as far as the motor goes.

But having your suspension done makes a huge difference. Even for amateurs. Makes the bike much more controllable.

And if you've never had your's done, then you really don't know wtf you're talking about.




Mucktub wrote:
The vast majority of amateur riders don't even know how to set a bike up. So even if you get your suspension sorted, if you don't...
The vast majority of amateur riders don't even know how to set a bike up. So even if you get your suspension sorted, if you don't know what changes to make for differing or deteriarating conditions you're not really going to feel the benefit of the expense paid. Some riders may feel the difference but let's face it some will claim it's better just because of the money spent.

There is a lot of bullshit involved in modifications for the ordinary lads IMO.
Painting with a pretty broad brush. I would argue a majority could tell the difference. Bikes are set up from the factory for certain rider weights. If you're not in the range they'll beat you to death. No adjusting will help that.

I know. I weigh 155 and ride a 16 KX 450. Stock it was way too stiff and I couldn't get the sag even close. Like every bike I buy I have to go to a lighter spring. Plus the forks were shit. Thanks to Factory Connection, I love riding it now.

Any rider with even moderate skills could tell the difference when the suspension is set up specifically for them.

Anyway, how do you know so much about suspension mods since you've never had it done?
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They had a net profit of 1.5 billion Yamaha 600 mill ktm had a net profit of 70 something’s my mill. Not sure how you got...
They had a net profit of 1.5 billion Yamaha 600 mill ktm had a net profit of 70 something’s my mill. Not sure how you got your numbers. Here’s another their net profit every single year is higher than ktm kawie and Yamaha combined every year.
Bro, since when do profits from other endeavors create a better motorcycle? People ride what they want to ride. Suzuki, out of the box, makes an “inferior” motorcycle compared to their competition. I put inferior in quotes because it is still a good bike, just a tick off what the competition offers.
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TeamGreen 2/26/2018 6:09pm
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About "Inferior Motorcycles" and other presumptions...

Might I suggest many of you reserve judgement on what is assumed to be superior or inferior until AFTER you've put 50-60 hours on it and have learned...

1. What you'll have to REPLACE & REPAIR...and what that costs in the real world.
2. What amazing differences a flat-blade screwdriver, ride height and preload adjustments can make.
3. How much effort some bikes DO or DON'T take to get around various kinds of tracks.

But, hey, that's just me.
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TeamGreen 2/26/2018 6:22pm
2/26/2018 6:22pm
TeamGreen wrote:
:whistle: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/26/246341/s1200_image.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/26/246342/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
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erik_94COBRA wrote:
Please reply in your build thread!
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adjentleman 2/26/2018 8:10pm
2/26/2018 8:10pm
Frank wrote:
Its a great bike for under $7k out the door new. I think the JGR bikes are the best looking in the pits. Might just be...
Its a great bike for under $7k out the door new. I think the JGR bikes are the best looking in the pits. Might just be that they don't look like energy drink cans.
Under 7k new? You tell me where I can find one that cheap and I'll buy it because I havent seen one at any of my local dealers under $8500.
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