Torn Labrum in Mx

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I unfortunately had a bad spill last weekend and have had really bad shoulder pain when i move it in certain ways. I landed on my head and my shoulder straight on. Went to the doctor and he said it sounds like i tore my labrum. He said it would heal on its own and i can get back to riding whenever it feels better. Does anyone on here happen to have any experience with a torn labrum? i've been doing PT on it every night, just wondering how long it takes roughly. It only hurts when i move it certain ways but i think riding would cause a lot of pain since you're all over the bike. already want to ride badly.
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Temor a la Mancha 4/7/2017 4:25pm
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Sorry pal but if nobody's told you yet that a torn labrum will never heal itself you've been jerked around. It's a career-ender for a lot of baseball players. What kind of doctor did you see that said it would heal itself? I've had a torn labrum for about 20 years from back when I played volleyball in college. Best thing you can do without surgery is keep your shoulder muscles strong - all of them - and your back. Stretching and physical therapy don't really do much for torn tissue. I don't know why physical therapists do that nonsense.
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Craig742 4/7/2017 4:37pm
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He is correct it will not heal itself, if you can live with the pain then do not get Surgery. I had mine done 2x's on same shoulder and its worse than ever. from the tear my humerus "O" my socket which now is extreme pain and clunks. they are putting off a replacement since I'm only 42. But arthritis is now set in and makes riding difficult sometimes. if you get it done, it can take up to a year to be fully back (if Lucky)to somewhat normal
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NoahSuthy99 4/7/2017 4:41pm
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Temor a la Mancha wrote:
Sorry pal but if nobody's told you yet that a torn labrum will never heal itself you've been jerked around. It's a career-ender for a lot...
Sorry pal but if nobody's told you yet that a torn labrum will never heal itself you've been jerked around. It's a career-ender for a lot of baseball players. What kind of doctor did you see that said it would heal itself? I've had a torn labrum for about 20 years from back when I played volleyball in college. Best thing you can do without surgery is keep your shoulder muscles strong - all of them - and your back. Stretching and physical therapy don't really do much for torn tissue. I don't know why physical therapists do that nonsense.
this was an orthopedic surgeon that told me this. i'm only 16, he said it wouldn't require surgery. is it likely that this will be a problem for the rest of my life or will the pain subside after time? as long as it doesn't hurt while riding i can live.
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BS261 4/7/2017 4:42pm
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It's true, a torn labrum won't heal on it's own. I injured mine water-skiing (it's OK to let go of the rope, stupid!) and lived with it for 6 months hoping it would get better on it's own. Finally got arthroscopic surgery and was back to work in 6 weeks. I had to do some therapy to get my strength back but it was worth getting it fixed...and no issues with it since.

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moco 4/7/2017 4:46pm
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You got nothing to loose by trying blood spinning.
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kzizok 4/7/2017 4:47pm
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They can heal. But partial is usually the best you could expect. If your ortho downplayed it, then it probably isnt too severe. But, labral injuries suck and surgery doesnt seem to do much for the less severe injuries. They tend to nag for a long time, if not forever. The good news is your 16, and your body will heal better than ever.
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NHtoWA421 4/7/2017 4:49pm
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Have you had an mri done? If that has not been done, you should consider getting that done. I've had quite the saga with my shoulders, and in my opinion, you should see the visual before you make any judgements
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NoahSuthy99 4/7/2017 4:51pm
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Have you had an mri done? If that has not been done, you should consider getting that done. I've had quite the saga with my shoulders...
Have you had an mri done? If that has not been done, you should consider getting that done. I've had quite the saga with my shoulders, and in my opinion, you should see the visual before you make any judgements
the doc said even if we got an mri done on it they wouldn't operate unless it didn't heal in a few months.
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CarlinoJoeVideo 4/7/2017 4:52pm
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None of us are doctors here so it's hard to diagnose your problem with very little info. But from my experience like these guys said above, the labrum unfortunately won't heal on it's without surgery.

