2017 KTM Ticking time bombs..

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BobPA 3/28/2017 9:58am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand :whistle: KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going...
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand Whistling

KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going to talk about it. Why does that bother you so much?
I guess ya got me there

Why do you care what I do Wink
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GrapeApe 3/28/2017 10:04am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand :whistle: KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going...
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand Whistling

KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going to talk about it. Why does that bother you so much?
BobPA wrote:
I guess ya got me there

Why do you care what I do Wink
I'm not sure why, I don't even have a dog in this fight Smile Moment of internet weakness, maybe?
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BobPA 3/28/2017 10:11am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand :whistle: KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going...
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand Whistling

KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going to talk about it. Why does that bother you so much?
BobPA wrote:
I guess ya got me there

Why do you care what I do Wink
GrapeApe wrote:
I'm not sure why, I don't even have a dog in this fight Smile Moment of internet weakness, maybe?
Haha happens to me all the time.
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I really want a 2018 KTM 300xc or a Husky TX300, but after having issue after issue with my 2013 KTM 450SXf threads like this make me super nervous to pull the trigger and lay down a deposit.

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Harry Backmon 3/28/2017 10:24am
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Oh come on! What are you gonna do - put on fake beards and dress up like Arab sheiks...oops, wrong thread.
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seth505 3/28/2017 10:44am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand :whistle: KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going...
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand Whistling

KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going to talk about it. Why does that bother you so much?
I'll bite. This OP post is silly. The reed issue is valid but not major IMO. blown shocks left and right and broken springs, where at?
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Zachintosh 3/28/2017 11:16am
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1st and 2nd gear broke apart on my '16 KTM150SX on two separate occasions followed by a defective water pump seal at 12 hours that seized the top end. This all came before a friend failed to heed my warning and bought a '17 250SXF; damn thing literally exploded after only three hours. KTM did cover the repair costs but he was injured as a result of the engine failure. Nowhere is QDR more important than on MX bikes.

IMO: Modern KTMs are light, powerful, and handle great. It's time the company switches their focus in the meantime to quality and reliability.
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brimx153 3/28/2017 11:19am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand :whistle: KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going...
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand Whistling

KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going to talk about it. Why does that bother you so much?
seth505 wrote:
I'll bite. This OP post is silly. The reed issue is valid but not major IMO. blown shocks left and right and broken springs, where at?
are you saying the 2016 250sxf did nt have loads of gearbox issues
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seth505 3/28/2017 11:53am
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GrapeApe wrote:
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand :whistle: KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going...
Equally funny how the same few characters swoop in to blindly defend a brand Whistling

KTM has issues like every other brand, and people are going to talk about it. Why does that bother you so much?
seth505 wrote:
I'll bite. This OP post is silly. The reed issue is valid but not major IMO. blown shocks left and right and broken springs, where at?
brimx153 wrote:
are you saying the 2016 250sxf did nt have loads of gearbox issues
No idea, I do know my yz shredded it's gears tho.
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IceMan446 3/28/2017 11:58am
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BobPA wrote:
These threads bring out the same circle of belly achers. Show me one picture of a KTM broken frame, modern chassis of course.
SeaClassExpert wrote:
http://m.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/New-KTM-Frame-Issues,1303287


Literally a 4 second search shows you this
BobPA wrote:
Sweet, I'm happy I gave you a meaningful activity to perform today. Stank Dogs crank was aftermarket, confirmed by GuyB Shit breaks, it's just funny when...
Sweet, I'm happy I gave you a meaningful activity to perform today.

Stank Dogs crank was aftermarket, confirmed by GuyB

Shit breaks, it's just funny when it is KTM thread how the same few characters come out and take shits in the threads.
Says the dude who was shitting on Reardon for his poor results but then flipped a 180 when you found out how old he was.

Dude you whine about the most stuff on vital. Its cool, just dont complain about others when they do it.
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selous scout 3/28/2017 12:07pm
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Anyone remember Maico Breako! Rode the best open bike on the planet in 1981 but glad Maico USA was supportive and generous with some parts and advice and my Local dealer was old school and helpful to correct the issues. Customer service is always paramount in any decision on buying anything nowadays hey!!
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B-EVANS 3/28/2017 12:16pm
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In last few years I've bought
2014 sx85
2015 sxs85
2014 sxf350
2014 fe450
2015 fe450
2016 sx150
2016 fe450
2017 sxf250
2017 sx250
For me and my son. Haven't had any of these problems.

WTF am I doing wrong?


