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Edited Date/Time 1/23/2012 2:32am
$18 million in gross revenues for the first year is pretty good-- but you gotta hire a lot of lawyers.

Are they being sued by State of California? (this is edited version)


FY2007/FY2006 Financial Results: FY2007 and FY 2006 financial results are posted on our Web Site at http://www.leatt-corp.com. Below is a summary of these results. In FY2007, our first year of full operations, we produced net income of $1,946,330 on operating income of $6,667,760 and gross revenues of $18,317,382. Our operating profit margin in FY2007 was 37%. Since these results represent our first operational year and are based on two variations of the same product, we are very pleased with the outcome. With an expanded product line and increased marketing efforts last year, we expect our FY2008 results to reflect further progress in growing the company, despite the economic upset of the past several months. We are also introducing SAP Business One as our accounting and database tool and are enhancing our accounting and financial capabilities in general.


Litigation Updates: We have spent considerable time and resources to produce an innovative neck brace technology that has been proven in the field. The Company has patent coverage and other registered IP rights around the globe. We have previously announced that we would aggressively litigate to protect our patents and intellectual property rights. Earlier this year we settled an infringement matter in the United Kingdom; we cannot divulge details of the settlement since it is subject to a confidentiality agreement, however the competitor (FRO Systems) was prevented from entering the market place (See the press release at: http://www.leatt-corp.com/).


We have engaged Connelly Bove Lodge & Hutz LLP as our IP law firm to assist in our ongoing efforts to protect our valuable IP in the USA.


The Company has recently withdrawn its patent infringement suit against Alpinestars S.P.A. and Alpinestars USA Inc. ("Alpinestars"), even though we believe we have a strong case. The Company believes that it should focus its efforts on promoting the Leatt-Brace® Neck Brace System in the United States, rather than on litigating this infringement claim. The Company withdrew its suit without prejudice, thus preserving its future right to refile the case against Alpinestars, and as a result of the companies accretion that the Alpinestars product would not enjoy commercial success (See the press release at: http://www.leatt-corp.com/).


Before consumers consider competing products, they should consider the actual testing and track record of the neck brace in question. We are confident that such a comparison will result in the purchase of the Leatt-Brace®.


On December 11, 2008, a South African court granted the Company's motion for restraining order against two former Company employees, which order temporarily restrains the former employees from commercial exploitation of Leatt-Brace® Moto-R Prototype 2 and disclosure of related proprietary information. The Company is pursuing a permanent injunction against the two former employees as well as other relief. The Company alleges that the two former employees are seeking to sell a neck brace based on the Leatt-Brace® Moto-R Prototype 2 neck brace through a California company and in violation of the Company's proprietary rights.


Recently the Company was named as one of twelve defendants in a California state court lawsuit. The claim is for alleged product defects and breach of product warranties. The Company believes the claims are without merit and will vigorously defend against this action.


