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dsmith wrote:
I watched this 2017 movie called "mother"...freaky..
Total garbage. After the 1st 15 minutes we watched it at double speed and FF speed.
Most movies today are an epic waste of time.




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12/29/2017 2:27pm
I forgot MERU. Great movie / documentarie.
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dsmith wrote:
I watched this 2017 movie called "mother"...freaky..
I thought that the first two acts were pretty solid. It went a little off the rails in the third act, though. Disappointed, I was.

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12/29/2017 10:08pm Edited Date/Time 12/29/2017 10:21pm
TXDirt wrote:
What are some underrated movies?

I’ll give one.

October Sky

Great flick that never got a lot of press.
Blue Ruin

Might still be on Netflix. Not underrated, but not widely popular due to a limited release. It's a real good watch.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blue_ruin/


'71

Another one worth checking out. British film, not sure how much action it saw at the US box office.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/71_2015/
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Lebanon bans new film ‘The Post,’ citing Spielberg’s ties to Israel



“Israel is still officially at war with Lebanon, and when two states are at war it is normal for them to take certain measures against each other,” he said. “Lebanon, or certain sectors in Lebanon, have recently realized the dangers of cultural and academic normalization with Israel . . . after this whole Arab overture to Israel.”



1/15/2018 9:51pm
Quick hits:

Star Wars = Jumped the shark.

American History X = brilliant flick in a long list of GREAT films starring Edward Norton. Seriously, go back and watch a few Norton movies and marvel at the level of quality of films he's been involved in. (Primal Fear, The People vs. Larry Flynt, Rounders, Fight Club, Am. Hist. X, The Score, Death to Smoochy (seriously), 25th Hour, The Illusionist, Stone...)

Brawl in Cell Block 99 = Had no idea what I was going to watch. Didn't love it. No interest in that gener.

Downsizing = the premise had excellent potential, but the plot fell hard on its face. Would've been much better as a premium TV series where more of the storylines could have developed. I left the theater feeling a bit robbed.
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1/15/2018 11:45pm
Recently watched Dunkirk and I still can't get over it.
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1/16/2018 1:20am
I watched Django Unchained over the weekend. Talk about a great movie. Thank you to whoever recommended that one.
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1/16/2018 7:53am
dsmith wrote:
why did that cop have to such a dick to Rambo?.....if he just would of just said good morning and and left it at that...that whole...
why did that cop have to such a dick to Rambo?.....if he just would of just said good morning and and left it at that...that whole town would not of gotten blown up and some lives saved...no he had to keep goin...."You know, wearing that flag on that jacket, looking the way you do, you're asking for trouble around here, friend.".."If you want some friendly advice, get a haircut and take a bath. You wouldn't get hassled so much."....what a f'n dickhead.
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There is a tendency to forget what a good movie this was because of how cartoonist the sequels became. The same for the original Rocky.
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I haven't seen smokey and the bandit for awhile I watched it last night...that movie still kicks some serious ass!!

"Oh I love your suits. It must have been a bitch to get a 68 Extra Fat and a 12 Dwarf. "









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1/16/2018 4:26pm
dsmith wrote:
I haven't seen smokey and the bandit for awhile I watched it last night...that movie still kicks some serious ass!! "Oh I love your suits. It...
I haven't seen smokey and the bandit for awhile I watched it last night...that movie still kicks some serious ass!!

"Oh I love your suits. It must have been a bitch to get a 68 Extra Fat and a 12 Dwarf. "









Filmed right by my house.

https://youtu.be/lQjlU82c31Y
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ok...I starting watching three billboards..i still have 40 min. to go...gonna finish it tonight..looks like a good one...anybody seen it yet?
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The general rule of thumb is that a movie needs a 2.5x multiplier over the course of its life in theaters to actually make a profit. This means it needs to make 2.5x its budget. Of course, this isn't always true. Some movies like the Cloverfield franchise are usually able to run pretty cheap advertising campaigns so they don't necessarily need to hit that 2.5x multiplier, while some studio movies like Justice League go way over their reported budget which results in needing to hit a 3x+ multiplier.