I've dealt with a torn labrum for 3 years now and finally got surgery about 9 months ago. Mine was torn enough and caused many many dislocations so surgery was necessary. I have 5 anchors in the front and 3 in the top/back holding my rotor cuff into a chip on my humeral head. My doctors faculty in Santa Monica CA, works with Red Bull and provides services on many of their athletes, i've learned a lot from them and the process of fixing my shoulder.

1)For you, have you had an MRI? No way of telling until that is done.
2)Get a second opinion.
3)If you haven't had any dislocations, you will most likely be fine at your age. Maybe it's a slight tear or stretch.

Back to the original question, at least 2 weeks off the bike, pain should go away 3-4 weeks from injury. PT helped a lot.
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kzizok 4/7/2017 4:52pm
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Good points about both MRI and blood spinning (especially for this type of injury).
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CarlinoJoeVideo 4/7/2017 4:56pm
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kzizok wrote:
Good points about both MRI and blood spinning (especially for this type of injury).
Good call. Blood spinning isn't cheap though, so depends how often you can do it and the faculty that is near your house. But it's claimed to help heal faster... Some info below:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood-spinning

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CarlinoJoeVideo 4/7/2017 5:18pm
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Hey, so I'll correct myself, I looked online and some people say, "Because the labrum has a rich supply of blood, some labral tears heal on their own." I'm assuming these are small tears or stretches.

One thing I didn't mention is "It is important to find out whether the labral tear is associated with instability of the shoulder joint. If it is, both conditions need to be treated at the same time."

This is the biggest thing you need to worry about. if you aren't feeling instability(your shoulder wanting to pop out) you will be fine with a few weeks of PT. The big worry is if dislocations happen.
patrickadizzle 4/7/2017 5:21pm
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Shoulder injuries suck.

Good luck dude.
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NoahSuthy99 4/7/2017 5:21pm
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Hey, so I'll correct myself, I looked online and some people say, "Because the labrum has a rich supply of blood, some labral tears heal on...
Hey, so I'll correct myself, I looked online and some people say, "Because the labrum has a rich supply of blood, some labral tears heal on their own." I'm assuming these are small tears or stretches.

One thing I didn't mention is "It is important to find out whether the labral tear is associated with instability of the shoulder joint. If it is, both conditions need to be treated at the same time."

This is the biggest thing you need to worry about. if you aren't feeling instability(your shoulder wanting to pop out) you will be fine with a few weeks of PT. The big worry is if dislocations happen.
i've had no problems of my shoulder coming out of socket since the crash. hopefully, it's just a small tear and it will be good in a few weeks.
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moco 4/7/2017 6:00pm
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Blood spinning is around $400 in my neighbourhood. You could probably get someone to do it cheaper in a parking lot.
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LeMay_848 4/7/2017 6:33pm
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I tore my labrum a couple years back. Had a scope surgery with 4 sutures. No issues now but was a decently long recovery. It will not heal itself.
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Brent 4/7/2017 9:05pm
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Tore mine. Surgery and a 9 month layoff was mandatory for me

6 years later it still feels weird.
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MDMCG 4/7/2017 9:23pm
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So let me get this right....
1. You haven't had a MRI.
2. You don't know the extent of your injury or the definitive diagnosis for that matter.

My advise as a doc....
1. Find out what you actually injured.
2. Characterize the extent of said injury.
3. Develop a plan to get over the injury.

If the labrum is torn you won't be right until it is fixed. With that said, you don't even know if it's torn, much less the extent or other associated injuries.
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Monk 4/7/2017 9:49pm
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Slight tears in both my shoulders over the last 5yrs. One was a trip over the bars while doubling a set of logs in an EX section, the other 2yrs later 5th gear pinned into a swap... Again, 'slight' tears that did not warrant surgery. I never rehabbed my right shoulder properly but took the time with my left. Literally 5 months, 3x a week and the left is perfect, the right can still bother me once in a while... Do everything including the rehab properly and you'll be good...

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