And people say A-kit isn't worth the money LMAO!

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kzizok 4/6/2017 7:41pm
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Interestingly enough, I've done a blind comparison test with a standard hydraulic lock system and a Huck Valve (two others were in this test). Myself and...
Interestingly enough, I've done a blind comparison test with a standard hydraulic lock system and a Huck Valve (two others were in this test). Myself and the other two riders disliked the same fork, it ended up being the one with the Huck Valve inside. Now what I'm going to say, is I don't think it's a bad part necessarily, but it was interesting how a hydraulic lock system that activates that early actually affected the initial part of the stroke and feel.

By blind, I mean none of the riders involved knew which fork had which parts in it, I was the only one in the test that was even aware what we were testing (I wasn't made aware of which fork was which though).
Personally, I think if blind (for stuff that is blindable) testing were done more, the results would be surprising. In other words, preconceived knowledge bias heavily influences outcome opinions. The placebo effect is strong with this sport.
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The original forks have a base plate of pre-famulated amulite, what makes A kit and Works suspension so special is that they are surmounted by a malleable logarithmic casing in such a way that the two spurving bearings are in a direct line with the panametric frame... thus making bottoming impossible without regard to spring rate or valving specification for rider weight and track style... Tongue
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Michael I know you ride with the cool kids like Zach Peddie and shit, but there is no way in hell you are fast enough to...
Michael I know you ride with the cool kids like Zach Peddie and shit, but there is no way in hell you are fast enough to bottom Works suspension, the same goes for Kirk Chandler! You guys are fast no doubt about it but not that fast!

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You really don't understand how suspension works, do you? Can you explain to me what makes for a difference in the bottom resistance between a current...
You really don't understand how suspension works, do you? Can you explain to me what makes for a difference in the bottom resistance between a current production Showa spring fork (the new CRF one), A-Kit Showa fork, and the works forks? Or any other production vs works fork.
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

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ktmman wrote:
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus...
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

Jeepers...the dumbass force is strong with you

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KBOLTZ 4/6/2017 8:09pm
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ktmman wrote:
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus...
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

kiwifan wrote:
Jeepers...the dumbass force is strong with you
No doubt
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ML512 4/6/2017 8:11pm
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ktmman wrote:
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus...
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

Did you know that before Vital I worked for Enzo and KYB (racing services)? I've had their works components apart, in my hands, I've tested them personally...

Suspension can easily be bottomed by any level of rider, it depends on the forces applied versus the spring force and damping capabilities of the unit in question.

As my boss used to say, a fork has 12 inches of travel for a reason, so you can use all of it...not 10 inches or 11 inches...all 12.

Who's the fool that clearly knows nothing about suspension?
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Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus...
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

kiwifan wrote:
Jeepers...the dumbass force is strong with you
Lets see your case video dumbass LOLOL
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ktmman 4/6/2017 8:12pm
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ktmman wrote:
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus...
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

ML512 wrote:
Did you know that before Vital I worked for Enzo and KYB (racing services)? I've had their works components apart, in my hands, I've tested them...
Did you know that before Vital I worked for Enzo and KYB (racing services)? I've had their works components apart, in my hands, I've tested them personally...

Suspension can easily be bottomed by any level of rider, it depends on the forces applied versus the spring force and damping capabilities of the unit in question.

As my boss used to say, a fork has 12 inches of travel for a reason, so you can use all of it...not 10 inches or 11 inches...all 12.

Who's the fool that clearly knows nothing about suspension?
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
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ML512 4/6/2017 8:14pm
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You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
Damn, the poor Showa and KYB kits in my shop, how did I ever use them?

Why do I get invited to KYB tests, why did the Showa techs give me engine mounts to test the other day...why, oh why...

Btw, is there a reason you have four accounts? Are you that bad at remembering your password or something?
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ML512 4/6/2017 8:17pm
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ktmman wrote:
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
My last name is "Lindsay" by the way. If you're going to insult someone, at least attempt to use their name and a little proper grammar. Unless your goal is not only to look like a complete fool by talking about something you know nothing about, but also attempting to be a very poor troll and appearing to everyone that didn't pass fourth grade English.
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KirkChandler 4/6/2017 8:22pm
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Someone is trying to bottom out of Vital. Laughing
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Ranch Life 4/6/2017 8:23pm
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ktmman wrote:
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
Well even if he didn't bottom the a-kit, he bottomed out your girl apparently.
TheOriginalPancakee 4/6/2017 8:23pm
4/6/2017 8:23pm
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Bottoming doesn't have shit to do with the quality of suspension or what it costs or is called. [img] https://youtu.be/GdM5Xa1Jio0 [/img]
Bottoming doesn't have shit to do with the quality of suspension or what it costs or is called.



