MXGP of Leon - Mexico: Race Day Discussion

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RG1 4/2/2017 11:54am
4/2/2017 11:54am
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Yeah Herlings is not a 14th place guy at all, not sure what is going on. He missed important prep, but even an underprepared Herlings would...
Yeah Herlings is not a 14th place guy at all, not sure what is going on. He missed important prep, but even an underprepared Herlings would be better than that normally. He might just be trying too hard, and not flowing like he normally does. It's strange
Sideways wrote:
I doubt it. I think he still suffers from his hand injury. Saw a pic of it from this pits and it looks swollen as hell.
Yeah it's a possibility of course. Only reason I didn't mention that is because he says that it isn't a problem anymore, but I think maybe that's because he doesn't want to make excuses. Whatever the case, it doesn't take a genius to work out that something isn't as it should be
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RG1 4/2/2017 11:56am
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DP#201 wrote:
And what about his starts? He has been way off, normaly his 1-3 after a start.... his like, leting them have it, no aggression.
Yeah that's also true. I don't think he's had a top 5 start in any race so far this season
Pakoyz250f 4/2/2017 11:57am
4/2/2017 11:57am
For what is worth he definitely looks like he is not even trying, like in some corners he justs cruises or the triple sometimes he did it sometimes not. So I think he maybe is just not risking before he is 100 %
Motocross83 4/2/2017 11:58am
4/2/2017 11:58am
That was great. Good to see Paulin in the mix again.

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Fiar 4/2/2017 12:02pm
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RG1 wrote:
Yeah Herlings is not a 14th place guy at all, not sure what is going on. He missed important prep, but even an underprepared Herlings would...
Yeah Herlings is not a 14th place guy at all, not sure what is going on. He missed important prep, but even an underprepared Herlings would be better than that normally. He might just be trying too hard, and not flowing like he normally does. It's strange
Sideways wrote:
I doubt it. I think he still suffers from his hand injury. Saw a pic of it from this pits and it looks swollen as hell.
You know where you saw it? Or can you post it?
Sandwarrior752 4/2/2017 12:03pm
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Tim Gajser wins MXGP Moto 1!

Now we have about an hour pause untill the 2nd motos!
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keinz 4/2/2017 12:09pm
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Fiar wrote:
You know where you saw it? Or can you post it?


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tinus.nel 4/2/2017 12:12pm
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kzizok wrote:
Do they crown the winners Kings of Leon?
Sharpness ...
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Yep 4/2/2017 12:12pm
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Brutal track, ain't no powder puff pussies riding GPs.
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TXDirt 4/2/2017 12:14pm
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Herlings best lap was 4-5 seconds slower then the winners best lap. Is that accurate?
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Nighttrain 4/2/2017 12:19pm
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keinz wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/04/02/185427/s1200_Screenshot_2017_04_02_22.08.26.jpg[/img]


That hand...it's amazing he's still racing.
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Motofinne 4/2/2017 12:21pm
4/2/2017 12:21pm Edited Date/Time 4/2/2017 12:23pm
TXDirt wrote:
Herlings best lap was 4-5 seconds slower then the winners best lap. Is that accurate?
I think it was 3,5-4 seconds slower than Gajser. But Gajser was 1,1 seconds faster than the second fastest rider(Paulin).

But this was probably Herlings worst moto of the year. It was even worse than Qatar moto 1 considering that Qatar was 2 months ago.
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Arni 4/2/2017 12:21pm
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It's not fun any more, when you don't have the far best bike on the track, isn't it Jeffrey?
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DeStouwer 4/2/2017 12:22pm
4/2/2017 12:22pm
What an absolute uninspiring track. Just follow the leader in both classes.
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Motofinne 4/2/2017 12:23pm
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Arni wrote:
It's not fun any more, when you don't have the far best bike on the track, isn't it Jeffrey?
Stupid comment. Just look at 2016 MXdN.

Something is clearly wrong(the hand).
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ratonmacias 4/2/2017 12:25pm
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Arni wrote:
It's not fun any more, when you don't have the far best bike on the track, isn't it Jeffrey?
Motofinne wrote:
Stupid comment. Just look at 2016 MXdN.

Something is clearly wrong(the hand).
Badly hurt hand for Herlings.
EnvyMedia 4/2/2017 12:29pm
4/2/2017 12:29pm
Arni wrote:
It's not fun any more, when you don't have the far best bike on the track, isn't it Jeffrey?
Motofinne wrote:
Stupid comment. Just look at 2016 MXdN.

Something is clearly wrong(the hand).
For real though, stop using the MXDN as reference meter. Paulin was killing it at the MXON with Honda but was mediocre at the GPs.
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ayearinmx 4/2/2017 12:30pm
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DeStouwer wrote:
What an absolute uninspiring track. Just follow the leader in both classes.
You can't have been watching that battle for second in mx2....

