Short, Villopoto, Stewart test clean - No Dope

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Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 11:28pm
Good for the sport.

Anti-doping controls were carried out at the AMA Supercross, an FIM World Championship meeting held in San Francisco (USA) on January 31.

Neither prohibited substances nor markers of the use of prohibited methods were found in the tested samples.

The riders controlled were : Andrew SHORT (USA), James STEWART (USA), Ryan VILLOPOTO (USA).

http://www.racerxonline.com/...isco-supercross.aspx
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2/26/2009 12:34pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:40pm
Well this should shut some up!
But again, they need to do it more often,
unannounced, & to all, "Lites/250F" guys
too. Again, they're a "Factory Class" too,
regardless of the grammar of it all.
It's time has come.
Like sound & or anything else the press or
public say, it's everywhere in other sports,
so it needs to be here to I believe.
"Keep it safe, clean & keep it right".
Dave O.Wink
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2/26/2009 12:42pm
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Moto547
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2/26/2009 12:56pm
hahaaaa. 75% of the lites guys
would get in trouble. guaranteed.
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KAWboy14 wrote:
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Those system cleans dont work on a true test done at a lab. They only sometimes fool the cheap tests . The good tests are sent to a lab and they test for all the different chemicals and cover ups that are in those tests. They also test the samples if they come up negative they will dip a card into the cups that contain certain types of substances . If they come up negative again they know you used something to cover it up and they will do more tests to determine exactly what you used. Smile

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Moto547 wrote:
hahaaaa. 75% of the lites guys
would get in trouble. guaranteed.
You guarantee that ? You must be pretty busy traveling around the country smoking dope with all these riders while they are at there test tracks...


I thought you all had some of the cleanest water on the planet out there in Montana. Cool
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2/26/2009 1:18pm
Thats really good new for our sport! Wonder if they will anonymously select Jlaw to test at the next round for performance enhancement.... errrr... performance "compromising substances"
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KAWboy14 wrote:
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mcphilly wrote:
Those system cleans dont work on a true test done at a lab. They only sometimes fool the cheap tests . The good tests are sent...
Those system cleans dont work on a true test done at a lab. They only sometimes fool the cheap tests . The good tests are sent to a lab and they test for all the different chemicals and cover ups that are in those tests. They also test the samples if they come up negative they will dip a card into the cups that contain certain types of substances . If they come up negative again they know you used something to cover it up and they will do more tests to determine exactly what you used. Smile
They work for many recreational drugs...
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KAWboy14 wrote:
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mcphilly wrote:
Those system cleans dont work on a true test done at a lab. They only sometimes fool the cheap tests . The good tests are sent...
Those system cleans dont work on a true test done at a lab. They only sometimes fool the cheap tests . The good tests are sent to a lab and they test for all the different chemicals and cover ups that are in those tests. They also test the samples if they come up negative they will dip a card into the cups that contain certain types of substances . If they come up negative again they know you used something to cover it up and they will do more tests to determine exactly what you used. Smile
ktmdan wrote:
They work for many recreational drugs...
Not if they are sent to a lab that is worth a shit. They will fool the cheap tests like the ones you get for work and low budget treatment centers. They will not fool a lab test .
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this is good news! I agree they should test 250 guys also though.
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anybody that thought they may have tested positive are idiots
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2/26/2009 2:21pm
peelout719 wrote:
anybody that thought they may have tested positive are idiots
Amen.
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2/26/2009 2:37pm
peelout719 wrote:
anybody that thought they may have tested positive are idiots
andymoto wrote:
Amen.
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They can't afford tests to find HGH.
I'm not sure they can even afford tests to check the correct T/Epi ratios.

It's not cheap.
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How well were the tests done? Which guidelines did they follow? I know in cycling, for a long time a lot of riders were able to trick the drug tests. Just saying they passed, doesn't necessarily mean they did. I would like some more information about the test before I have 100% faith in the results.
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2/26/2009 5:34pm
How old is Villopoto? Does he even need anything like that? Hell I would think a bowl of coco crispies must send that kid on a sugar high til next month.
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Um, not to be accusatory or anything, but what exactly did they test for? What is considered a banned substance in AMA SX/MX?

EPO? HGH? More information is definitely needed here. Maybe the test was essentially for recreational drugs, which we shouldn't be surprised at all is a negative.
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As long as the FIM doesn't start testing people on this site...we'll be safe.
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Ozzy wrote:
Well this should shut some up! But again, they need to do it more often, unannounced, & to all, "Lites/250F" guys too. Again, they're a "Factory...
Well this should shut some up!
But again, they need to do it more often,
unannounced, & to all, "Lites/250F" guys
too. Again, they're a "Factory Class" too,
regardless of the grammar of it all.
It's time has come.
Like sound & or anything else the press or
public say, it's everywhere in other sports,
so it needs to be here to I believe.
"Keep it safe, clean & keep it right".
Dave O.Wink
I could have sworn that just the other day you were one of the chaps on here saying that they SHOULDN'T do any testing. Did I imagine that?