The Company announced that Leatt and Pro Tork, a Brazilian manufacturer of racing equipment, have reached a settlement of their dispute over the alleged infringement by Pro Tork of Leatt's intellectual property rights in Brazil. Leatt had brought action against Pro Tork for the alleged infringement by Pro Tork's Neck Brace Pro product of Leatt's rights in the Leatt-Brace® Moto GPX. Under the terms of settlement, Pro Tork has ceased all international sale and distribution of its Neck Brace Pro product and will pay an undisclosed sum to Leatt. (The Company's press release regarding the settlement is available at: http://www.leatt-corp.com/).
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as much as i like neck braces when i see leatt trying to prevent others from making life saving safety equipment it makes me not want to buy one from leatt. i realize they probably have a case but im pretty sure i was told BMW invented anti lock brakes and didn't patend them for the better safety of all. maybe if the damn thing wasn't 500 dollars others wouldn't try to recreate them. I know for one I will not have the money to buy a leatt brace for at least the next 4 years while i am in school, hell that's 4 bike payments, or 5 tanks of gas this summer......................
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Sounds like they're being sued by someone in California (go figure!), not by California itself. One of 12 defendants sounds like someone is probably sueing any party possibly involved in a crash( gear, helmet, bike, track, leatt, etc).
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as much as i like neck braces when i see leatt trying to prevent others from making life saving safety equipment it makes me not want...
as much as i like neck braces when i see leatt trying to prevent others from making life saving safety equipment it makes me not want to buy one from leatt. i realize they probably have a case but im pretty sure i was told BMW invented anti lock brakes and didn't patend them for the better safety of all. maybe if the damn thing wasn't 500 dollars others wouldn't try to recreate them. I know for one I will not have the money to buy a leatt brace for at least the next 4 years while i am in school, hell that's 4 bike payments, or 5 tanks of gas this summer......................
I'll agree they seem to be defending their product pretty vigorously.
I've been wearing the EVS...that won't get me in legal trouble will it? Wink
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I don't have a problem with them defending their intellectual property. They seem to have spent a lot of money in developing something was beforehand was not available. They have had a 37% profit year yielding just over $1.9mil. That's not a huge profit for a company that's selling a two or three forms of a single purpose product. Their profit could easily fall significantly in the next few years due to market saturation or just plain old market demand. I think they have every right to defend what's theirs. It looks like they realized A-stars has deeper pockets than them.

Anyone using the "I can't afford one" is kidding themselves. You can find used ones all over. You can even buy a new one if you save up some dough. Think of all the other things you will buy that might not be necessary, new gear, new boots, that new pipe, graphics, other stufflike that.

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I don't have a problem with them defending their intellectual property. They seem to have spent a lot of money in developing something was beforehand was...
I don't have a problem with them defending their intellectual property. They seem to have spent a lot of money in developing something was beforehand was not available. They have had a 37% profit year yielding just over $1.9mil. That's not a huge profit for a company that's selling a two or three forms of a single purpose product. Their profit could easily fall significantly in the next few years due to market saturation or just plain old market demand. I think they have every right to defend what's theirs. It looks like they realized A-stars has deeper pockets than them.

Anyone using the "I can't afford one" is kidding themselves. You can find used ones all over. You can even buy a new one if you save up some dough. Think of all the other things you will buy that might not be necessary, new gear, new boots, that new pipe, graphics, other stufflike that.
haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan that has no jobs which means no summer work, cant afford to cough up 600 bucks on top of my 125 a month bike payment, gas, oil, gas for vehicle, i also need new boots because im almost to the point to where the footpeg will come threw into my foot......the list goes on, im saying unless you have a moto parent and a fun hauler mommy and daddy are not buying you a 600 dollar brace...........
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haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan...
haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan that has no jobs which means no summer work, cant afford to cough up 600 bucks on top of my 125 a month bike payment, gas, oil, gas for vehicle, i also need new boots because im almost to the point to where the footpeg will come threw into my foot......the list goes on, im saying unless you have a moto parent and a fun hauler mommy and daddy are not buying you a 600 dollar brace...........
I don't know where you shop but I paid $200 for my wife's Leatt.
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isn't that the plastic one? I dunno when i see 225 vs 395 vs 595 or w/e it is I don't see how 350 bucks less offers the same protection, Ive worn cheap a star boots and expensive ass ones, there's a difference for sure if i am wrong and you can prove this which i hope not please inform me ive only rode with one for about ten min so my experience with these is short
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isn't that the plastic one? I dunno when i see 225 vs 395 vs 595 or w/e it is I don't see how 350 bucks less...
isn't that the plastic one? I dunno when i see 225 vs 395 vs 595 or w/e it is I don't see how 350 bucks less offers the same protection, Ive worn cheap a star boots and expensive ass ones, there's a difference for sure if i am wrong and you can prove this which i hope not please inform me ive only rode with one for about ten min so my experience with these is short
I don't have much experience with the Leatt...EVS sent me the RC Evolution so I am trying it out. Yes, you probably get what you pay for but the EVS is a much lower price range.

