James Stewart is NOT a great racer.

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RandyS wrote:
He has proven it time and time again. He may be one of or the fastest rider ever but there's a reason he has crashed in...
He has proven it time and time again. He may be one of or the fastest rider ever but there's a reason he has crashed in every race he hasn't won. Pressure him and he cracks, give him an open track and he wins. Exceptional rider, but great racer he is not. RC, MC,RJ, DB,.............all superior. Bring it on.
What an idiot... So he has fallen one race out of the season on his own, big deal? I can remember RC tossin it in SX plenty.
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RandyS wrote:
He has proven it time and time again. He may be one of or the fastest rider ever but there's a reason he has crashed in...
He has proven it time and time again. He may be one of or the fastest rider ever but there's a reason he has crashed in every race he hasn't won. Pressure him and he cracks, give him an open track and he wins. Exceptional rider, but great racer he is not. RC, MC,RJ, DB,.............all superior. Bring it on.
What an idiot... So he has fallen one race out of the season on his own, big deal? I can remember RC tossin it in SX plenty.
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2/28/2009 9:25pm Edited Date/Time 2/28/2009 9:49pm
I pulled the post. I thought it was too good to get lost in this.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
You don't win all those races and all those title without being a great racer. Give it up, your post was stupid.
Motodude wrote:
Thanks for acknowledging Chads performances. You are right he cant win all those championships in adverse circumstances without being a great racer, not just a great...
Thanks for acknowledging Chads performances. You are right he cant win all those championships in adverse circumstances without being a great racer, not just a great rider..
WhKnuckle wrote:
Chad? There's nothing in this thread about Chad. You must be in the wrong thread.
Just out of curiosity.... What is it that you dislike about CR and that you love so much about JBS? I am not bustin' nuts... I really want to know.

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The problem is not with JS, the problem are his fans, every time I read the internet I dislike him more, and he doesn't even have anything to do with this, isn't it funny?
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The problem is not with JS, the problem are his fans, every time I read the internet I dislike him more, and he doesn't even have...
The problem is not with JS, the problem are his fans, every time I read the internet I dislike him more, and he doesn't even have anything to do with this, isn't it funny?
So if he doesn't have anything to do with this, then how can you hate him? What a stupid fucking thing to say. Fuck I'm so wasted right now, and I don't even think I could say something that moronic.
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Just out of curiosity.... What is it that you dislike about CR and that you love so much about JBS? I am not bustin' nuts... I...
Just out of curiosity.... What is it that you dislike about CR and that you love so much about JBS? I am not bustin' nuts... I really want to know.
Good question.

Knuckle ... you have some personal issues with Chad? You come off as totally biased and just another Reed hater / Bubba worshipper.

When RC was spanking JS you were all over Stewart for riding over his head, making up excuses, crashing, landing on other riders, etc. Now that RC is gone, Stewart can suddenly do no wrong? And Reed can do no right ... even when he wins straight up?

Why don't you guys just let them race and appreciate each one's talents on the track. The "my guy is better than your guy" shite makes you guys all look like little children.

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Randy S/ Grass valley? Go figure
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mmcmx wrote:
The problem is not with JS, the problem are his fans, every time I read the internet I dislike him more, and he doesn't even have...
The problem is not with JS, the problem are his fans, every time I read the internet I dislike him more, and he doesn't even have anything to do with this, isn't it funny?
Jarid332 wrote:
So if he doesn't have anything to do with this, then how can you hate him? What a stupid fucking thing to say. Fuck I'm so...
So if he doesn't have anything to do with this, then how can you hate him? What a stupid fucking thing to say. Fuck I'm so wasted right now, and I don't even think I could say something that moronic.
Actually his point was dead-on.

Anybody that rides or watches the sport appreciates Stewart's ability on a bike ... but it's that stupid-fock segment of his fans that won't STFU about how great he is that people are sick of.

Newsflash - JS doesn't need your help. His riding speaks for itself. All you're really doing is causing him minor grief on the internet.

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hey BL you still clicked from here? man, what did you do!
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Shocker wrote:
Just out of curiosity.... What is it that you dislike about CR and that you love so much about JBS? I am not bustin' nuts... I...
Just out of curiosity.... What is it that you dislike about CR and that you love so much about JBS? I am not bustin' nuts... I really want to know.
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Good question. Knuckle ... you have some personal issues with Chad? You come off as totally biased and just another Reed hater / Bubba worshipper. When...
Good question.

Knuckle ... you have some personal issues with Chad? You come off as totally biased and just another Reed hater / Bubba worshipper.

When RC was spanking JS you were all over Stewart for riding over his head, making up excuses, crashing, landing on other riders, etc. Now that RC is gone, Stewart can suddenly do no wrong? And Reed can do no right ... even when he wins straight up?

Why don't you guys just let them race and appreciate each one's talents on the track. The "my guy is better than your guy" shite makes you guys all look like little children.

Funny you say that, people used to think I hated James because I said I didn't think James could beat RC outdoors. Now people say I hate Reed because I point out that he has never, not one time, shown that he had the speed to beat James in SX. Those are simple historical observations.