Oh and you're right, this "test" obviously proves, without a hint of doubt, that there is absolutely not even a single rider anywhere on the planet that would test positive for any types of drugs.

Well, maybe they would over in Europe but that's only because they're not Americans. Obviously, us Americans don't need to "cheat" to win. We're all clean as a whistle.

That whole Olympic swimmer guy was just a fluke. In fact, I heard through the grapevine that he isn't even a real American and that he's actually from Austrailia or something like that.
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Tiki wrote:
How old is Villopoto? Does he even need anything like that? Hell I would think a bowl of coco crispies must send that kid on a...
How old is Villopoto? Does he even need anything like that? Hell I would think a bowl of coco crispies must send that kid on a sugar high til next month.
haha.. i wouldnt doubt it....
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2/26/2009 8:32pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2009 8:34pm
mike868y wrote:
How well were the tests done? Which guidelines did they follow? I know in cycling, for a long time a lot of riders were able to...
How well were the tests done? Which guidelines did they follow? I know in cycling, for a long time a lot of riders were able to trick the drug tests. Just saying they passed, doesn't necessarily mean they did. I would like some more information about the test before I have 100% faith in the results.
Mike,

If you follow some of the links here, you'll have a lot better understanding of it.

http://www.vitalmx.com/...s-to-Supercross,2981

Also, I shook my e-mail box, and that press release didn't fall out. Maybe it got stuck in with some junk mail?
2/26/2009 8:40pm
Sledneck wrote:
They can't afford tests to find HGH.
I'm not sure they can even afford tests to check the correct T/Epi ratios.

It's not cheap.
I would guess no but hope that they can.
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2/26/2009 8:59pm
Yeah. The bike does all the work.
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I'm just waiting for kalisch to weigh in. The guy knows things.
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Jesus i hope your joking.......
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jeffro503 wrote:
Jesus i hope your joking.......
Lol! Ya the bike does all the work for you right... I've heard that shit so many times it makes me sick.
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2/27/2009 1:37am Edited Date/Time 2/27/2009 1:39am
mike868y wrote:
How well were the tests done? Which guidelines did they follow? I know in cycling, for a long time a lot of riders were able to...
How well were the tests done? Which guidelines did they follow? I know in cycling, for a long time a lot of riders were able to trick the drug tests. Just saying they passed, doesn't necessarily mean they did. I would like some more information about the test before I have 100% faith in the results.
GuyB wrote:
Mike,If you follow some of the links here, you'll have a lot better understanding of it.http://www.vitalmx.com/...s-to-Supercross,2981Also, I shook my e-mail box, and that press...
Mike,

If you follow some of the links here, you'll have a lot better understanding of it.

http://www.vitalmx.com/...s-to-Supercross,2981

Also, I shook my e-mail box, and that press release didn't fall out. Maybe it got stuck in with some junk mail?
hmm, the links are bad, I can't get the list of banned drugs.


...as for Ozzy saying this should shut people up, how does one test prove anything at all? especially since they all knew it was comming? This type of testing is just like the UFC, a joke! Athletes cycle on and off... all it takes is a little timing and ya never test positive, and we all know trainers have this down to a science... literaly. Sure we all wanna believe our beloved sport is one of the few clean ones, but there's no point jumping to premature conclusions.
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better masking agents
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2/27/2009 5:26am
didn't they know when and where the tests would be?

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2/27/2009 5:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:40pm
Since they knew it was coming? They have 60 minutes and they chaperoned during the 60 minutes correct? Be hard to cheat unless you do so every race in anticipation of being tested.

From GuyB's link...

These chaperones notify the riders of the impending test, have them sign the appropriate forms, and then accompany them throughout the process. The riders have 60 minutes from notification for post-race cooldown, podium appearances, and for interview time with the media. Riders can be selected based on results, or as random selections.

Also, these guys aren't going to a doc in the box for a pre-employment weed, blow, X, and crank urine dip test...

The USADA is recognized as the official anti-doping agency in the U.S., and they handle anti-doping watchdog duties for U.S. athletes competing in the Olympic, Pan-Am, and Paralympic sports.

For all the meatheads that said "anybody that thought they would test positive are idiots" are speculative morons. How the hell would YOU know? Unless you train with James and Aldon Baker or Ryan and Randy Lawrence...you don't know crapola.

And I think Ozzy's correct quote was "shut some up."

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