I actually had a hard crash the first time I wore the Evo in Arencross. It was a side-slap kind of landing that knocked me cold. It's hard to say how much the brace did. But I can say my neck didn't hurt at all even though I had a sprained shoulder and some nasty bruises all over.
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2/10/2009 3:46pm Edited Date/Time 2/10/2009 3:52pm
isn't that the plastic one? I dunno when i see 225 vs 395 vs 595 or w/e it is I don't see how 350 bucks less...
isn't that the plastic one? I dunno when i see 225 vs 395 vs 595 or w/e it is I don't see how 350 bucks less offers the same protection, Ive worn cheap a star boots and expensive ass ones, there's a difference for sure if i am wrong and you can prove this which i hope not please inform me ive only rode with one for about ten min so my experience with these is short
The braces are essentially the same and offer the same level of protection. The $600 Leatt uses a carbon fiber body for a few less ounces of weight. It's a waste of money. The Club and the Adventure are both made of fiber reinforced plastic. The only real difference between the Adventure and the more expensive Leatt's is the table height adjustment that most people don't even need. If you are the average height and weight racer, the Adventure is probably all you need.
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rallendude wrote:
I don't have a problem with them defending their intellectual property. They seem to have spent a lot of money in developing something was beforehand was...
I don't have a problem with them defending their intellectual property. They seem to have spent a lot of money in developing something was beforehand was not available. They have had a 37% profit year yielding just over $1.9mil. That's not a huge profit for a company that's selling a two or three forms of a single purpose product. Their profit could easily fall significantly in the next few years due to market saturation or just plain old market demand. I think they have every right to defend what's theirs. It looks like they realized A-stars has deeper pockets than them.

Anyone using the "I can't afford one" is kidding themselves. You can find used ones all over. You can even buy a new one if you save up some dough. Think of all the other things you will buy that might not be necessary, new gear, new boots, that new pipe, graphics, other stufflike that.
haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan...
haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan that has no jobs which means no summer work, cant afford to cough up 600 bucks on top of my 125 a month bike payment, gas, oil, gas for vehicle, i also need new boots because im almost to the point to where the footpeg will come threw into my foot......the list goes on, im saying unless you have a moto parent and a fun hauler mommy and daddy are not buying you a 600 dollar brace...........
The entry level brace is less than half what you're stating. The investors that put up the money to develop the product and company behind it have every right to earn whatever profit the market will bear.....that's kind of how capitalism works.

Anyone that has difficulty understanding the benefits of capitalism over socialism/communism can find a good example in the motorcycle industry. Google Jawa/CZ and see what communist Czech produced at the same time the Japanese were developing the Elsinore, YZ's and RM's...
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I don't have a problem with them defending their intellectual property. They seem to have spent a lot of money in developing something was beforehand was...
I don't have a problem with them defending their intellectual property. They seem to have spent a lot of money in developing something was beforehand was not available. They have had a 37% profit year yielding just over $1.9mil. That's not a huge profit for a company that's selling a two or three forms of a single purpose product. Their profit could easily fall significantly in the next few years due to market saturation or just plain old market demand. I think they have every right to defend what's theirs. It looks like they realized A-stars has deeper pockets than them.

Anyone using the "I can't afford one" is kidding themselves. You can find used ones all over. You can even buy a new one if you save up some dough. Think of all the other things you will buy that might not be necessary, new gear, new boots, that new pipe, graphics, other stufflike that.
Well said. I catch myself saying I can't afford things from time to time then stop and think... I took my wife out to a nice dinner and dropped $150, and all that got me was a few extra minutes "in the office doing paper work". Can't afford can easily be a cop out for not my top priority. haha

A neck brace may not save your life, but, its readily available, why take the risk? Look how fast life can change. Hopefully you'll never need it, but why not have it there in case you do?

