Air forks vs. spring forks?

shaffstall721 3/22/2017 1:32pm
3/22/2017 1:32pm
I am getting a new 350 in the next few weeks. Does FC know what they are doing with the AER forks?
coastlinecascot 3/22/2017 6:39pm
3/22/2017 6:39pm
Heres an easy one to ask 10 people at the track. What does the rebound adjustment do and how can you tell if you need to adjust it. 100% wont know. Translate that to air forks and thr possibility of losing a day at the track with a blown fork seal.
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fullysicmate 3/22/2017 7:57pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Heres an easy one to ask 10 people at the track. What does the rebound adjustment do and how can you tell if you need to...
Heres an easy one to ask 10 people at the track. What does the rebound adjustment do and how can you tell if you need to adjust it. 100% wont know. Translate that to air forks and thr possibility of losing a day at the track with a blown fork seal.
It seems like your track days are spent hanging with the wrong crowd.
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tcallahan707 3/22/2017 8:00pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Heres an easy one to ask 10 people at the track. What does the rebound adjustment do and how can you tell if you need to...
Heres an easy one to ask 10 people at the track. What does the rebound adjustment do and how can you tell if you need to adjust it. 100% wont know. Translate that to air forks and thr possibility of losing a day at the track with a blown fork seal.
100% is a pretty high number. I'd go with 20%.

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kiwifan 3/22/2017 9:35pm
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Skidaddle wrote:
The first air spring most people fiddle with is a basketball, or air in their bike tires. Its not real rocket science. The problem with spring...
The first air spring most people fiddle with is a basketball, or air in their bike tires.

Its not real rocket science. The problem with spring forks is slow leakage and most just want to go ride.

If your tires are a pound or two hard or soft, its no big deal, and you have a larger volume, so a little seepage has a lesser effect.
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On a fork, a little bit of loss and its a totally different fork setting.

I hate air suspension. Not because it doesn't work, but because its not consistent without constant maintainance. I have way too many machines (12)to maintain as it is on a regular basis, not counting 7 vehicles.

Set it and forget it(for the most part) is nice.

I dumped 4 Fox Evol 3s for a full set of Walker Evans, once set, I haven't touched them all year.
Perhaps I am being a dumbass but Spring forks have slow leakages??!!
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Bruce372 3/22/2017 9:49pm
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I've never met or seen anyone that's collapsed an air fork.
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Bruce372 3/22/2017 9:51pm
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I have seen the SSS forks destroy themselves internally.

But why is that? More sss been sold.
Langhammx 3/22/2017 9:57pm
3/22/2017 9:57pm
Bruce372 wrote:
I've never met or seen anyone that's collapsed an air fork.
You watch Roczen @ Glen Helen last year ? Shocked
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Bruce372 3/22/2017 10:09pm
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Bruce372 wrote:
I've never met or seen anyone that's collapsed an air fork.
Langhammx wrote:
You watch Roczen @ Glen Helen last year ? Shocked
I've seen pictures and I saw that on the telly, but I've never seen it in person. That's all I am saying. But I have seen plenty of bikes, so I am not sure it's worth all the anxiety.
Aceofspades 3/23/2017 12:16am
3/23/2017 12:16am
Skidaddle wrote:
I have no problem with someone not understanding something. He's a self proclaimed know it all. That's the difference. That response is like Jody saying he...
I have no problem with someone not understanding something.
He's a self proclaimed know it all. That's the difference.

That response is like Jody saying he doesn't understand the effect of adding 1 tooth.
Savvy?
Youre calling someone else a know it all? Holy shit.
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MXVet261 3/23/2017 4:24am
3/23/2017 4:24am Edited Date/Time 3/23/2017 4:29am
I do not have a bike with air forks, however I have a few friends that do.

One thing I noticed that I never even thought of before was how clean the fork oil stays without the metal spring. I changed fork oil for a friend in July of last year before he raced LL, and I just changed it again for him a few weeks ago.

When I poured the "used" fork oil out of the forks it was the cleanest used oil I've ever seen come out of suspension.

coastlinecascot 3/23/2017 5:38am
3/23/2017 5:38am
Ive personally seen two different sets of air forks collapse at the track. One at perris the other milestone. The perris incident was while he was out on the track. Milestone was in the pits. Thr milestone was a set of WP.
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Titan1 3/23/2017 10:12am
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Bruce372 wrote:
I've never met or seen anyone that's collapsed an air fork.
As I understand it, at least on the showa air forks on my 15 Kawi, it's impossible to collapse the fork (well not impossible, but very very very difficult) because the inner chamber (where the air pressure actually is) is completely contained...the out chamber, which is what you'd break riding...has a very small amount of air in it (I run 4 psi in my outer chamber) so even if that outer seal breaks, the fork still wouldn't collapse.

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