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Motofinne 4/2/2017 12:33pm
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Arni wrote:
It's not fun any more, when you don't have the far best bike on the track, isn't it Jeffrey?
Motofinne wrote:
Stupid comment. Just look at 2016 MXdN.

Something is clearly wrong(the hand).
EnvyMedia wrote:
For real though, stop using the MXDN as reference meter. Paulin was killing it at the MXON with Honda but was mediocre at the GPs.
Paulin never "killed" it on the Honda in MXdN. He did just enough that was needed for France to win, 3-11 in 2016 and 7-5 in 2015.

Pretty much the same results that he had in the GPs.
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RG1 4/2/2017 12:35pm
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EnvyMedia wrote:
For real though, stop using the MXDN as reference meter. Paulin was killing it at the MXON with Honda but was mediocre at the GPs.
Paulin did not kill it at MXdN at all. Probably the worst he has ever ridden at a MXdN. Herlings was fantastic at MXdN in his first 450 race and the way he is riding now is a million miles off that. Its clear that everything is not 100%
EnvyMedia 4/2/2017 12:36pm
4/2/2017 12:36pm
Motofinne wrote:
Stupid comment. Just look at 2016 MXdN.

Something is clearly wrong(the hand).
EnvyMedia wrote:
For real though, stop using the MXDN as reference meter. Paulin was killing it at the MXON with Honda but was mediocre at the GPs.
Motofinne wrote:
Paulin never "killed" it on the Honda in MXdN. He did just enough that was needed for France to win, 3-11 in 2016 and 7-5 in...
Paulin never "killed" it on the Honda in MXdN. He did just enough that was needed for France to win, 3-11 in 2016 and 7-5 in 2015.

Pretty much the same results that he had in the GPs.
He looked way better than in the GPs. Can't deny that. Judging by MXDN results, Tomac should be worse than Anderson since one has a win and one hasn't.
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RG1 4/2/2017 12:36pm
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What about Febvre too? 11th in moto 1. That just shows you how high the level is out there. If you're off even a bit it's easy to be outside the top 10
Pakoyz250f 4/2/2017 12:36pm
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Second mx2 race should be good! And the heat is not that bad as it could have been. Jonass and Prado looked tired
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Motofinne 4/2/2017 12:37pm
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RG1 wrote:
What about Febvre too? 11th in moto 1. That just shows you how high the level is out there. If you're off even a bit it's...
What about Febvre too? 11th in moto 1. That just shows you how high the level is out there. If you're off even a bit it's easy to be outside the top 10
He was 9th at one point but finished 11th, weird. I wonder if he crashed?
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RG1 4/2/2017 12:37pm
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EnvyMedia wrote:
For real though, stop using the MXDN as reference meter. Paulin was killing it at the MXON with Honda but was mediocre at the GPs.
Motofinne wrote:
Paulin never "killed" it on the Honda in MXdN. He did just enough that was needed for France to win, 3-11 in 2016 and 7-5 in...
Paulin never "killed" it on the Honda in MXdN. He did just enough that was needed for France to win, 3-11 in 2016 and 7-5 in 2015.

Pretty much the same results that he had in the GPs.
EnvyMedia wrote:
He looked way better than in the GPs. Can't deny that. Judging by MXDN results, Tomac should be worse than Anderson since one has a win...
He looked way better than in the GPs. Can't deny that. Judging by MXDN results, Tomac should be worse than Anderson since one has a win and one hasn't.
You can definitely deny that. Paulin looked awful at Maggiora, especially second moto, he nearly blew it for France
crusty_xx 4/2/2017 12:45pm
4/2/2017 12:45pm
Gajser is already over a full moto in the lead of this thing. Despite riding sick in Quatar and having a bad race in Indonesia. Hope Cairoli can get back into this, looks like those are the only 2 this year with a shot at this thing.
Not sure what's wrong with Febvre or Nagl
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Motofinne 4/2/2017 12:50pm
4/2/2017 12:50pm
Put Nagl on the old gen bike he rode in 2015. Ever since the injury late that year and the change to the new bike things have been mediocre in camp Nagl.
EnvyMedia 4/2/2017 12:51pm
4/2/2017 12:51pm
RG1 wrote:
You can definitely deny that. Paulin looked awful at Maggiora, especially second moto, he nearly blew it for France
Alright if you say so. I find it hard to base it all off one MXDN. But opinions differ so.

Let's just hope he gets healthy soon.
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DP#201 4/2/2017 12:58pm
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Come on TKO, hopefully a better start and a top 5 finish in this 2nd moto.. make Denmark great again Laughing

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