Every plane has flotation devices under the seat. I've never used one, but I'm glad it's there in case . hahaha

I high sided at E-Town in practice after coming together with a guy on the practice track in a high speed right hand sweeper. I hit my head hard, spit some blood from a bite on the tongue, smashed the visor off my TLD helmet , and really rung my bell. The next day I totally expected some serious whip lash, and discomfort. My neck felt fine. I was so impressed. Didn't save my life by any means, but prevented a miserable week of work havin a tweaked and sore neck. I don't even ride my quad clowning around in the snow with out my Leatt any more. LOL
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haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan...
haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan that has no jobs which means no summer work, cant afford to cough up 600 bucks on top of my 125 a month bike payment, gas, oil, gas for vehicle, i also need new boots because im almost to the point to where the footpeg will come threw into my foot......the list goes on, im saying unless you have a moto parent and a fun hauler mommy and daddy are not buying you a 600 dollar brace...........
Then maybe you really can't afford to ride, right now.
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haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan...
haha so a college kid like myself who has a truck that gets 7mpg that no one in their right mind will buy, lives in michigan that has no jobs which means no summer work, cant afford to cough up 600 bucks on top of my 125 a month bike payment, gas, oil, gas for vehicle, i also need new boots because im almost to the point to where the footpeg will come threw into my foot......the list goes on, im saying unless you have a moto parent and a fun hauler mommy and daddy are not buying you a 600 dollar brace...........
Then maybe you really can't afford to ride, right now.
You got the rest of your life ahead of you, if you can't afford protective gear, like whipmeister said, maybe just take a short break until you finish your studies. One bad crash can change everything you're working towards.

I had a crash that changed my life, and I'm only 30. It was a fluke thing, and I had all my braces and protective equipment on. I would hate to look back and be able to blame my injury on negligence on my part in not using what's available in terms of safety . Hell it's hard enough dealing with it knowing I was at least doin my favorite thing in life when I got hurt. hahaha
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I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt design is a Hans that's adapted to motocross. They can certainly patent and defend their particular construction, but trying to claim intellectual rights to the concept is absurd.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt...
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt design is a Hans that's adapted to motocross. They can certainly patent and defend their particular construction, but trying to claim intellectual rights to the concept is absurd.
The devil is in the details and saying they just took the Hans and adapted it for motocross is like saying that Yamaha just adapted Roper's Steam motorcycle for motocross. The Hans and the Leatt may look similar, but work quite differently.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt...
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt design is a Hans that's adapted to motocross. They can certainly patent and defend their particular construction, but trying to claim intellectual rights to the concept is absurd.
roberts29 wrote:
The devil is in the details and saying they just took the Hans and adapted it for motocross is like saying that Yamaha just adapted Roper's...
The devil is in the details and saying they just took the Hans and adapted it for motocross is like saying that Yamaha just adapted Roper's Steam motorcycle for motocross. The Hans and the Leatt may look similar, but work quite differently.
The Leatt and the Hans work the same way. There's no magic in those things. "Intellectual property" means, "I'm going to sue all my competitors to harass them into staying out of my field." Hans should have sued Leatt.
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They don't work the same
Not at all
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WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt...
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt design is a Hans that's adapted to motocross. They can certainly patent and defend their particular construction, but trying to claim intellectual rights to the concept is absurd.
The Hans device and the Leatt may look similar but perform their tasks in a totally different manner. The Hans is designed so that tethers restrict forward head movement in a head-on crash. The lateral forward whipping action of the head during a head-on can cause basilar skull fractures like the one that killed Dale Earnhardt.

The Leatt uses shelves to provide a alternate load path around the neck during compression forces on top of the helmet. There was nothing like this on the market before the Leatt so that's why their intellectual property was granted patents to protect their design.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt...
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt design is a Hans that's adapted to motocross. They can certainly patent and defend their particular construction, but trying to claim intellectual rights to the concept is absurd.
CamP wrote:
The Hans device and the Leatt may look similar but perform their tasks in a totally different manner. The Hans is designed so that tethers restrict...
The Hans device and the Leatt may look similar but perform their tasks in a totally different manner. The Hans is designed so that tethers restrict forward head movement in a head-on crash. The lateral forward whipping action of the head during a head-on can cause basilar skull fractures like the one that killed Dale Earnhardt.