(Did buy a new 2011 350 that had lots of issues, but KTM covered everything and it was a long time ago so I don't have a bad taste from it)
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MotoX85 3/28/2017 1:05pm
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RockyRider wrote:
For starters this isn't a brand bashing post, but what the hell KTM. The amount of problems I'm seeing with the new KTM's (especially two strokes)...
For starters this isn't a brand bashing post, but what the hell KTM. The amount of problems I'm seeing with the new KTM's (especially two strokes) is just down right not acceptable. Cases breaking after 15 hrs, reeds being jacked up from the factory, shocks blowing out left and right, springs breaking right and left etc. Anyone know if they are warrantying any of these issues? I mean if you're paying 8K plus for a new bike, the last thing you wanna do if spend another G on cases that malfunctioned..
*and for those that are unaware the case issue is the idler gear post snapping off the case causing the clutch to lock up the motor. Have seen 3 already (150 SX, 250 XC & SX). Consider this your fair warning..
Awe, finally someone who has balls enough to speak the truth. How many threats have you had? Are your kids in a safe place?

Its not just the 2 strokes, the transmissions in all the bikes are a ticking time bomb, but the 2 smokes have many more problems.

The good news however, out of the numerous ones I've seen, KTM has warrantied almost everyone
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CarlinoJoeVideo 3/28/2017 1:06pm
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SeaClassExpert wrote:
There are 2 build threads of 2017 Husqarnas TC125s RIGHT NOW and the reeds are literally useless. The reeds are absolutely a serial defect and it's...
There are 2 build threads of 2017 Husqarnas TC125s RIGHT NOW and the reeds are literally useless. The reeds are absolutely a serial defect and it's unthinkable that they let them ship out like this. Seriously, go look at Jeffro's build and come back to me saying that.
MMCDan wrote:
Perhaps you and I have a different definition of serial defect. I have a 2017 KTM 250SX and rode it for 5 hours before replacing the...
Perhaps you and I have a different definition of serial defect. I have a 2017 KTM 250SX and rode it for 5 hours before replacing the stock reed cage with a VForce. My reeds had a gap just like all the others I read about on Jeffeo's thread, KTMTalk, ThumperTalk, etc. and the bike ran fine and only marginally different/better with the VForce.

How about you come back to me when you have some actual experience with the issue.

My reeds had a gap, I fixed it and rode it, didn't try to make a big deal out of it.

You seem very mad at the bike, maybe it's better to sell it and get a bike that you feel won't have as many problems.
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kiwifan 3/28/2017 1:15pm
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To be fair Japanese bikes wise, if you have a half decent dealer they help you as much as possible, yes sure they dont have a specified warranty like KTM/husky does but it is not all doom and gloom that some say when it comes to problems with Japanese bikes....except for those very few here on vital of course.

I just brought a 17 Husky TC250 ...yes I heard about problems with KTMs/Huskys but as one poster said above a small handful of problems didnt deter me away from it. Just like MXA's reported massive problem with 17 CRF450's engine failures didnt deter me either from getting a RX. So far ZERO problems with both bikes, and both bikes fucking rock by the way.

You make a judgement call...with the internet these days anyone (including motorbike magazines) can make up shit about a brand...I am sure there are some legit issues with some bikes, just like there was 5 years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago.....etc etc.
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Rockinar 3/28/2017 1:17pm
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Only thing this thread proves is that KTM has awesome customer service, stands behind its product, and takes care of its buyers with no headache.

And the OP has zero personal experience. Only "internet stories". No mention at all of the thousands and thousands of bikes sold that have zero issues. Just focus on the 4 bikes that did and starts yelling "you have been warned!".






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Motofinne 3/28/2017 1:18pm
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It's amazing to read all these comments. Since i haven't had any issues with my 16 FE 450(60 hours on it). My 2014 was also bulletproof.

The only thing that i have noticed is the 250 SXF gearboxes failing. A local MX2 rider here had 2 gearboxes that failed in 2016 but he got both covered by KTM(a known problem for fast riders on 250f KTMs).

Well i'm closing in on trading in my bike for a new 2017.

Lets be honest here. Every time you buy a bike(no matter what brand or model) there is a risk that it's going to be a bad sample. That is the risk you take when you buy a racing machine.
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David934 3/28/2017 1:51pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Nothing new here guys...
Right, its a KTM

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Johnny Ringo 3/28/2017 2:35pm
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You guys crack me up.

"I've broke 3 frames on my KTMs, but they take good care of me"

Is no different than:

"I've gotten food poisoning the last 4 times I've eaten at Chipotle, but their customer service is top notch"

Stockholm Syndrome to the max
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brocsdad 3/28/2017 2:53pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
KTM might have one off issues however they stand behind their product. Some other brands not so much. I will buy a ktm in a heartbeat...
KTM might have one off issues however they stand behind their product. Some other brands not so much. I will buy a ktm in a heartbeat if it came with cone valve forks.
It does no good to stand behind the product if you do not have parts. Riders were loosing tranny's around here and KTM is out of transmission parts.

