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How childish is it to say someone's "opinion" is clueless when they don't even use reading comprehension.
Also, some people like to customize different brands. Just like in need for speed or gran turismo. You're customizing real cars because it's fun. All this included with no extra fee. But, if you don't enjoy that, you don't see the big deal. And there's nothing wrong with that.
I'm hoping that Milestone will eventually have the support from MX Sports, Lucas Oil, etc. and be able to release an official AMA Motocross game.
I got nothing against the MXGP series but since I don't follow it I would personally prefer to play a game with the US tracks since I follow that series and can relate to it more.
How many would skip the MXGP game if there was an AMA version? I'm sure some are playing it because it's their only option.
And as Mav stated, two completely different approaches and two completely different split down the middle preferences by fans. It’s almost like the Pro Bowl vs a regular season game. In a regular season NFL game you’re going to get very serious precise, professional play - whereas in the Pro Bowl you’re going to get more fun flowing and loose play. Fundamentals are the same, just different. Might be a dumb analogy, might not. Either way, the last two installments have been completely unacceptable in any regard.
Something else to think about. If Nordic, THQ, whoever is running this shit these days. If they attempted to do what Milestone did I firmly believe their company would go right back out of business because that would just be giving the axe to a culmination of 15 years of the model that they’ve built upon. They will always be forced to build a game that attempts to have a balance between the two audiences as long as they’re advertising under the MX/MX vs ATV branding. Now if they rebranded under a new title, then all would be completely open regarding direction.
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How did you come up with that assumption???
Would you continue playing old games by yourself with no support from the developer because they've moved on to newer things? Repeating the career mode for the millionth time?
I played mx sim for 1,5 years straight and i really like the idea that you cant ride as fast with an auto as with a manual.
Another thing is one of the reasons why i dont like the mxgp genre, when i play a game, i play because i usually cant do any of it in real life.
Kill nazi zombies? 360 flip a skateboard down 15 stairs? No fucking doo in RL.
But the thought of a game where i have more "control" in real life, where i can whip, wheelie, wheeltap and scrub to mention a few things better if i load up my bike and go to the local track kinda bums me out.
Sure, i would probably die if i went out on a full size Sx track, balls out right away trying to 180 whip a triple, but do you get what im saying?
MXGP2 is my favorite from that series, by far. looking forward to their Supercross game.
as for MX vs ATV, i'm completely on board with what i've seen. the MXGP games just aren't that FUN to me. they're ok to play a couple hours at a time, but the fun factor just isn't there. just my opinion.
MX vs ATV has a lot more excitement to it – albeit a bit more unrealistic – I think that's why we play video games. Reminds me a lot more of the fun I used to have with MCM1 & 2.
i maxed my bikes out, on realistic setting, etc.
it's only so much fun doing the same thing over and over again, which is what this series provides unfortunately.
the track editor on the MES game is going to be cool, hopefully add replayability to the game at least
I then tried to mix it up with the race lengths and I actually enjoyed runnin the 20 lappers but I'd give them a massive head start and try to chase em down.. the longer races were actually a bit more 'realistic' in that one guy would usually get out to a lead and was a bit harder to get to..
Should mention again that I can't use the 'body' toggle cause of my hands so it's a little bit harder for me to play which might help with finding it harder to beat the AI
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i get it. it does get more boring then mxvsatv has even tho i think gp3 is a better game
that’s why when people get excited about these “movie clips” in the new sx game before the race starts or whatever, the clips that they are going to show before the race starts or after it ends, the opening ceremonies and that sorts of things.
that will be cool like 10 times maybe and then i’ll be pressing X to get straight to the game. that’s why i’m not the biggest fan of replica games because when they present this “show” before and after each race or whatever it gets old and you end up skipping through it. i don’t understand how some of you are so hyped on this sorts of thing. do you not see yourself getting bored of the rider riding onto the stage and throwing his hands up in the “opening ceremonies”? when you try to replicate an exact event, something is bound to fall through and feel off and then i get the feeling that it’s cheesy
as much as i know i’m going to love the new sx game, i really think mxvsatv is going to win with physics and longevity. they don’t try to replicate anything. i would much rather race on made made moto tracks then an anaheim 2 replica sx track. think about how many sick tracks you remember from unleashed untamed and reflex
I can't get over how some just don't want a game that replicates our sport like Madden, NBA2k does. I mean, if you were an avid football fan, would you want to play a game with some real players but not all of them, no real arenas, no real teams, no real uniforms and no full season schedule? That would kill it for me. That's my approach to it and why an authentic game is so important to me. I don't get why a fan of our sport would want anything but that.
The excitement of playing thru season mode with qualifiers, heats, semis, the pressure of lcqs and full mains in a season mode on real tracks with real riders and bikes....well, that just is what a sports game should be. That's where it's at for me. All Out offers basically none of that so that's why it's not that important to me.
But again, everyone is different. I just think in Monster Energy Supercross we are finally getting a SX game that will offer what most major sports franchises do. With All Out, we get free control but more than likely just exaggerated style racing, exhibition one off races and more varied riding environments. But I basically play these games for MX and SX. Hate free riding and waypoint. Did like Untamed's Endurocross, though.
Also they need to make them have more consistent results regularly the top guys are backpackers which just means you dominate the points
I'm fairly addicted to Dirt Rally and I can remember early on thinking to myself "well that's just dumb, so they've just made it impossible to win? how is that fun?" but what do you know here I am still playing it everyday and winning haha
This whole argument actually parallels the golf games. There's the official PGA games by EA sports, then there's the more grass roots Golf Club 2. I love TGC2, but I miss the authenticity of the EA games.
With Milestone having a track editor I think it'll help with re-playability but at the end of the day you're still riding supercross constantly. To me that can get a little old. I like watching supercross but by the end of March I'm ready for outdoors.
With MX vs ATV you'll have a mix of different stuff to do which in my opinion will make it more fun to play. Bored with outdoors go ride supercross, bored with supercross go ride some waypoint races, bored of that go fuck around with a buggy, etc.
Waypoint is boring, free riding as well. There's nothing slow or technical which makes it all just wfo, boring stuff to me.
Now Endurocross was a different story. A full series of that would have me interested. It was slower, more technical and a lot.of fun in Untamed for those 2 tracks.
Dude, the Dirt games are so hard. I have Dirt 4 and it's ridiculous how technical it is. I'm not even on the hardest setting and it gets so intense. When I got the game, I beat it on the default setting and said there's no way I am going to be able to move this setting up. Now here I am trying to beat the game on 2 settings harder. I love it.
I couldn't agree more. There's no reason why you couldn't replicate our sport AND have a fun game. SX racing is exciting, but our sport isn't only about showing up to race SX. There's training, off events, play riding, modifying your bike, track building, all sorts of things.
One of the most important things in a career mode is challenging realistic AI. There needs to be a difficulty setting option that requires near-perfect with little mistakes to win the championship. The AI needs to be consistent where top guys are always up front (unless they get taken out). This of course could be optional, but if you win a championship on this difficulty it unlocks something players will want.
Another important thing is variety. Anything can and does happen in racing. In career mode, adding injuries and mechanicals option would break up some of the monotony. It would also require you think before you try something stupid. If your six races into a perfect season, are you going to try jumping a long triple from an inside corner, etc.?
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