The Leatt uses shelves to provide a alternate load path around the neck during compression forces on top of the helmet. There was nothing like this on the market before the Leatt so that's why their intellectual property was granted patents to protect their design.
Both the Hans and Leatt transfer the force of head motion into the wearer's upper body. They do exactly the same thing. Not only that, the design is an obvious one - if a person was going to design a brace to prevent over-rotation of the head, it's obvious that they'd do it that way. There's nothing creative about it..
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Actually most of the automotive innovations we take for granted were originally designed in the US. Where the Japanese excel is in perfecting our innovations. We are the idea guys, they are the perfectionists.

We are closing the gap on quality. In fact, 6 of 17 2008 JD Powers best in category awards went to American cars. There are also a lot of other five star rated US made cars if you do the research. Where the Japanese kill us is the compact car category.
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Both the Hans and Leatt transfer the force of head motion into the wearer's upper body. They do exactly the same thing. Not only that, the...
Both the Hans and Leatt transfer the force of head motion into the wearer's upper body. They do exactly the same thing. Not only that, the design is an obvious one - if a person was going to design a brace to prevent over-rotation of the head, it's obvious that they'd do it that way. There's nothing creative about it..
One brace is prevent lateral movement, one brace is preventing axial movement. Two different things.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Both the Hans and Leatt transfer the force of head motion into the wearer's upper body. They do exactly the same thing. Not only that, the...
Both the Hans and Leatt transfer the force of head motion into the wearer's upper body. They do exactly the same thing. Not only that, the design is an obvious one - if a person was going to design a brace to prevent over-rotation of the head, it's obvious that they'd do it that way. There's nothing creative about it..
No, they don't.

The HANS is secured firmly to the shoulders via the safety belt's five-point harness, the helmet is then clipped via tether to the HANS.
So in a crash, the force of the head movement is transferred to the HANS and then the safety belt harness.

The LEATT is not secured to the shoulders or body, the helmet is not tethered to it and it's primary purpose is to prevent hyper-extension of the neck by reducing forward and backward movement via the "shelves"

HANS has no "shelves"

Look similar, work totally different
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I'm glad someone made a legitimate neck protection device, but the design simply isn't unique. It's derivative of the Hans brace in that it transfers load from the head to the wearer's upper body, and it's actually also derivative of knee braces. It's no big deal. Leatt started that policy of suing competitors right off the bat, and that left a bad taste in lots of people's mouths for very good reason. In addition, the design isn't very good in my opinion - it transfers load to a small area of a critical part of the body, and also allows the head to be used as a lever against the upper chest or back. I also see people at the track with those things sitting so high that they literally couldn't look up at the sky - in a crash, they're going to have that thing digging into their back long before their neck was in any danger at all - getting the thing adjusted seems to be tricky. So I'm glad it's there and people have the option of using it, but Leatt got a lot more attaboys than they earned in my personal opinion - I'd love to see better braces made by someone, but when one industry player is lawsuit happy, that obviously discourages other ideas. But like my signiture says, everyone thinks their own opinion is right, if they didn't they'd get a new opinion.
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HANS transfers to five point harness, not upper body
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HANS transfers to five point harness, not upper body
It goes over the wearer's shoulders and the straps secure it. It transfers the load to the wearer's body. Get over it - the Leatt design is so obvious that to call it "intellectual property" is laughable. It does the same thing lots of safety devices do - protect one part of the body by sacrificing another part - knee braces, chest protectors, shoulder pads. It's not, by the way, a "helmet for your neck" - a helmet dissipates energy by progressively crushing, the Leatt may break (a frightening concept considering it's wrapped around your neck) but generally just pushes on the wearer's body to absorb force.