I sold my sons KTM 125 and went to Yamaha.
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Dtat720 3/28/2017 3:38pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
KTM might have one off issues however they stand behind their product. Some other brands not so much. I will buy a ktm in a heartbeat...
KTM might have one off issues however they stand behind their product. Some other brands not so much. I will buy a ktm in a heartbeat if it came with cone valve forks.
brocsdad wrote:
It does no good to stand behind the product if you do not have parts. Riders were loosing tranny's around here and KTM is out of...
It does no good to stand behind the product if you do not have parts. Riders were loosing tranny's around here and KTM is out of transmission parts.

I sold my sons KTM 125 and went to Yamaha.
Exactly..... guys waiting MONTHS for tranny fixes. Awesome bike. To look at. Several guys went back to yz's in my area because of it. Didnt matter that KTM paid for it all to be fixed. They were missing races due to shitbox parts from the factory. About the only KTM's we have in my area now are FE's ridden by vets, and thats maybe 3 or 4. And 50's and 65's. everyone else who hopped on the KTM wagon a few years ago has gone back to kawi or yamaha and a few new honda riders.
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BobPA 3/28/2017 3:44pm
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Says the dude who was shitting on Reardon for his poor results but then flipped a 180 when you found out how old he was. Dude...
Says the dude who was shitting on Reardon for his poor results but then flipped a 180 when you found out how old he was.

Dude you whine about the most stuff on vital. Its cool, just dont complain about others when they do it.
I was "shitting" on Reardon because I thought he was a young guy who was trying to skip out on the nationals because he did not want to put in the work. It turns out my assumption was wrong and I should have been more informed before making my initial statement. People are allowed to change their minds.

Please accept my apology
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Hcallz5 3/28/2017 3:51pm
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Makes you wonder where they cut all the weight from huh. My old man bought a 16' 450 and learned that you can't big bore (for a snow bike) the 16-17 bikes like you can the 13-15 because the cylinder walls are thinner. Makes me glad I got the 14 Husky instead of holding out and paying more for a newer model. Although my old mans 16 450 sx has a big bore kit and has not skipped a beat.......yet.
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Can we start with some factual info on all the broken cases or blown shocks? Johnny, who has broken 3 frames? I'll answer that, probably no one.

Any other words of wisdom from internet mechanics?

Actually, this is a bashfest at this point, I'll see myself out Grinning
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305FC250 3/28/2017 4:17pm
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So can anyone prove that these issues have affected a significant portion of sold units? Or are we all going to just continue bringing up personal experiences as if seeing a friends uncles sons new bike blow up with 3 hours on it somehow speaks for the tens of thousands of bikes sold by KTM/Husky?
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MMCDan 3/28/2017 4:19pm
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
My reeds had a gap, I fixed it and rode it, didn't try to make a big deal out of it. You seem very mad at...
My reeds had a gap, I fixed it and rode it, didn't try to make a big deal out of it.

You seem very mad at the bike, maybe it's better to sell it and get a bike that you feel won't have as many problems.
Not sure where you got the impression I am mad at the bike. I have three 2017 KTM dirt bikes in my garage and consider them to be some of the best machines I have ever owned. Perfect? No. Perfect for me? Pretty darn close.
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RockyRider 3/28/2017 8:19pm
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Maybe I am a little naive, or maybe I hold KTM to a higher standard than other manufacturers.. But when you spend the extra $$ to but "quality" and this happens 17 hrs later, you get frustrated..



And to those of you calling my shocks blowing out comments as false, I can 100% assure you that at the shop I work at KTM asked us to send them the shocks that our FACTORY SUPPORTED rider kept blowing out so they can fix their mistakes.
GoggleFiend904 3/28/2017 8:32pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
You guys crack me up. "I've broke 3 frames on my KTMs, but they take good care of me" Is no different than: "I've gotten food...
You guys crack me up.

"I've broke 3 frames on my KTMs, but they take good care of me"

Is no different than:

"I've gotten food poisoning the last 4 times I've eaten at Chipotle, but their customer service is top notch"

Stockholm Syndrome to the max
Pretty sure that was the yamis lol. And the dealers charge labor to replace the frame in some cases
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seth505 3/28/2017 8:33pm
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^that does suck man, are you sure it's not a more isolated issue?
The shock issue is another "factory supported" rider who is using out of the box, stock shocks?
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I blame the AMA flag guy!

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