I don't hate Reed or ANY rider, not even Lawrence (who I just pity). In fact, Reed used to be my son's favorite rider, and I have respect for the fact that Reed didn't get anything handed to him in this sport - he went out and worked hard for what he has. But Reed has never shown the heart to race with RC or James.

I really didn't like Stewart's childish "look at me" program early in his career, but he has never backed down from anyone. He probably took 5 years off his career trying to beat RC outdoors and never gave up. And from his first days in the 450 class, he left it all out on the track trying to beat the best - first RC and now Reed. Reed doesn't even try to out-race Stewart - his whole program is to hope Stewart hands it to him. You can call that strategy if you want, but it sounds a lot like a guy who won't take on the best rider and beat him. If you want to be a really good rider, that's a fine way to ride. If you want to be the best ever, then you have to at least beat the best of your time. So Reed is a really good rider and maybe even a great rider, but, on a comparative level, Reed has never been better than the second best rider in the sport in his own time. That's not hating, that's observing.
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jbomx363 wrote:
Stewart said himself, he's going to crash or win. So what's the big deal?

I'd rather see that than any "playing it safe for the title" BS.
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Motodude wrote:
Thanks for acknowledging Chads performances. You are right he cant win all those championships in adverse circumstances without being a great racer, not just a great...
Thanks for acknowledging Chads performances. You are right he cant win all those championships in adverse circumstances without being a great racer, not just a great rider..
neysbo wrote:
lets see how many outdoor AMA National MX titles has Chad won ?????
Motodude wrote:
Lets see how many times James has been out of his comfortable local surroundings to improve his racing career. ZERO and it shows.
I dont think there is a record book for that......or a fan who cares about that either.
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This is one dumb ass thread!Whistling
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This is one dumb ass thread!Whistling
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mmcmx wrote:
The problem is not with JS, the problem are his fans, every time I read the internet I dislike him more, and he doesn't even have...
The problem is not with JS, the problem are his fans, every time I read the internet I dislike him more, and he doesn't even have anything to do with this, isn't it funny?
Jarid332 wrote:
So if he doesn't have anything to do with this, then how can you hate him? What a stupid fucking thing to say. Fuck I'm so...
So if he doesn't have anything to do with this, then how can you hate him? What a stupid fucking thing to say. Fuck I'm so wasted right now, and I don't even think I could say something that moronic.
race wrote:
Actually his point was dead-on. Anybody that rides or watches the sport appreciates Stewart's ability on a bike ... but it's that stupid-fock segment of his...
Actually his point was dead-on.

Anybody that rides or watches the sport appreciates Stewart's ability on a bike ... but it's that stupid-fock segment of his fans that won't STFU about how great he is that people are sick of.

Newsflash - JS doesn't need your help. His riding speaks for itself. All you're really doing is causing him minor grief on the internet.

Actually, vice-versa. CR's rabid aussie asshats turn more people off of Reed than Reed does.
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I think James is a great racer. RC was the best "racer" ever IMO, but James leaves it all on the track. I suppose that he's not "great" in Randy's eyes because he wins with such ease most of the time. Yes, he is naturally talented, but he's worked incredibly hard to put himself in this position.

As far as poise goes, I think Vegas 07 was a very impressive ride for James. RC and Reed were bike lengths behind for 20 laps, yet James held it together on that skating rink. Very impressive.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
You don't win all those races and all those title without being a great racer. Give it up, your post was stupid.
Motodude wrote:
Thanks for acknowledging Chads performances. You are right he cant win all those championships in adverse circumstances without being a great racer, not just a great...
Thanks for acknowledging Chads performances. You are right he cant win all those championships in adverse circumstances without being a great racer, not just a great rider..
neysbo wrote:
lets see how many outdoor AMA National MX titles has Chad won ?????
Did CR even win a world title? I thought not!
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3/1/2009 11:16am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:43pm
By the way, I don't think Reed is anywhere near the greatest "racer" ever either. He's a great chaser but seems to lose focus a little when unchallenged. Like James he is head and shoulders above the rest of the field in speed. He did it in 2007 when James dropped out, and even though I haven't seen the race it seems like maybe that happened a little last night when he had a 7 sec lead. I hope that got it out of his system because I expect him to win Daytona.


Never once on this site have I attacked any rider, this is a motocross site and motocross has fans. Discussing the good and bad of your favorite teams/drives/riders/players is part of being a fan. I'm here as a fan. One of the replies said I'd never say it to his face. Why do I need to, and why would he care. I've been on these boards since 1995, same name, never had an alias. I'm not hard to find.


If I had to pick my current top 5 riders James would be one of them, I wish he was a little better racer and a little slower rider. I'd really like to see him get beat after a 20 lap battle and I'd really like to see him win after a 20 lap battle.


If I had to pick my favorite motocross fans, one of them would be my nephew who stood in line to get his favorite rider James Stewarts autograph @ San Francisco and sent me photos of it every step of the way even though I was only a few trucks over part of the time. But the bottom of the list would be dominated by James Stewart fans also. Many of them post on this board.


Let me give this one more shot for those who can't get it. Take these in comparison to the elites of the sport. I'm not comparing anyone to Joe Weekend at Goat Valley raceway.