With this info in mind, I decided to take a look at some of the notable releases so far this year and see if they've made a profit using this standard. But do keep in mind that just because a movie is set to make a profit doesn't mean that the studio is pocketing every cent of said profit. There's a lot more to it than that, but I have to be fairly general considering a lot of details (outside of the production budget and potential marketing budget) are not often leaked for movies.

Paddington 2
Release Date: January 12, 2018
Budget: $40,000,000
Box Office: $196,300,000
2.5x = $100,000,000
Profit = $96,300,000

Maze Runner: The Death Cure
Release Date: January 26, 2018
Budget: $62,000,000
Box Office: $184,000,000
2.5x = $155,000,000
Profit = $29,000,000

Insidious: The Last Key
Release Date: January 5, 2018
Budget: $10,000,000
Box Office: $156,000,000
2.5x = $25,000,000
Profit = $131,000,000

The Commuter
Release Date: January 12, 2018
Budget: $30,000,000
Box Office: $81,500,000
2.5x = $75,000,000
Profit = $6,500,000

12 Strong
Release Date: January 19, 2018
Budget: $35,000,000
Box Office: $46,400,000
2.5x = $87,500,000
Profit = -$41,100,000

Den of Thieves
Release Date: January 19, 2018
Budget: $30,000,000
Box Office: $45,900,000
2.5x = $75,000,000
Profit = -$29,100,000


Now, I don't think that the 2.5x multiplier method is necessarily the best way to estimate profits for movies that had budgets of less than $40,000,000, and you can kind of see why with the estimates for Den of Thieves, 12 Strong, and The Commuter. I think a 2x multiplier is a more accurate method for films of this scale.

Using the 2x for these films:

The Commuter
2x = $60,000,000
Profit = $21,500,000

12 Strong
2x = $70,000,000
Profit = -$23,600,000

Den of Thieves
2x = $60,000,000
Profit =-$14,100,000

But, as you can see, even when decreasing it to 2x two out of three of these movies are still looking at losing money. Their theater runs aren't over yet, and they will still make money through VOD and TV, but it's still not looking good for their studios as of now.
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Good movie, New Zealand flick, every form of social dysfunction in it,once we’re warriors
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Not generally a fan of British Movies but if you want a gritty british flick its worth checking out Rise Of The Footsoldier, based on true...
Not generally a fan of British Movies but if you want a gritty british flick its worth checking out Rise Of The Footsoldier, based on true events and the murders at the end happened just down the road from where I live
Rise of the foot soldier was awesome!
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2/8/2018 9:31am
Hacksaw ridge was pretty awesome, caught it on Netflix. Another different role for Vince Vaughn, he was great in that movie.
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2/8/2018 9:41am
Watched Lethal Weapon on Netflix with my wife the other day. She had never seen it and thought it was really good despite not being her style of movie. I got reminded that its a classic for a reason, held up pretty well, and all the saxophone on the soundtrack was actually really fun. Now she understands why "the gang makes Lethal Weapon 5" episode of Its Always Sunny so funny.
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GD2 wrote:
The general rule of thumb is that a movie needs a 2.5x multiplier over the course of its life in theaters to actually make a profit...
The general rule of thumb is that a movie needs a 2.5x multiplier over the course of its life in theaters to actually make a profit. This means it needs to make 2.5x its budget. Of course, this isn't always true. Some movies like the Cloverfield franchise are usually able to run pretty cheap advertising campaigns so they don't necessarily need to hit that 2.5x multiplier, while some studio movies like Justice League go way over their reported budget which results in needing to hit a 3x+ multiplier.

With this info in mind, I decided to take a look at some of the notable releases so far this year and see if they've made a profit using this standard. But do keep in mind that just because a movie is set to make a profit doesn't mean that the studio is pocketing every cent of said profit. There's a lot more to it than that, but I have to be fairly general considering a lot of details (outside of the production budget and potential marketing budget) are not often leaked for movies.