Geeeeezzzz my balls hurt
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ML512 4/6/2017 8:24pm
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Someone is trying to bottom out of Vital. Laughing
Someone must have listened to the last episode of Pulp, and was disappointed when I was asked who the number one troll was on Vital but didn't name this guy as the winner.
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ktmman wrote:
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus...
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

And that my friends, is why you stay away from crack!
TheOriginalPancakee 4/6/2017 8:27pm
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ktmman wrote:
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus...
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

You sir won retard of the day. Congrats!
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ktmman wrote:
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
ML512 wrote:
Damn, the poor Showa and KYB kits in my shop, how did I ever use them? Why do I get invited to KYB tests, why did...
Damn, the poor Showa and KYB kits in my shop, how did I ever use them?

Why do I get invited to KYB tests, why did the Showa techs give me engine mounts to test the other day...why, oh why...

Btw, is there a reason you have four accounts? Are you that bad at remembering your password or something?
What are the other accounts?
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kzizok 4/6/2017 8:59pm
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Kinda ironic really. OP makes a post in relation to A kit suspension with a video reference of Stewart, not using A kit suspension. Later, he then proceeds to point the finger at someone and says they don't know what they're talking about, suspension wise.

Its like 10,000 spoons, when all you need is a knife.

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feelnjstfine 4/6/2017 9:08pm
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KirkChandler wrote:
Someone is trying to bottom out of Vital. Laughing
Sounds more like he wants to bottom out someone that works at Vital Shocked
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I'd say he's just way far into the bottle. Awfully giggly and dumber than fuck.
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You sir won retard of the day. Congrats!
No kidding....what a moran!
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jeffro503 4/6/2017 9:27pm
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ktmman wrote:
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus...
Look your obviously not a Showa or Kayaba factory suspension technician, so you don't know anymore about suspension than anyone else in this forum and plus I have seen your riding videos for your bike tests and your not that fast so therefore you are not bottoming works suspension in any scenario end of story! You can fool the fans but you can't fool the players! LMFAO!

Axell Hodges would destroy you on the track and he can't even make top 10 at Loretta's so you claiming that you bottom factory suspension is complete horseshit! Pics or it didn't happen LOLOLOLL

ML512 wrote:
Did you know that before Vital I worked for Enzo and KYB (racing services)? I've had their works components apart, in my hands, I've tested them...
Did you know that before Vital I worked for Enzo and KYB (racing services)? I've had their works components apart, in my hands, I've tested them personally...

Suspension can easily be bottomed by any level of rider, it depends on the forces applied versus the spring force and damping capabilities of the unit in question.

As my boss used to say, a fork has 12 inches of travel for a reason, so you can use all of it...not 10 inches or 11 inches...all 12.

Who's the fool that clearly knows nothing about suspension?
ktmman wrote:
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
This dude just went full fucking retard.

Don't do that.
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I got BVM's "pre-famulated amulite" reference, Kzizok's "Ironic" reference and we got someone going "Full Retard"...

I think this thread may deliver!
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Oh....my wrists.....
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ktmman wrote:
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
ML512 wrote:
Damn, the poor Showa and KYB kits in my shop, how did I ever use them? Why do I get invited to KYB tests, why did...
Damn, the poor Showa and KYB kits in my shop, how did I ever use them?

Why do I get invited to KYB tests, why did the Showa techs give me engine mounts to test the other day...why, oh why...

Btw, is there a reason you have four accounts? Are you that bad at remembering your password or something?
Michael....isn't it an unwritten rule around here , that when you bust someone with multiple accounts....you fill the rest of us in on the other user names?

Would be a good way to avoid this idiot in the future. Sheesh!
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jeffro503 4/6/2017 9:32pm
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KirkChandler wrote:
Someone is trying to bottom out of Vital. Laughing
ML512 wrote:
Someone must have listened to the last episode of Pulp, and was disappointed when I was asked who the number one troll was on Vital but...
Someone must have listened to the last episode of Pulp, and was disappointed when I was asked who the number one troll was on Vital but didn't name this guy as the winner.
Paul....again. Right?

Imagine that.
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jeffro503 4/6/2017 9:33pm
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Don't throw this in the dumbgeon...let it play out.
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ktmman 4/6/2017 9:39pm
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ktmman wrote:
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
Ranch Life wrote:
Well even if he didn't bottom the a-kit, he bottomed out your girl apparently.
You and Lindsey have fun with each other last night LOLOLOLOL
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ktmman 4/6/2017 9:43pm
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ktmman wrote:
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
ML512 wrote:
Damn, the poor Showa and KYB kits in my shop, how did I ever use them? Why do I get invited to KYB tests, why did...
Damn, the poor Showa and KYB kits in my shop, how did I ever use them?

Why do I get invited to KYB tests, why did the Showa techs give me engine mounts to test the other day...why, oh why...

Btw, is there a reason you have four accounts? Are you that bad at remembering your password or something?
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Ranch Life 4/6/2017 9:44pm
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ktmman wrote:
You cant even use half the stroke Lindsey, better stay with that cheaper Ohlins Shit! Showa A-kit is too nice for you!

LOLOLOLOL
Ranch Life wrote:
Well even if he didn't bottom the a-kit, he bottomed out your girl apparently.
ktmman wrote:
You and Lindsey have fun with each other last night LOLOLOLOL
What can I say, it was her first Eiffel Tower

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