I'm not dogging Leatt's design, it's a great first effort, but by suing all their competitors, there's not much chance we'll get a BETTER design any time soon. And theirs isn't the ultimate in anyone's estimation. Suing competitors over such an obvious and derivative design is unconscionable.
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flarider wrote:
HANS transfers to five point harness, not upper body
WhKnuckle wrote:
It goes over the wearer's shoulders and the straps secure it. It transfers the load to the wearer's body. Get over it - the Leatt design...
It goes over the wearer's shoulders and the straps secure it. It transfers the load to the wearer's body. Get over it - the Leatt design is so obvious that to call it "intellectual property" is laughable. It does the same thing lots of safety devices do - protect one part of the body by sacrificing another part - knee braces, chest protectors, shoulder pads. It's not, by the way, a "helmet for your neck" - a helmet dissipates energy by progressively crushing, the Leatt may break (a frightening concept considering it's wrapped around your neck) but generally just pushes on the wearer's body to absorb force.

I'm not dogging Leatt's design, it's a great first effort, but by suing all their competitors, there's not much chance we'll get a BETTER design any time soon. And theirs isn't the ultimate in anyone's estimation. Suing competitors over such an obvious and derivative design is unconscionable.
Obviously, the Leatt design is unique enough to be granted global patents. I have contributed to several patents and it is not easy (or cheap) to get global IP protection. Nor is it cheap to enforce those patents.
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It goes over the wearer's shoulders and the straps secure it. It transfers the load to the wearer's body. Get over it - the Leatt design...
It goes over the wearer's shoulders and the straps secure it. It transfers the load to the wearer's body. Get over it - the Leatt design is so obvious that to call it "intellectual property" is laughable. It does the same thing lots of safety devices do - protect one part of the body by sacrificing another part - knee braces, chest protectors, shoulder pads. It's not, by the way, a "helmet for your neck" - a helmet dissipates energy by progressively crushing, the Leatt may break (a frightening concept considering it's wrapped around your neck) but generally just pushes on the wearer's body to absorb force.

I'm not dogging Leatt's design, it's a great first effort, but by suing all their competitors, there's not much chance we'll get a BETTER design any time soon. And theirs isn't the ultimate in anyone's estimation. Suing competitors over such an obvious and derivative design is unconscionable.
I don't see it that way. Dr. Leatt quit his job and committed five years and who knows how many millions to bring a new product to market. He has every right to protect his investment from the bottom feeding copy cat companies that are common in this industry.
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2/10/2009 8:09pm
WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt...
I don't see where Leatt has any real claim to intellectual property. They were building the Hans brace long before Leatt came along, and the Leatt design is a Hans that's adapted to motocross. They can certainly patent and defend their particular construction, but trying to claim intellectual rights to the concept is absurd.
Ummm, if their patent is good, then it is their intellectual property. That's the definition. If the patent can be invalidated because if prior art, so be it.

The way normal businesses operate, which is how moto businesses should operate, is that other companies can leverage off another entity's investment in developing a patented product by taking a license. There's nothing that prevents any other company from striking a deal with Leatt or from taking innovation even further.

Allowing other companies to copy protected material doesn't benefit anyone as far as making more safety equipment available. What it does, in fact, is stifle innovation.
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2/10/2009 8:18pm
whknuckle, you're off base and can't see it. It's been plainly stated many times that the two devices function in vastly different ways. Ever notice the straps on the back of the HANS? That's to tie your helmet to something stationary. There is also no sort of motion limit (shelves) on the HANS. You're correct, the Leatt does transfer the load to your upper torso. The HANS does not. It transfers the load into the brace which is secured via the 'seat belt' to the seat/chassis.

So you don't like the Leatt.....fine. Don't buy one. There are a couple other options now. Get one of those.

If the design was so simple and obvious, then you should have done this years ago. You'd be rich now. Plainly, Dr. Leatt saw a need for a neck protection device. I'd guess he looked at everything out there to do similar functions and took the best of all those devices. Then he made whatever improvements he thought the public would want and safety would warrant. Now you have the Leatt. There are lots of people in the world that make big dollars to decide what gets patents and what don't. They get paid to know more about intellectual property than you. They decided the Leatt was worthy of patents, so no one else can infringe on those patents now.
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2/10/2009 10:47pm
Time to admit you are wrong on this one whknuckle...

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