Paddington 2
Release Date: January 12, 2018
Budget: $40,000,000
Box Office: $196,300,000
2.5x = $100,000,000
Profit = $96,300,000

Maze Runner: The Death Cure
Release Date: January 26, 2018
Budget: $62,000,000
Box Office: $184,000,000
2.5x = $155,000,000
Profit = $29,000,000

Insidious: The Last Key
Release Date: January 5, 2018
Budget: $10,000,000
Box Office: $156,000,000
2.5x = $25,000,000
Profit = $131,000,000

The Commuter
Release Date: January 12, 2018
Budget: $30,000,000
Box Office: $81,500,000
2.5x = $75,000,000
Profit = $6,500,000

12 Strong
Release Date: January 19, 2018
Budget: $35,000,000
Box Office: $46,400,000
2.5x = $87,500,000
Profit = -$41,100,000

Den of Thieves
Release Date: January 19, 2018
Budget: $30,000,000
Box Office: $45,900,000
2.5x = $75,000,000
Profit = -$29,100,000


Now, I don't think that the 2.5x multiplier method is necessarily the best way to estimate profits for movies that had budgets of less than $40,000,000, and you can kind of see why with the estimates for Den of Thieves, 12 Strong, and The Commuter. I think a 2x multiplier is a more accurate method for films of this scale.

Using the 2x for these films:

The Commuter
2x = $60,000,000
Profit = $21,500,000

12 Strong
2x = $70,000,000
Profit = -$23,600,000

Den of Thieves
2x = $60,000,000
Profit =-$14,100,000

But, as you can see, even when decreasing it to 2x two out of three of these movies are still looking at losing money. Their theater runs aren't over yet, and they will still make money through VOD and TV, but it's still not looking good for their studios as of now.

I miss the old days where films were produced specifically for the video rental store ... many of these B films have become cult movies over time ... turns out many films who flop in America (box office) are great successes overseas (mainly in Asia) personally not such a fan of blue / green screen movies... those asians love it tho
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I am super pumped..but not really.... to see clint eastwoods ....15:17 to paris....
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dsmith wrote:
I am super pumped..but not really.... to see clint eastwoods ....15:17 to paris....
I saw it. It's no bueno.
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I saw Maze Runner 1 and Maze Runner 2 over the weekend and actually liked it. The first was better then the second. Acting isn’t the greatest but the story is kinda of interesting. My kids all loved it. The third and I believe last Maze Runner is in theaters now.
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dsmith wrote:
I am super pumped..but not really.... to see clint eastwoods ....15:17 to paris....
GD2 wrote:
I saw it. It's no bueno.
bum deal ...
why?..was it just totally stupid?
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2/14/2018 1:31pm Edited Date/Time 2/14/2018 1:32pm
dsmith wrote:
I am super pumped..but not really.... to see clint eastwoods ....15:17 to paris....
GD2 wrote:
I saw it. It's no bueno.
dsmith wrote:
bum deal ...
why?..was it just totally stupid?
I never understood why it was going to be made into a movie to begin with. It's a heroic event but there wasn't a whole lot to it. They saw a guy who was about to shoot up a train and took him down. 90% of the movie is pointless (and frankly boring), and then the last 10 minutes or so is the event.
2/14/2018 8:48pm
The Game of Thrones creators are set to write their own trilogy set in the Star Wars universe. Looking forward to it. The best Star Wars flicks tend to be darker (Empire Strikes Back, Rouge One).
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Watched Beyond Skyline today and it was actually a pretty good sci-fi flick.
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Watched City of Ember. It wasn’t too bad. Started to come off the rails a bit towards the end but overall it was pretty decent.
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My son and I went to the Black Panther movie. It wasn't bad but the whole time I was watching it I was thinking to myself that this is a set up movie for a series of them.

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