RC=Became a great rider/Became the greatest racer ever.

Jeff Stanton=Always only a good rider, never great/But a seriously great racer.

James Stewart=Always been a great rider, maybe the best ever/Still only a good racer compared to his riding talent.


Meth? lol, I don't even drink.
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3/1/2009 11:29am Edited Date/Time 3/1/2009 11:35am
Motodude wrote:
Thanks for acknowledging Chads performances. You are right he cant win all those championships in adverse circumstances without being a great racer, not just a great...
Thanks for acknowledging Chads performances. You are right he cant win all those championships in adverse circumstances without being a great racer, not just a great rider..
neysbo wrote:
lets see how many outdoor AMA National MX titles has Chad won ?????
wavslide wrote:
Did CR even win a world title? I thought not!
As a matter of fact yes he did, twice.

1999-Australian Supercross Champion
2000-Australian Supercross Champion
2001-2nd in 250cc Motocross World Championship
2002-AMA 125cc West Coast Champion
2003-World Supercross GP Champion
2004-AMA Supercross Champion
2008-World Supercross GP Champion
2008-AMA Supercross Champion
2008-Australian Supercross Champion
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I wonder if wavslide meant a GP world outdoor title?

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RandyS wrote:
He has proven it time and time again. He may be one of or the fastest rider ever but there's a reason he has crashed in...
He has proven it time and time again. He may be one of or the fastest rider ever but there's a reason he has crashed in every race he hasn't won. Pressure him and he cracks, give him an open track and he wins. Exceptional rider, but great racer he is not. RC, MC,RJ, DB,.............all superior. Bring it on.
STFU. James Stewart is a beast on any track he rides on. He has a win or crash trying attitude, and your saying that makes him a inferior racer? You are a fucking idiot. He pours his heart out every race, in a sport where you make a mistake and it could be fatal. and if you can't appreciate that then get the fuck out of motocross because we don't need you.
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STFU. James Stewart is a beast on any track he rides on. He has a win or crash trying attitude, and your saying that makes him...
STFU. James Stewart is a beast on any track he rides on. He has a win or crash trying attitude, and your saying that makes him a inferior racer? You are a fucking idiot. He pours his heart out every race, in a sport where you make a mistake and it could be fatal. and if you can't appreciate that then get the fuck out of motocross because we don't need you.
The list grows longer. Welcome.
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Stewart has 2 outdoor 125 titles, two 125 SX titles, two 450 World SX titles, one 450 SX AMA title, and one outdoor 450 title. That's...
Stewart has 2 outdoor 125 titles, two 125 SX titles, two 450 World SX titles, one 450 SX AMA title, and one outdoor 450 title. That's great compared to anyone other than RC.
RandyS wrote:
I never once said he was not a champion. I said he is one of if not the fastest rider ever. Still doesn't make him a...
I never once said he was not a champion. I said he is one of if not the fastest rider ever. Still doesn't make him a great racer. It makes him a rider who has consistently been faster than the competition, that has allowed him to overcome rarely winning when a competitor challenges him.
He was the only rider to step up to the goat. You sound like a clown. Sure, yea James Stewart is not a great racer. wow
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I have been doing Mx since 1975 and James is the fastest rider I have seen! so STFU.
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I have been doing Mx since 1975 and James is the fastest rider I have seen! so STFU.
Do any of you fucksticks read the posts before you open your traps. Holy shit, it's like criticizing the Obama or fighting with a Palin hater.

This place truly has become ronron. Seriously
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We read your posts. I dont understand how you can say that the leader of our sport is not a great racer. The guy goes out and kicks everyones ass every single weekend. He is racing against guys who have put in 100% since day 1. But then you have fucks like yourself who downgrade a rider because he doesn't meet your expectations. You have to be kidding me. The guy IS a great racer. He could walk away from the sport right now and should receive nothing but praise. Go re read the title of the thread you posted jackass

p.s. your little comparison about being a great rider vs a great racer is bullshit. The proof is in the pudding. The man is out there every weekend racing against the elite of our time. Ronnie renner is a great rider, nate adams is a great rider, james stewart is a great racer. dont get it twisted
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We read your posts. I dont understand how you can say that the leader of our sport is not a great racer. The guy goes out...
We read your posts. I dont understand how you can say that the leader of our sport is not a great racer. The guy goes out and kicks everyones ass every single weekend. He is racing against guys who have put in 100% since day 1. But then you have fucks like yourself who downgrade a rider because he doesn't meet your expectations. You have to be kidding me. The guy IS a great racer. He could walk away from the sport right now and should receive nothing but praise. Go re read the title of the thread you posted jackass

p.s. your little comparison about being a great rider vs a great racer is bullshit. The proof is in the pudding. The man is out there every weekend racing against the elite of our time. Ronnie renner is a great rider, nate adams is a great rider, james stewart is a great racer. dont get it twisted
The title was jackass fishing. Caught my limit.
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So you posted that for attention then? are you 5 years old? You know riders whom many of you degrade/ put down/ talk shit about read these forums right? Act your age not your shoe size

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