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I've seen better flagging at local races.
I think in Motocross AMA should be more professional as well with the flaggers.
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In Supercross the Feld Track crew (DigDougs) are there to get the down bikes out of the track quickly and to control the situation rapidly. But a football field is way easier to manage than a whole valley.
The flagger at the top of the jump has a yellow flag and a blue flag. After Cole crashed he did exactly fuck all, he should have been flying the yellow flag, period. This is the only error in this racing incident that I see.
Hoping for a quick recovery for Cole.
he took a big digger to the head. he was on the side of the track just thinking what the f*ck just happened. not a good feeling when your going into cranial meltdown mode. hope hes ok, and hope he takes his time on the comeback. no shame in taking a few rounds off to get your head cleared.
everytime ive gotten a concussion, a week or two later i feel like im fine, but then two months later i look back at that moment when i thought i was fine, and you realise that you were definitely not fine
Shit, even the guy at Colorado was doing that.
My opinion would be approximately 25% of the flaggers around the country put in a below par effort, and that same percentage over achieve but rarely get noticed.
That said, it's a crappy job that doesn't pay much "and they have hundreds of bosses all the way around the track" at the amateur level.
It's doubtful the pay increases exponentially at the pro level "and in addition to those fans around the track, these dudes have to put up with all the key board warriors on line". There's a pre-race educational get together and everyone heads out for their day in the stand, if they have one.
They don't have only one job, but I don't blame you for the lack of education and knowledge.
The yellow flag has so little meaning at that level, they could "almost" be done away with.
By the way, for all those people proposing there should be professional flaggers hired for the series, I'd ask that you briefly put a pencil to that from an expense side, and come back with categories and numbers, as well as who pays that bill?
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this stuff is getting old.
still ragging on the flagger at thunder valley who WAS waving his flag vigorously.
tired of hearing about nick wey saving the day when he got there after all but 5 or 6 back markers had gone by and then did something that flaggers are specifically told NOT TO DO for a very good reason.
Now we are getting percentages like they have done some kind of algorithm or crunched data.
here is one for you then, figured scientifically with help from friends at MIT,
71.66789898 % of you NBC Gold couch experts are clueless, and of those, 29.45672 % are just plain full of BS.
give it a rest guys.
that they are past the incident and can speed back up confusing the situation. He could point where to go but not wave it. Technically the flagger in the tower was in the wrong for waving the yellow in that spot (he was probably waving his flag before call came in to display the "wheels on the ground" so all good.
Keep in mind this video and the one in Colorado were taken from the opposite direction from the riders view.
There is a flagging system in place that works very well. All flaggers go through a mandatory training session
where the first thing explained is to keep your self safe and how to wave the flag. Hold it out if not a serious issue and waving should be proportionate to the seriousness of the incident. There are a number of AMA personnel stationed around the track and they are the ones to assist on the track while the track flaggers are to maintain their position and keep flagging.
I have personally stepped in to the track to do a better job and it doesn't take long to realize it wasn't a good idea. The riders are pro and there is a good chance they wanted the last foot of track I was standing in.
Like most things there is a human element and mistakes get made and things get hectic track side. Give it a try sometime you will gain a whole new perspective on how things are run at a national.
"White and Red Stripe Flag (“Wheels on the Ground” Flag): Indicates a potentially hazardous situation
on or near the racetrack in an area that is not clearly visible to on-coming riders. Riders must proceed
with extreme caution. Both wheels of the motorcycle must remain on the ground over obstacles until the
rider has passed the area of concern. Passing is NOT allowed. This flag takes precedence over all other
flags that may be displayed. Penalty for violation of the flag may include but not be limited to, loss of
championship point(s) and/or race position(s), as determined by the Race Director."
In short; you see the red cross flag you keep it wheels on the ground, ride with extreme caution, and no passing until you see and clear the incident. I feel adding yellow flags directly after the red cross flag would have lead the riders to believe they passed the "wheels on the ground zone" and thus increase their speed and attempt to make passes.
As far as the placement of the red flag on the first table, no, it's not ideal (and they should have had another red cross flag on the second), but again the rules are defined as "go slow as fuck until you see why we are flagging". Clearly the riders could see that nothing happened after the first table so they (according to the rules) should have continued to go slow over the second table until they rolled upon the incident.
The rules are pretty well defined when it comes to this.
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